>>> Street Photography eXchange #41 <<<

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Re: >>> Street Photography eXchange #41 <<<
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A couple old and one new

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This is the one I like, and I would have liked to see the face of the childs opponent. Is it a tight crop or you've just decided to center on the child?

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Yes. the teacher is th Chess Master famous in Harvard Square for any familiar with it. I was concentrating on the boy.

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is that they are a gimmick.   They are applied mechanically, without reference to the content of the photo and what you are trying to communicate as an artist.   They draw attention to themselves, while they do nothing to strengthen what you are trying to communicate.   The border you chose is particularly toxic because it has, in some cases, more detail than much of your images.   So they steal attention away from the image, and also draw attention to the fact that you are crushing  your blacks.

There are many other gimmicks, and they all have the same general kind of problems.

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Re: >>> Street Photography eXchange #41 <<<
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xtoph wrote:

bosjohn21 wrote:

beautiful expression and concentration on the center of interest. i too would have liked a wider frame to include some of the player at left, i think. not sure that would have worked. but i do feel the absence of his head/profile.

I don't agree.  That would be a different photograph, with a different meaning.

it certainly would. it would have been a different approach to the subject. comments like this (mine) are not always useful or even relevant; sometimes they amount to nothing more than 'i take different photos than you do' and then there is little contributed. but, i think i am being pretty objective in my observation that the face beneath the visor is liable to feel kind of arbitrarily cropped out. it still may be of little use to john, though.

This one puts me in mind of a quote from the biologist Thomas Henry Huxley, an early supporter of evolution:

"The chess-board is the world; the pieces are the phenomena of the universe; the rules of the game are what we call the laws of Nature. The player on the other side is hidden from us. We know that his play is always fair, just and patient. But also we know, to our cost, that he never overlooks a mistake, or makes the smallest allowance for ignorance."

an interesting quote. if we were to carry out that logic, then the boy's face should be cropped out, and the player from our pov included, no?

i guess to me the main reason i would like to see the face at left here is actually because the person in the bg becomes too dominant within the frame as it is, for how i see the photo.

Note also that White's King has already been swept from the board.

yes, though that too seems to contrary to the 'fair' portion of the quote above...

thanks for your comments, and perhaps john will find them more helpful than mine.

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Re: Self portrait
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not going to touch that one with a ten-foot pole.

unless i have that backwards somehow...

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Re: >>> Street Photography eXchange #41 <<<
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Ed Gaillard wrote:

xtoph wrote:

bosjohn21 wrote:

beautiful expression and concentration on the center of interest. i too would have liked a wider frame to include some of the player at left, i think. not sure that would have worked. but i do feel the absence of his head/profile.

I don't agree.  That would be a different photograph, with a different meaning.  This one puts me in mind of a quote from the biologist Thomas Henry Huxley, an early supporter of evolution:

"The chess-board is the world; the pieces are the phenomena of the universe; the rules of the game are what we call the laws of Nature. The player on the other side is hidden from us. We know that his play is always fair, just and patient. But also we know, to our cost, that he never overlooks a mistake, or makes the smallest allowance for ignorance."

Note also that White's King has already been swept from the board.

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While the metaphor of the King having been "swept from the board"sound ominous and powerful,  the reality is its a chess lesson and the two pieces on the board are all thats required for the lesson today. I wanted to show the joy and concentration that is so obvious in the young mans face however once I have posted the shot I really have no say in what you see in it. My statement was compleated.  This is in reality a simple photo I cropped out the Chess master for two reasons. First I want you to concentrate on the boy and second the chess masters face is in so much shadow there is not enough detail. I think the photo stands quite nicely as I have presented it but I am allways open to suggestions thanks

Maybe an even tighter crop will be better

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Re: >>> Street Photography eXchange #41 <<<
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actually, to me that tighter crop removes the distraction of the face feeling missing, and makes a more effective photo overall.

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I find this shot completely enchanting.  The hats create two well-placed points of focus, and the graceful boats draw the eye in a horizontal direction and the counterpoints of the goods and the people.   The light on the water is good too.  A very successful shot.

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Boring, but worthy

When I see how the foreground ruins this picture, I want to cry.

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Re: >>> Street Photography eXchange #41 <<<
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Street Disco too loud ....

have a nice day

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D800, 24-85

32mm, 1/200, f5, iso6400

Don't forget to click through to view original or gallery photo always on dpr.

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Re: >>> Street Photography eXchange #41 <<<
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bosjohn21 wrote:

I find this shot completely enchanting.  The hats create two well-placed points of focus, and the graceful boats draw the eye in a horizontal direction and the counterpoints of the goods and the people.   The light on the water is good too.  A very successful shot.

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I tried it in its color original first Frank but the scene was such a riot of color the hats didnt stand out nearly as well. I agree its all about the hats.

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Re: Oxford
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Ignore the frames

The contents of your two images have some really nice things going on but your fighting yourself with the very very very contrasty and very dark "printing". I often like high contrast but for instance in the second photo all I can see really is two very bright contrasty shirts. In the first image I really want to see the facial expressions but they are so dark is difficult, also the larg black empty space on the left is not helping. Try opening up the shadows some and see what you think

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Re: Self portrait
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Light - Rich - Refined

Maybe 2 out of 3   :\

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Ha hahahahahahahah sigh gasp hahahahahahahah

Oh lordy me Frank you have every thing you love right in this little ole slice of something or other

wine women bikes cars and Manhatten whats not to like, But ok I know there is always a but, dare I say ok I dare I think the bloody cencor gestopo will censure your pic for a public goosing.

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