Is there any Landscape photographer using a SD1 Merrill in the house?

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I really had to laugh.... you just couldn't resist that reply, I imagine.
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Laurence Matson wrote:

I tend to use it out of doors.

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...the assist was irresistible, I guess Now, I'd love to hear from you on the matter. Best,

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Laurence Matson wrote:

I tend to use it out of doors.

The SD1 is as good as it gets in my opinion, which I am sure is not shared by everyone.

- It is more flexible than the DPxM cameras, because of the lens choices. Especially, if you want to use longer or ultra-wide lenses, the SD1 is preferable.

- It is faster than the DPxM cameras, especially for matrix shooting. You can gauge the overlaps better in the viewfinder (using the focus points) and work faster across a sweep, when there is a pretty high wind, as in this one (see the leaves on the left):

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/image/149222540

- It is heavier and has a viewfinder. This makes it easier to hold steady without a tripod. Combined with the good OS lenses, this makes it easier to use in the field under certain conditions.

The downsides are:

- Weight and bulk

- Non-matched lenses

Here are some early landscapes:

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/image/146438872

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/image/140710299

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/image/142407840

And one weedscape:

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/image/142424188

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wide angle sd1

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full size -have fun

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you want wide angle ?

this is wide

full size image:

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Laurence Matson wrote:

vbd70 wrote:

Laurence Matson wrote:

I tend to use it out of doors.

The SD1 is as good as it gets in my opinion, which I am sure is not shared by everyone.

- It is more flexible than the DPxM cameras, because of the lens choices. Especially, if you want to use longer or ultra-wide lenses, the SD1 is preferable.

- It is faster than the DPxM cameras, especially for matrix shooting. You can gauge the overlaps better in the viewfinder (using the focus points) and work faster across a sweep, when there is a pretty high wind, as in this one (see the leaves on the left):

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/image/149222540

- It is heavier and has a viewfinder. This makes it easier to hold steady without a tripod. Combined with the good OS lenses, this makes it easier to use in the field under certain conditions.

The downsides are:

- Weight and bulk

- Non-matched lenses

Here are some early landscapes:

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/image/146438872

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/image/140710299

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/image/142407840

And one weedscape:

http://www.pbase.com/lmatson/image/142424188

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Hello Laurence,

thank you for sharing your impressions and your pictures, I appreciate it. Well, of course the SD1 is better than the DP Merrill for Ultra-WA and tele use, since the DP Merrills aren't of any use under 28mm and above 75mm which is exactly why I am seriously thinking about moving to a Foveon-based DSLR. to get the same look in a more flexible package.

Do you have anything shot with a WA, besides the great 70-200 samples you shared? That would be very much appreciated indeed. All the best, and thanks again

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TRIODEROB wrote:

full size -have fun

Thank you very much! Looks pretty sharp up into the corners, however it shows a bit of CA on high-constrast areas. Is this before or after CA-removal in SPP?

Thanks, this was really helpful! Best,

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TRIODEROB wrote:

you want wide angle ?

this is wide

full size image:

Wow, this IS wide! Looks pretty impressive to me, sharpness is great except perhaps the far wide corners (especially lower left), but it is incredibly impressive nevertheless!

Thank you very much for sharing, best,

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Another Sigma SD1 with 8-16 lens at 8mm.

Sigma 8-16 lens at 8 mm

And one with the new 50-500 mm OS.

At 430 mm crop factor

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Another Sigma SD1 with 8-16 lens at 8mm.

Sigma 8-16 lens at 8 mm

And one with the new 50-500 mm OS.

At 430 mm crop factor

Thank you very much for these! I am starting to think that the 8-16 can really deliver, despite some of the negative comments that I found around the net.

Thanks again for sharing, best

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vbd70 wrote:

Hello Kendall,

thank you for the samples. I see what you mean. What it is quite impressive is how well controlled is CA in the second example, did you use SPP's CA controls?

I don't believe I have on that one, generally I've only used the CA controls with DP-1M images.

Good to hear that the 8-16m is great at 10mm. That would be enough for me (of course, if a lens goes to 8 one shall expect it to be good there as well, but this is another story).

Thank you very much again for your help, best

Sure, I always think it better to show reference images because two people can interpret terms quite differently.

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I've used my SD1 to photograph "in the house".

SD1M with 8-16 mm lens -- in the house (condo actually)

This was taken with hand-held with natural light only.

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Kendall Helmstetter Gelner wrote:

vbd70 wrote:

Hello Kendall,

thank you for the samples. I see what you mean. What it is quite impressive is how well controlled is CA in the second example, did you use SPP's CA controls?

I don't believe I have on that one, generally I've only used the CA controls with DP-1M images.

Wow, then it's very impressive indeed. I refer to the top grids in the corner, the ones you aren't happy as far as sharpness goes. CA control is pretty amazing there, I have seen lenses of higher repute faring much worse in similar scenes

Good to hear that the 8-16m is great at 10mm. That would be enough for me (of course, if a lens goes to 8 one shall expect it to be good there as well, but this is another story).

Thank you very much again for your help, best

Sure, I always think it better to show reference images because two people can interpret terms quite differently.

As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words - and is less prone to misinterpretation, too!

