Using a D7100 in AUTO mode???

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mistermejia
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In reply to Mako2011, Apr 22, 2013

Mako2011 wrote:

mistermejia wrote:

 And i though you guys were "professionals".

A very poor assumption on your part and in fact the wrong forum.  You want to be here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/1014

Ask there and see if they agree. Some might, many might not I know a well respected photo journalist who makes way more money shooting photographs than I ever will. He only uses a lower end consumer DSLR's for weight reasons he losses less money when they get broke.  He only shoots "full green auto".  Many times he just raises the camera over his head and shoots so he can keep his head well behind the sand bags or wall he's crouched behind or get his camera above the crowd.  Auto can be a valid method of choice...especially when you have the PP skill to use it well.

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"A very poor assumption on your part and in fact the wrong forum".

Bingo!  That's exactly my point Mako, that's exactly my point. Yet some people are so disrespectful to others.  Oh well, some people's kids!

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In reply to mistermejia, Apr 22, 2013

mistermejia wrote:

Mako2011 wrote:

mistermejia wrote:

 And i though you guys were "professionals".

A very poor assumption on your part and in fact the wrong forum.  You want to be here:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/1014

Ask there and see if they agree. Some might, many might not I know a well respected photo journalist who makes way more money shooting photographs than I ever will. He only uses a lower end consumer DSLR's for weight reasons he losses less money when they get broke.  He only shoots "full green auto".  Many times he just raises the camera over his head and shoots so he can keep his head well behind the sand bags or wall he's crouched behind or get his camera above the crowd.  Auto can be a valid method of choice...especially when you have the PP skill to use it well.

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"A very poor assumption on your part and in fact the wrong forum".

Bingo!  That's exactly my point Mako, that's exactly my point. Yet some people are so disrespectful to others.  Oh well, some people's kids!

Yep...but fun to hang here than there

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Re: Using a D7100 in AUTO mode???
In reply to mistermejia, Apr 23, 2013

mistermejia wrote:

I had a very interesting experience a couple hours ago.  A gentleman came to buy my Nikon 16-85 that i was selling, young guy in his 20's.  The guy sold his D3100 and upgraded to the D7100.  HUGE upgrade indeed.  I asked him how he liked it, he said he hasn't used it since he just bought it a couple days ago and he had no lens.  He looked very excited, during the conversation i asked him how he shoots, if in manual mode or what, and he said in full auto, just like with his D3100.  So right away i got the "feeling" that this camera was way out of his league, and not with a mean intent but to help him instead, i started asking him if he knows how to change the AF settings, metering, apperture, how to set ISO, and he basically said, NO.  So i was right.

I started giving him some tips as to what some of the basic functions are, for example the location of the hidded button to change to AF-A, AF-S, AF-C.  I also told him that if nesessary, he might have to test the lens i was selling him and he might possibly have to do AF Fine Tuning later on, he asked what that was and how to do it, so i showed him.  At the end the gentleman got REALLY quiet and it looked like his jaw just dropped from being overwhelmed and the guy had no idea of what i was talking about.  After i felt bad and thought that maybe i shouldn't have told him anything.  Anyways, that guy is more lucky, he has a D7100 and i don't

The point is simple, there are TONS of folks out there that think that the latest high end camera will do miracles or that the camera WILL take awesome photos because it is the "latest technology".  Clearly there are lots of people using this type of cameras in AUTO mode and have no clue what  A, S, and M does, not to mention other functions.  What a waste of money and what a waste of a camera.  Heck, even a D5100 with its capabilities using it only in Auto is kind of a awaste of a camera, not to mention money.

Lots of people here ask "should i jump to D7000/D7100/D600?"  It is clear that most people do not need massive high MP, but another thing folks should consider is how they operate a camera and IF they are going to continue shooting that way, or change those ways and go fully manual to take full advantage of what all modern and "older" cameras can do.

I sold a D90 body to a guy once.  Actually, his parents bought it for him and they were present with the cash as he received his "new" camera.  He put on a lens he had, flipped it to full "Auto"---I said, whoa, wait a minute, if you're gonna test this body on Auto all bets are off, I have no advice for you, I've never shot on Auto.  He pressed the shutter, the flash popped up (of course, it's on Auto!) and he fired away.

All his test shots looked great, money changed hands and they strolled out the door.

Sold a D7000 to a guy, along with a 35mm f/1.8.  He came in, checked it out, immediately went into Live view (I exclaimed, whoa, wait a minute, I've never used Live view, I have no advice for you) then he commenced taking videos (Whoa, I exclaimed, I've never taken a video with this camera, I have no .... well ... you know ...).  Turns out he only wanted the D7000 to take videos, has never taken stills.  So, yeah, every buyer is different with different needs.

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In reply to toomanycanons, Apr 23, 2013

Very well said, toomanycanons.  There are people who would like help or advice but it is good to wait for an opening where they ask for it.  I met a young lady at a zoo shoot.  She complained that her D5100 was not a good camera and she was going to get a different system.  I asked her why.  She said it just did not focus well.  She let me look at her settings.   It turned out she was in full auto focus.  I showed her how to select af-s, single point and off she went happy with her camera able to get the eagle nice and clear.  It turned out she took a photography course where the basic settings of a dslr were never discussed.  She got a good grade but had no handle on her camera.  I am not sure I would have opened the eyes of the op's D7100 owner without his seeking some improvement.  Perhaps to make him so unhappy he might hand it to me.

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Re: Using a D7100 in AUTO mode???
In reply to mistermejia, Apr 23, 2013

I just asked my lawyer about this case and he is agreed.

Nobody permitted officially to use Nikon D7100 in full auto mode, since Nikon claims D7100 as 'Top of the line' camera.

But when Nikon gives to public D400 as top of the line, you'll permitted freely use 'Auto' and 'Dumb' modes on D7100, because it will become no top camera anymore.

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It can get worse: A D800 on Auto!
In reply to krikman, Apr 23, 2013

I can honestly say that I never used auto on a digital camera. But, that's only because I started in digital photography with 35mm film in my mind.

And, in fact, I myself used my ancient Minolta Dynax 700si in auto too! Ridicious off course. It was one of the best analog bodies of that time. But i've used it for almost 2 years in P mode! Looking back on that time I can say it didn't get me started the right way in photography. I was bored and lost my interest in taking photo's. I even sold my complete kit.

Years later, I bought a manual focus Pentax Super A with a bunch of prime lenses. That really got me started! It was the best decision ever. And since that time, i haven't touched a auto or creative auto setting again!

A couple weeks ago a father of a friend of mine bought a Nikon D800. He even calls himself a pro. But he doesn't understand a damn thing about the camera. He cannot understand why his exposure is off all the time. His son (my friend) has to set his camera every time before going on a shoot.

Last weekend we went together. He didn't make one single photograph because he was annoyed that the D800 was shooting everything at iso 6400! Yes, you guessed it right. It was on auto! I made hunderds of great shots that day using my D7100 to it's full potential.

This post is not troll intended. But I think there is something right regarding the topicstarter's opinion about auto mode usage. I wouldn't think about using auto on a d7100. The (pro) guy I mentioned had a Nikon D70 before and was really happy with it. Now he is wowed by the photos me and my friend can produce with his d800, and he is losing the fun of taking pictures himself because his camera is too advanced for his liking.

(sorry for my bad english.. )

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