Peel off delaminating Trublack screen or leave it?

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saintz
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Peel off delaminating Trublack screen or leave it?
Apr 10, 2013

I have a NEX 5N with Trublack screen that is starting to delaminate. The outer edges are now shinier, while the middle is still "true black". Is it better to leave it as is (at least the main screen is still true black) or peel it off and replace with a screen protector?

I've peeled a delaminating screen off a NEX 3 and replaced with a screen protector before, which worked fine. However although it will make it look better, I'm wondering if it's better to leave it and keep at least some of the antireflective capability of the trublack.

Can anyone comment on reflection/glare differences using the stock trublack screen vs. an aftermarket screen protector?

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In reply to saintz, Apr 11, 2013

Can you describe how you 'peeled' off the coating on your previous camera ?

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In reply to Keit ll, Apr 11, 2013

There is a thin, hard plastic layer that's glued to the glass of the screen. If you flick a nail under a corner, it will lift from the glass. It's basically a built in screen protector but it's also what's supposed to give the anti-glare and true black capability to the glass. Once the corner is lifted, just peel and it will come off. This will remove the layer that has the delaminating effect. You are left with just the glass screen. I would recommend putting a screen protector on at this point.

The question is really if it's better leaving this layer if it's delaminating, or if it is better to just remove it.

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In reply to saintz, Apr 11, 2013

Sony is going to replace mine under warranty. I already have the docs to send it back after my trip. Is yours still under warranty?

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In reply to Glenn, Apr 11, 2013

Doubtful, I bought it second hand.

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mine too. Warranty is transferable actually. Those other cameras are non touch screen. Any difference?
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In reply to saintz, Apr 11, 2013

I can't say for certain whether in direct sunlight it's still useful to have that trublack coating, but what I can say without a doubt is that it is nicer 100% of the time when not in direct sunlight to not have that godawful difference between the center and edges of the screen.  At the time my nex 7's replacement cover came in the mail the screen looked like absolute crap.
I'd rip it off and replace it in a heartbeat.

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The problem that I have is that there doesn't appear to be a laminated film over my LCD ? If there is one on my NEX 7 it is well & truly stuck onto its base.

I polished the mottled surface until I had removed it all but was left with a slightly wavy surface which gives a mild distortion to the LCD display. If the accounts are correct do I still have this film on  my LCD & if so how can I persuade it to peel off ?

What is the surface left when this film is peeled off , is it plastic ?

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In reply to Keit ll, Apr 12, 2013

Yes, i too would like to find out if the nex 6 and 7 have the same layer? Anyone with experience pls answer?

I have one scratch i would like to get rid of dead centre of screen on my 6. Would like to then use sony semi hard protector.

Can we buy the same anti glare film from sony and apply a new layer? The descriptions for all the screen protector range dont seem to mention Tru-black.

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In reply to saintz, Apr 12, 2013

saintz wrote:

This is the process:

http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2011/04/18/replacing-nex-lcd-cover-glass/

I loved this solution right up to the point (in the comments) where the  author says that a phones touch-screen did not work with the replacement glass installed. So it might ruin the touch screen function of the NEX-5n.

Some may see that as an improvement - I would not, The capacitive touchscreen on the NEX-5n is one of the best features in the entire NEX line-up (the 5r is resistive which is a step backwards as far as I understand).

However, they did replace the tru-black film with a piece of glass. I wonder if you could replace it with a similar film that would still keep the touch sensitivity. I know other screen protectors dont affect touch so that might be a solution - BUT they are placed ON TOP of the tru-black layer (so the tru-black layer may be essential to provide touch - I just dont know).

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In reply to saintz, 8 months ago

I had just bought my NEX-7 when I read the stories about the dreaded peeling screen. Luckily the problem is less severe then I thought it was. I think that it's best to just peel off the damaged layer (without warping or scratching the screen underneath) and replace it with the plastic Sony PCK-LM1EA (you can order it directly from Sony) or any third party (glass or plastic) protector you like. There are several listed on eBay. It's not that hard to do and it can be done in minutes. You can also let Sony repair it for you. You'll probably be without a camera for several weeks though. My screen still looks fine but I put a Sony PCK-LM1EA on it. Maybe this will prevent the original layer from getting damaged.

This might be an interesting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW724cngWk4

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In reply to David Smith - Photographer, 8 months ago

Has anyone determined whether the NEX 6 screen film is removable? Mine has a pretty bad scratch in the middle and I want to remove it and put on a glass cover if possible but I don't want to ruin the screen by trying to remove the cover if it is not easily removable.

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David Smith - Photographer wrote:

I had just bought my NEX-7 when I read the stories about the dreaded peeling screen. Luckily the problem is less severe then I thought it was. I think that it's best to just peel off the damaged layer (without warping or scratching the screen underneath) and replace it with the plastic Sony PCK-LM1EA (you can order it directly from Sony) or any third party (glass or plastic) protector you like. There are several listed on eBay. It's not that hard to do and it can be done in minutes. You can also let Sony repair it for you. You'll probably be without a camera for several weeks though. My screen still looks fine but I put a Sony PCK-LM1EA on it. Maybe this will prevent the original layer from getting damaged.

This might be an interesting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW724cngWk4

When I sent my NEX-5 to Sony's Dallas repair center to have the screen replaced, I had it back within a week. Are they that much slower now?

On my NEX-7, I replaced the LCD myself... but the touchscreen LCD for the 5N is a lot more expensive - looks like $70, versus about $35 for the non touchscreen version.

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Emrik wrote:

Yes, i too would like to find out if the nex 6 and 7 have the same layer? Anyone with experience pls answer?

I have one scratch i would like to get rid of dead centre of screen on my 6. Would like to then use sony semi hard protector.

Can we buy the same anti glare film from sony and apply a new layer? The descriptions for all the screen protector range dont seem to mention Tru-black.

I've had many issues with this on NEX 7 bodies, and to my knowledge they do not have this layer or if they do it can't be peeled off...

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Marla2008 wrote:

Emrik wrote:

Yes, i too would like to find out if the nex 6 and 7 have the same layer? Anyone with experience pls answer?

I have one scratch i would like to get rid of dead centre of screen on my 6. Would like to then use sony semi hard protector.

Can we buy the same anti glare film from sony and apply a new layer? The descriptions for all the screen protector range dont seem to mention Tru-black.

I've had many issues with this on NEX 7 bodies, and to my knowledge they do not have this layer or if they do it can't be peeled off...

That's what I used to think but the top layer is there & very well stuck on ! Replacement LCDs , however ,  do not have this ant-reflective layer.

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Keit ll wrote:

Marla2008 wrote:

Emrik wrote:

Yes, i too would like to find out if the nex 6 and 7 have the same layer? Anyone with experience pls answer?

I have one scratch i would like to get rid of dead centre of screen on my 6. Would like to then use sony semi hard protector.

Can we buy the same anti glare film from sony and apply a new layer? The descriptions for all the screen protector range dont seem to mention Tru-black.

I've had many issues with this on NEX 7 bodies, and to my knowledge they do not have this layer or if they do it can't be peeled off...

That's what I used to think but the top layer is there & very well stuck on ! Replacement LCDs , however , do not have this ant-reflective layer.

The replacement LCD I got from DH Cameras was identical to the original and did indeed have the AR layer.

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