Thanks again, best

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I've used my SD1 to photograph "in the house".

SD1M with 8-16 mm lens -- in the house (condo actually)

This was taken with hand-held with natural light only.

You are the second funny guy in the thread, but your image is useful all the same, thank you - you can see the distortion in a real world situation, it seems quite acceptable to me and easily correctable.

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Hello Foveon lovers,

since using the DP1M, DP2M and DP3M the Foveon bug started working its way in my head and I have been considering adding a SD1 Merrill with some lenses to my arsenal. As you can see from my website(s), i do Landscape / Fine Art mostly and some architectural / portrait / editorial as well. At the moment I am Nikon-based, using a D800E & D3x with a lot of Nikon glass (14-24, 24 f1.4, 35 f1.4, 50 f1.4, 85 f1.4, 135 f2, 70-200, 24-45-85 PC-E, etc); however, I am really fond of the Foveon results and would love to have a DSLR with it in it.

For my type of shooting, however, my problem is not with the camera but with the lenses.

So, any Landscape / Fine Art guys in the house that can share their impressions of the SD1 and what glass do they use with it, especially on the WA side of things?

I am thinking 8-16, 35 f1.4, 50 f2.8 (the 50 f1.4 seems a bit soft / have field curvature, for landscape), 85 f1.4 or 70 f2.8 (same logic than with the 50 mm, the 70 seems a bit more solid for landscape), 150 f2.8 macro.

Is there any users of any of this camera / lenses combo that care to share their thoughts?

Any help is much appreciated, thank you in advance.

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Hi Vieri,

I hope you purchase an SD1M and a set of Lenses to complement to camera in the near future as i would love to see some of your images taken with this combination.

I use the SD1M and have a selection of lenses.

Personally i have had very pleasing results with the 20mm f1.8 which i really like on the SD1M.

The 8-16mm DC is also very sharp pretty well across the frame but for me it is a bit of a pain as it requires the Lucroit Filter holder which is an expense.

Also similar in requiring the filter holder is the 12-24mm which i borrowed from a friend and i was blown away with the sharpness on the SD1M (very nice!)

The 10-20mm f3.5 which i have can give good results although i have had mixed results regarding sharpness but the focal length is lovely for most of my work and i find the lens gives good contrast.

Slightly longer but a very worthy contender i have found the newest 24-70EX HSM to be a very good performer with the SD1M. A reasonably fast lens and sharp with again good contrast.

I know most of these lenses have already been mentioned on this post but then that must count for something i guess!

Hope my small contribution is a little bit of a help.

Look forward in seeing some great images from you my friend.

Kind regards Lea.

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Hi Vieri,

I hope you purchase an SD1M and a set of Lenses to complement to camera in the near future as i would love to see some of your images taken with this combination.

I use the SD1M and have a selection of lenses.

Personally i have had very pleasing results with the 20mm f1.8 which i really like on the SD1M.

The 8-16mm DC is also very sharp pretty well across the frame but for me it is a bit of a pain as it requires the Lucroit Filter holder which is an expense.

Also similar in requiring the filter holder is the 12-24mm which i borrowed from a friend and i was blown away with the sharpness on the SD1M (very nice!)

The 10-20mm f3.5 which i have can give good results although i have had mixed results regarding sharpness but the focal length is lovely for most of my work and i find the lens gives good contrast.

Slightly longer but a very worthy contender i have found the newest 24-70EX HSM to be a very good performer with the SD1M. A reasonably fast lens and sharp with again good contrast.

I know most of these lenses have already been mentioned on this post but then that must count for something i guess!

Hope my small contribution is a little bit of a help.

Look forward in seeing some great images from you my friend.

Kind regards Lea.

Hello Lea,

thank you very much for your long and detailed reply, I really appreciate it, as well as your kind words about my photography.

I surely hope I will have soon a SD1 in my hands, and I hope to be able to put it to a good use.

Let me start by saying that your experience with all the WA for the SD1 is impressive; it is difficult enough to find SD1 users, let alone people that tried pretty much all the WA Sigma has to offer.

I am glad to hear that the 8-16 is good and sharp all over the frame; I think I am leaning towards this lens, in the end it just seems to be the best option. I have the Lee SW 150 for the Nikon 14-24, which I think I can be able to adjust to fit the 8-16 with the Lee adapter and a 77mm filter holder with some little extra modifications... A bit of a pain, as you say, but doable. Once I do that, I will use the filters for all the other lens, too, so (even if they are really huge!) is not too big a deal - I'd carry a filter set (Singh-Ray, squares) anyway, so a few cm more aren't going to be a problem. The adapter is big though.

I am surprised to hear about the 12-24, I didn't think it would be sharp enough for the new sensor of the SD1 and the strain it puts on the lenses. However, that's an option worth considering, actually: a very sharp over the frame 18mm equivalent lens would be wide enough for me.

I kinda dismissed the 20 and the 10-20 (both of them) after seeing a lot of samples online; they just don't seem up to the sensor, especially on the sides and in the corners.

The 24-70 looks good in general, very good on the long end but I found it quite weak on the wide end from the samples I have seen... do you agree with these findings?

Well, this is about it for the moment; thank you so much for your help, again I appreciate it very much your taking the time and sharing.

Best,

Vieri

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