First look at the E-P5

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In reply to Acrill, Apr 25, 2013

Very pretty front side, but all of the secret sauce is on the back.  I'm rooting for a tilt lcd, like the one in the em5.

It's rumored they'll introduce a new evf, with an integrated flash... the VF3 .

I'm all set for lenses, so I'm hoping they'll be a body-only option.

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Uncle Frank wrote:

Very pretty front side, but all of the secret sauce is on the back.  I'm rooting for a tilt lcd, like the one in the em5.

It's rumored they'll introduce a new evf, with an integrated flash... the VF3 .

I'm all set for lenses, so I'm hoping they'll be a body-only option.

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VF3 with an integrated flash?

That would be quite challenging in design!

Couldn't wait to check it out!

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In reply to Acrill, Apr 25, 2013

I can't imagine that the VF-2 won't work on it. I am sure there is a new view finder coming because Oly is going to have an upgraded VF-3 using the new Epson panels that were announced a few months back. That means more likely than not we'll see a roughly 2mp VF-3 and that is also likely to be the same panel that makes it's way in to the OM-D E-M6 this fall (if the rumors for its announcement hold).

Maybe the VF-3 will be slightly smaller dimensions also (not the panel size, but the other bits of it)?

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Why a E-P5 and an E-PL6?
In reply to Acrill, Apr 25, 2013

I still find this confusing.  The E-P5 design looks good to me though without an articulating LCD it would not be very useful to me.

So, why a E-P5 and E-PL6 having such similar IQ etc.  Why not just an E-PL6.  What is in the E-P5 design that would make one pick that over the E-PL6?

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Re: Why a E-P5 and an E-PL6?
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For the E-P3 vs. the E-PL3, the reasons where the better LCD, touchscreen, more button controls and built-in flash. It was prettier too.
It's still early, but it looks like the same applies to the E-P5 vs. E-PL6, save for the touchscreen.

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Re: Why a E-P5 and an E-PL6?
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4thnebula wrote:

I still find this confusing.  The E-P5 design looks good to me though without an articulating LCD it would not be very useful to me.

So, why a E-P5 and E-PL6 having such similar IQ etc.  Why not just an E-PL6.  What is in the E-P5 design that would make one pick that over the E-PL6?

I guess we will have to wait fr more leaks are the actual anouncements.  I still find it difficult to see how the upcoming  E-PL6 and E-P5 and the existing cameras like the E-M5 differentiate themselves from each other.  No real leaks for the E-PL6 yet, except that it will be a minor upgrade.  Maybe it gets wifi or maybe the new optional EVF needs a new accessory port and the E-PL6 gets the new accessory port.  Basically all we know about the E-P5 is that it looks almost like the E-P3, it has a control dial around the shutter button, it has wifi, it AF faster, and that it does not have an built-in evf but does take the new optional evf.

So I am guessing there will be a lot more leaks in the coming two weeks.

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Re: Why a E-P5 and an E-PL6?
In reply to bluevellet, Apr 25, 2013

Time to merge these two cameras.

With the OMD sitting at $999 I can't think why anyone would want to pay more for the kudge of a solution an optional VF offers.

Put the two dials on the EPL series and end the EP series.
The EP's are too expensive for what they are, and don't offer any different functionality from the OMD.

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Re: Why a E-P5 and an E-PL6?
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Doug Brown wrote:

Time to merge these two cameras.

With the OMD sitting at $999 I can't think why anyone would want to pay more for the kudge of a solution an optional VF offers.

Put the two dials on the EPL series and end the EP series.
The EP's are too expensive for what they are, and don't offer any different functionality from the OMD.

Douglas Brown

I totally agree with you based on the limited leaks we have concerning the upcoming E-P5.  I was really hoping for a built-in EVF, but just maybe Olympus will had enough other stuff to make it different enough to fit between the E-PL6 and the E-M5.  Faster AF is a nice plus and WIFI could be nice for some people.  Still not enough but there could be more.

Right now it makes me a little excited about the E-M6.

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Re: First look at the E-P5
In reply to Acrill, Apr 25, 2013

Beautiful camera, until you stick an EVF on top, then you're back in 'old humpy's' neighborhood. Why no new sensor? Old(er) technology with a high price tag seems like a missed opportunity.

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andyrox wrote:

ARB1 wrote:

Hen3ry wrote:

Hen3ry wrote:

I'll wait and see in a couple of weeks how accurate the rumor is. Since it is so close, it’s not worth discussing.

Actually, I'll go further. Very nice looking retro cam (designed without looking fake like the EM5) but if there's no built-in EVF it looks like it'll be good-bye Oly, it’s been nice to know you.

