The goal - First, grab your attention. . .

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Bob Tullis
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The goal - First, grab your attention. . .
Apr 21, 2013

. . . capture your eye so to speak, then guide it about while keeping it on a leash so it doesn't leave the frame.

It doesn't always work, but that's the goal, isn't it?

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In reply to Bob Tullis, Apr 21, 2013

They all worked for me except in the narrow walkway/footbridge situations where you do need a person there, walking away is fine, to "show the purpose" of the structure.

OK that's just drawing on the mess of notes that I accumulated once after listening to many camera club judge comments over the years - usually criticising my "gems"

Anyway, I always like seeing your shots, saves me a trip to NY.

Regards...... Guy

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Re: The goal - First, grab your attention. . .
In reply to Bob Tullis, Apr 21, 2013

Worked for me Bob. I was drawn in to each shot and given plenty of places to keep looking. Well done!

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In reply to Guy Parsons, Apr 22, 2013

Guy Parsons wrote:

They all worked for me except in the narrow walkway/footbridge situations where you do need a person there, walking away is fine, to "show the purpose" of the structure.

For me, the first one is a little disappointing. Go two steps closer and slightly left so you get a pile filling that empty space in the bottom righthand corner? And also get the foot of the bridge upright clear of the piles? Fall into the water in the process and die of some foul pollution? 

OK that's just drawing on the mess of notes that I accumulated once after listening to many camera club judge comments over the years - usually criticising my "gems"

That's a good idea. When my daughter was younger, I used to offer treats in exchange for her being the human figure in such situations.

Bob, did you take any off center a bit? I tend to prefer that these days -- makes the picture more complex yet retains the essential symmetry in the eye of the beholder.

Anyway, I always like seeing your shots, saves me a trip to NY.

Ditto about like your work, Bob, if envy and generally unfulfilled promises to myself to lift my game by trying a couple of things like yours can be translated to "like"! 

In this group, the killer shot for me is the last one. In our shared culture, the bottom right is the "natural" exit point for the eye -- but in that pic, the eye gets there and is forcefully directed back up to the top again by the curved steps, then the bridge drags us through the pic again. Excellent!

Not having to visit NY, Guy, leaves you free to squander your time and treasure one letter further along in the alphabet -- NZ. 

Cheers, geoff

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Re: The goal - First, grab your attention. . .
In reply to Hen3ry, Apr 22, 2013

Some really terrific compositions. Good work as usual.

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In reply to Bob Tullis, Apr 22, 2013

Gotta say, Bob, I love your City work....I hope you are showing and selling it because it really is good stuff.

-J

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Ditto. Would love to see them in colour though

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Beautiful stuff. Can you discuss the postprocessing you did a little?

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Amazing photos

I hate black and white and yet I was absolutly astounded by these

Something to aspire to when I'm learning about how to take nice photos

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Guy Parsons wrote:

They all worked for me except in the narrow walkway/footbridge situations where you do need a person there, walking away is fine, to "show the purpose" of the structure.

OK that's just drawing on the mess of notes that I accumulated once after listening to many camera club judge comments over the years - usually criticising my "gems"

Interesting collection of observations.  The last one is particularly spot on - and for that I'm particularly remiss.

Anyway, I always like seeing your shots, saves me a trip to NY.

[guffaw!]  Priceless!

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This one especially has the look of a graphic novel, a scene out of the movie "Sin City" perhaps.

Nice B&W series, thanks for sharing that.

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Hen3ry wrote:

Guy Parsons wrote:

They all worked for me except in the narrow walkway/footbridge situations where you do need a person there, walking away is fine, to "show the purpose" of the structure.

For me, the first one is a little disappointing. Go two steps closer and slightly left so you get a pile filling that empty space in the bottom righthand corner? And also get the foot of the bridge upright clear of the piles? Fall into the water in the process and die of some foul pollution? 

You're right, but the best I could do there is get 4 bridge towers in the scene.  I had to rely on the railing for the Ultra Pod, where if I had the tripod I could have raised the camera to deal better with the piles.

OK that's just drawing on the mess of notes that I accumulated once after listening to many camera club judge comments over the years - usually criticising my "gems"

That's a good idea. When my daughter was younger, I used to offer treats in exchange for her being the human figure in such situations.

Bob, did you take any off center a bit? I tend to prefer that these days -- makes the picture more complex yet retains the essential symmetry in the eye of the beholder.

I usually try to avoid centering, so where it is usually is a conscious decision.  In the field I often ask myself "Why?" when I find I'm centering a horizon or subject; I shoot a little wide often, and very often correct for perspective, and along with that goes a generosity to crop in post for for another assessment.  With those strong perspective lines it depends on the surrounding supporting features.

Anyway, I always like seeing your shots, saves me a trip to NY.

Ditto about like your work, Bob, if envy and generally unfulfilled promises to myself to lift my game by trying a couple of things like yours can be translated to "like"! 

I appreciate that.  I feel the same, it's the inspiration of others work that drives me to strive for more from myself.  

In this group, the killer shot for me is the last one. In our shared culture, the bottom right is the "natural" exit point for the eye -- but in that pic, the eye gets there and is forcefully directed back up to the top again by the curved steps, then the bridge drags us through the pic again. Excellent!

Not having to visit NY, Guy, leaves you free to squander your time and treasure one letter further along in the alphabet -- NZ. 

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In reply to Bob Tullis, Apr 22, 2013

They are all good, but I especially liked the last 2 in the series.  The fact that the moving car is blurred adds to the allure of the 2nd to last -- it makes it impossible to peg the date when the image was taken. That, together with the BW treatment, gives it an ageless quality.

The composition of the last one is wonderful.

Keep it up!

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For me the absence of of a human allowed my eye to settle on that black window in the distance.

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In reply to Bob Tullis, Apr 22, 2013

Lovely Bob.  I just posted on another thread about the role of the Oly Pen-F in NY street photography in the mid-20th century and here you post shots that remind me of that era.  Except for two important issues 1.ability to shoot night shots without tripod etc. and 2.  no spending a couple of days in a stinkin' darkroom...you could be a reincarnation of those Time/Life photographers....
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In reply to Bob Tullis, Apr 22, 2013

Bob Tullis wrote:

. . . capture your eye so to speak, then guide it about while keeping it on a leash so it doesn't leave the frame.

Next time when I want to illustrate the concept of leading lines (and vanishing points) to someone, I'll use this thread for its fine examples.

It doesn't always work, but that's the goal, isn't it?

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jalywol wrote:

Gotta say, Bob, I love your City work....I hope you are showing and selling it because it really is good stuff.

Yea, Janet. . . I have to get around to that.  [g]

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Neurad1 wrote:

Beautiful stuff. Can you discuss the postprocessing you did a little?

Basically, start out with the RAW in LR to correct for any  CA/fringing, tweak WB/colors and work on the tonality, with a mild (?) application of NR and sharpening.   The tonality often runs like this - pull down whites while keeping the white point high, raise Shadows while maintaining the black point.

Actually, I've been taking the mono JPGs and working on them first (a good exposure at ISO 3200 can be surprisingly work-able).   If needed I'd turn to the RAW as described and then feed it to Silver Efex Pro.  After the basics, then an overall view of the tones is examined to see if portions of what's within the frame are distractingly bright or dark (say, the left side of the exposure is naturally brighter than the right, to try to insure that's not a distraction).   If this is the case, sometimes it's obvious at the onset, at others it reveals itself when I add the final vignetting touch.

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highwave wrote:

Amazing photos

I hate black and white and yet I was absolutly astounded by these

That's awfully flattering, thank you.  

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