Modern day answer to the Finepix F30?

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Robert Fox
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Modern day answer to the Finepix F30?
Apr 22, 2013

Hello all!

I have a Finepix F30 point and shoot to compliment my DSLR (Canon 20D still) - The Finepix has never let me down, and I am still amazed at how good it performs in low light, how fast it is to use (turn on and off) - and especially the battery life.  The quality of the pictures are excellent considering it's a Point and Shoot . . .

When I bough it at the time, it was "the" compact camera for DSLR users to carry around.

Any suggestions on a modern day equivalent (a suggested compact camera for DSLR users as a complimentary camera) -  High ISO performance is important to me as well as quick startup & shutdown - and long battery.

Any comments welcome!  Cheers-

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In reply to Robert Fox, Apr 22, 2013

I loved my F31fd ... if you are going Fuji then you should consider the XF1 ... I just got one and it is a neat little camera with great features and IQ. It is slightly bigger than the F30 but still pocketable and is better in nearly every way. Just my 2 cents having shot a majority of Fuji 'larger sensor' P&S cams over the years.

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Robert Fox wrote:

Hello all!

I have a Finepix F30 point and shoot to compliment my DSLR (Canon 20D still) - The Finepix has never let me down, and I am still amazed at how good it performs in low light, how fast it is to use (turn on and off) - and especially the battery life.  The quality of the pictures are excellent considering it's a Point and Shoot . . .

When I bough it at the time, it was "the" compact camera for DSLR users to carry around.

Any suggestions on a modern day equivalent (a suggested compact camera for DSLR users as a complimentary camera) -  High ISO performance is important to me as well as quick startup & shutdown - and long battery.

Any comments welcome!  Cheers-

Unfortunately, there is no modern day equivalent to F30 and F31, they are unique in the history of digicams with the combination of low light ability, size, battery life and fast startup. Something has to give, if it is size, the great camera is Canon G15, if it is battery life (quite poor), the good modern day equivalent is Canon S110 or S100, if it is low light ability and battery life, then any of the modern Fuji F series superzooms will be OK (but you do get long zoom and some other features). It is best to keep the F30 no matter what you buy, so you can fall back to the good old F30 if you don't like the modern (half) alternatives. If you like to view images at 100%, almost any of the modern small digicams will have you cringe after the F30 pixel level quality at ISO 400 and less.

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Robert Fox wrote:

Hello all!

I have a Finepix F30 point and shoot to compliment my DSLR (Canon 20D still) - The Finepix has never let me down, and I am still amazed at how good it performs in low light, how fast it is to use (turn on and off) - and especially the battery life.  The quality of the pictures are excellent considering it's a Point and Shoot . . .

When I bough it at the time, it was "the" compact camera for DSLR users to carry around.

Any suggestions on a modern day equivalent (a suggested compact camera for DSLR users as a complimentary camera) -  High ISO performance is important to me as well as quick startup & shutdown - and long battery.

Any comments welcome!  Cheers-

Surely the X20

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In reply to Robert Fox, Apr 23, 2013

Overpriced Pocket P&S with outstanding IQ at all ISOs for the size like the F30/31 were - RX100 of course . stuff like the X10 are too big for that category

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In reply to Robert Fox, Apr 23, 2013

The Sony RX100 is the best current semi-equivalent, seconded by the cheaper Fuji XF1. They both have larger sensors than other cameras in their size brackets which gives them an advantage.

Long battery life is a feature that has been disappearing from compact cameras with the rush to larger, higher resolution LCDs. I don't know about the XF1 but the RX100 isn't the fastest to start up although its actual focus speed is swift.

"The" dSLR companion compact is probably the Fuji X100s with its APS-C sensor. There're a number of similar large sensor compacts from other brands now but are even more niche.

The F30 still performs fairly well so unless you don't mind spending lots of money it should be good for a while yet.

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If my own experience is any judge, it must be the X10.  It was my next Fuji after the F30.  They are not the same, especially in size, but in my mind they are equal in spirit.

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I like how the Olym XZ-2 handles a lot, and you might find it worthwhile to try it out.  It has very flexible menu customization, plus the best implementation of the 'round the lens' dial.  It has good, but is not the best, for High ISO situations though.

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As much as I like my F30, I have to say that cameras like the Canon S90 and onwards are better on a number of levels.  Wider lens, faster aperture, better movie mode, even faster to start and focus, not to mention smaller.  The F30 would quickly mush up above ISO 400, whereas the Canon S90 would not.

Back in the F30 days, any pocket camera that went above ISO 800 was a miracle, and I think a lot of us were wowed by the numbers rather than the performance.  ISO 1600 on the F30 is smeary mush, and with no raw output, it couldn't be recovered.

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Robert Fox wrote:

I have a Finepix F30 point and shoot to compliment my DSLR (Canon 20D still) - The Finepix has never let me down, and I am still amazed at how good it performs in low light, how fast it is to use (turn on and off) - and especially the battery life.  The quality of the pictures are excellent considering it's a Point and Shoot . . .

Any suggestions on a modern day equivalent (a suggested compact camera for DSLR users as a complimentary camera) -  High ISO performance is important to me as well as quick startup & shutdown - and long battery.

After half a century shooting with film SLRs (and  exclusively with a collection of prime lenses), the Fujifilm F30 was, for me:

  • My first digital camera; 
  • My first pocketable camera; and 
  • My first chance to use a zoom lens of any kind

The F30 served me well for 3-1/2 years, when I purchased an F70EXR, which I used alongside the F30 for six months until I became fully convinced that it was an upgrade to the F30, which I then sold.

Now, having recently purchased a Fujifilm XF1 (keeping the F70EXR for the nonce), I find it shares a 2013 version of all of the qualities that impelled me to purchase of the F30 back in 2006:

  • A very large sensor for a pocketable camera (the X10/X20 are nice, but my pockets are not that large) 
  • A best-in-class lens (the F30's lens suffered significant purple fringing in strong contrast backlit situations, but otherwise ran circles around the output of my friends' Sony and Panasonic cameras) 
  • Excellent battery life -- IF  the lens is fully retracted (camera turned off, not just put in standby) when the camera is not in active use.
  • Still pocketable 
  • Manual (sort of) controls when desired

Until shortly before I purchased it, I had assumed that the 25-100 equivalent lens in the XF1 is the same lens as that used in the X10 and X20, just tweaked a but to move it even closer to the sensor and allow it to retract fully.  I was wrong:  the XF1 lens appears to be better in every way, with fewer elements in fewer groups, yet with more aspheric elements than the X10/X20 lens and more extra low dispersion glass elements than the X10/X20 lens, and an enhanced version of the Fujinon Super EBC lens coating applied to all 14 element surfaces.  I wish that it could hold to wider apertures at longer focal lengths as the X10/X20 lens does, but that is the price that one must pay, I guess.

There is no aspect of performance in which the XF1 does not beat the F30 -- usually by a very wide margin.  It is a worthy successor.

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