If it had and EVF I'd be on the preorder list as soon as it was available.  With no EVF the Fujifilm X-E1 is still in my shopping cart.

I wonder why Oly don't go for the built-in EVF like Nex6/7 or X-E1?

Exactly. Unless there is  something really radical to the notion of a new accessory EVF that makes sense, and the price of the package is within reason, and the IBIS is the same as the EM5 (I would love that; I've seen on this forum so many justifications of the faux pentaprism housing of the EM5 which seem ridiculous), and …

Then I will be heading G6-wards.

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Goob13 wrote:

Beautiful camera, until you stick an EVF on top, then you're back in 'old humpy's' neighborhood.

Yep. Maybe it will fit on the end!

Why no new sensor? Old(er) technology with a high price tag seems like a missed opportunity.

Say what? The current Oly sensor is the best in the world and you want a new one? Come on, Gooby, be reasonable!

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Re: First look at the E-P5
In reply to Uncle Frank, Apr 25, 2013

Uncle Frank wrote:

I'm rooting for a tilt lcd, like the one in the em5.

The E-PL5 already has this.

I'm having a hard time imagining what features(costing hundreds of dollars) can distinguish the EP5 from the P5L and PM2

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With that lens all you'd need is a 35mm OVF and you are set.

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alfredo_tomato wrote:

With that lens all you'd need is a 35mm OVF and you are set.

True, but this is true for any PEN.

And maybe that is the main value proposition of this camera - the 17mm 1.8 kit lens. If the price is calculated correctly it may be cheaper to by this camera as a kit than to buy the 17mm and an EPM2 or EPL5 separately.

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Hen3ry wrote:

Unless there is  something really radical to the notion of a new accessory EVF that makes sense

I suspect it will simply be a higher-spec viewfinder, nothing radical. Maybe the new Epson that has been in the news?

It will almost certainly carry a higher price tag than the VF2 or VF3.

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Faster autofocus? Think PDAF like Nikon 1. Think consumer testbed for standard 4/3 lenses.

Wishful thinking? Probably.

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Re: Why a E-P5 and an E-PL6?
In reply to DLBlack, Apr 26, 2013

It's a handsome thing, just based on this one view, perhaps a bit of Fuji dna grafted to the traditional design. It seems more purposeful, more '60s rangefinderish.

And yes, i'm having difficulty figuring where it fits within the Pen/OMD universe at an ambitious pricepoint. $750 and I get it; $1000 and I don't. However, if it brings some new capabilities to the table, then we can talk. Otherwise I wish them well and await son-of-E-M5.

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andyrox wrote:

I wonder why Oly don't go for the built-in EVF like Nex6/7 or X-E1?

The NEX 6 sells for $899 with a 2.3M dot OLED viewfinder, peaking AF display, 3" tilt LCD and 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 retractable power zoom lens.   I'm not a Sony fan (own an E-M5), but a compelling featureset for the price in a rangefinder style body.

Given the lack of an EVF, the only new things the E-P5 may bring to the party would be 5-axis IBIS and perhaps weathersealing (my guess, unlikely).  Based on the E-P3's intro price of $899 with a pedestrian kit zoom, Olympus will likely price it with same at a similar price.

Seems pretty much a boutique camera to me, but maybe they have something up their sleeve, who knows.
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sderdiarian wrote:

andyrox wrote:

I wonder why Oly don't go for the built-in EVF like Nex6/7 or X-E1?

The NEX 6 sells for $899 with a 2.3M dot OLED viewfinder, peaking AF display, 3" tilt LCD and 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 retractable power zoom lens.   I'm not a Sony fan (own an E-M5), but a compelling featureset for the price in a rangefinder style body.

Given the lack of an EVF, the only new things the E-P5 may bring to the party would be 5-axis IBIS and perhaps weathersealing (my guess, unlikely).  Based on the E-P3's intro price of $899 with a pedestrian kit zoom, Olympus will likely price it with same at a similar price.

Seems pretty much a boutique camera to me, but maybe they have something up their sleeve, who knows.
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The E-P2 was sold for $1100 with the 14-42 and the VF2.

The E-P5 should be introduced at the same price point, including the 17/1.8 and the VF3. If it's priced any higher, then no 5 axis or weather sealing would rescue it.

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Goob13 wrote:

Beautiful camera, until you stick an EVF on top, then you're back in 'old humpy's' neighborhood. Why no new sensor? Old(er) technology with a high price tag seems like a missed opportunity.

Disagree!

It looks like old (circa 1950) rangefinder. I do not see any beauty, camera looks like a cheap kid's toy. Humpy looks quite modern even today.

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