"God is my Co-Pilot" - veeery busy picture ...

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"God is my Co-Pilot" - veeery busy picture ...
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Hard Rock Café, Barcelona

Taken August 2011 in Barcelona, processed just now. Overwhelming detail, much, much too busy IMO. My eye can rest absolutely nowhere.

And somehow I like it all the same ...

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I Think this is a very good picture.  the colors are matching perfectly and make the parts come together like one item. Very good.

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Hard Rock Café, Barcelona

Taken August 2011 in Barcelona, processed just now. Overwhelming detail, much, much too busy IMO. My eye can rest absolutely nowhere.

And somehow I like it all the same ...

Having a clearly located place for the eye to rest is an overrated photographic value IMHO.  Many of the pictures I feel are my best are ones that have no particular point of focus, and detail throughout.  Needless to say, other people don't tend to prefer them as much as I do.  I attribute this partly to a difference of temperament, and partly to everyone being raised on the kind of photography that's used in advertising.  I like this picture of yours.

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Busy yet intriguing Phil.

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I think in general this rule is correct, though it can't limit the photographer. Your picture (which I like very much) is a good example, that rules should be broken sometimes. BTW - my visit to a bar in Athens:

http://mojefotki.net/index.php?album=65&start=56

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I like it like it alot. But still a little disappointed as I was expecting it to be filled with multiple images of you!

Crazy place!

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Haha, wonderful image Phil!! It deserves to be printed BIG

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Having been there, I believe that this is a very nice picture which would make a beautifull big print!

Thanks for sharing it,

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Akar wrote:

I think in general this rule is correct, though it can't limit the photographer. Your picture (which I like very much) is a good example, that rules should be broken sometimes. BTW - my visit to a bar in Athens:

http://mojefotki.net/index.php?album=65&start=56

Is this picture busy or not?

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Hi Andrzej,

Your Athens gallery is wonderfull. Well done!!

Well, before posting the above, I had a look at some folders of your site and there is some beautifull photography in there. Frogs are great too! Congratulations! I really enjoyed it! Bookmarked for inspiration

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Spyros

PS. For some reason browsing through your images is not fluid. A picture sharpeness only the moment it is about to change to the next one, after my hitting the "next" button. I hope that it is a matter of slow connection (my connection) and that others do not have the same problem. Again, great photo collection.

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kriztian wrote:

I Think this is a very good picture.  the colors are matching perfectly and make the parts come together like one item. Very good.

Thanks, Krisztian.

I tried a lot of different PP methods before I decided to go this way. One reason was that with bleach bypass colors generally do match a bit better - because a b/w-image sort of is being superimposed on the color image, and that reduces color differences. That was a good thing for this sort of pic, I think.

Glad you like it!

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paulkienitz wrote:

Having a clearly located place for the eye to rest is an overrated photographic value IMHO.  Many of the pictures I feel are my best are ones that have no particular point of focus, and detail throughout.  Needless to say, other people don't tend to prefer them as much as I do.  I attribute this partly to a difference of temperament, and partly to everyone being raised on the kind of photography that's used in advertising.  I like this picture of yours.

Very interesting thoughts, Paul, on different type of pictures and the way we have been trained to look at them - raised with ads.

I do think that there is also a tradition with detail laden pics - I can stare for a long time at a lot of pics of Hieronymus Bosch for example, or the peasant paintings of Pieter Bruegel the Elder. They fascinate because there is so much to see and discover.

Not that I would dare to compare anything I do with those two ...

Thanks for your comment and for looking!

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Busy yet intriguing Phil.

Isn't it Dean? Can't really put my finger on it and don't know exactly why, but intriguing it is.

Thanks for your comment!

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Akar wrote:

I think in general this rule is correct, though it can't limit the photographer. Your picture (which I like very much) is a good example, that rules should be broken sometimes. BTW - my visit to a bar in Athens:

http://mojefotki.net/index.php?album=65&start=56

Is this picture busy or not?

Andrzej,

your picture is an oasis of calm. It's not busy at all IMO, the bottles in the background add just structure to it. Well done!

I do agree that any rules should be broken once in a while. Thanks for your comment!

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Brentliris wrote:

I like it like it alot. But still a little disappointed as I was expecting it to be filled with multiple images of you!

Thanks! And sorry for the missing clones ... Will see if I can sign them up again for some work int the future.

Crazy place!

Isn't it?!

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Haha, wonderful image Phil!! It deserves to be printed BIG

Thanks, Mike. Already did a very nice print on A4 sized matte paper. Looks veeery good.

Thinking about doing a larger print, but have to see if the PP introduced noise and the soft rendition of the fully open Tammy will stand up to that ...

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kitsios_spyros wrote:

Having been there, I believe that this is a very nice picture which would make a beautifull big print!

Thanks very much, Spyros! As I already wrote in my answer to Mike I already did a very nice A4 sized print and am thinking about doing a larger one.

When have you been there at the Barcelona Hard Rock Café? Any pics to share from your visit?

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Sometimes busy can be desirable to give the true sense of the location, and what the photographer tries to relay in the image.

Your image has a nice symmetry to it, and it depicts the atmosphere of the location perfectly.

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Vlad from Melbourne wrote:

Sometimes busy can be desirable to give the true sense of the location, and what the photographer tries to relay in the image.

Your image has a nice symmetry to it, and it depicts the atmosphere of the location perfectly.

Thanks for your comment, Vlad. The symmetry and the color distribution makes the pic acceptable, I think. It sure looked "wow!" as a I saw it, and I tried to capture that effect.

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paulkienitz wrote:

Having a clearly located place for the eye to rest is an overrated photographic value IMHO.  Many of the pictures I feel are my best are ones that have no particular point of focus, and detail throughout.  Needless to say, other people don't tend to prefer them as much as I do.  I attribute this partly to a difference of temperament, and partly to everyone being raised on the kind of photography that's used in advertising.  I like this picture of yours.

Very interesting thoughts, Paul, on different type of pictures and the way we have been trained to look at them - raised with ads.

I do think that there is also a tradition with detail laden pics - I can stare for a long time at a lot of pics of Hieronymus Bosch for example, or the peasant paintings of Pieter Bruegel the Elder. They fascinate because there is so much to see and discover.

Ah, this reply to Paul preempted me, Phil.  I looked at your shot last night just before bed so I deferred comment.  Overnight I thought of it in the context of Bosch and Bruegel gor just the reasons you say.

It also put me in mind of those records of 19th century art shows with pictures from floor to (high) ceiling and wall to wall.  As with your shot, the individual pictures were "composed" by rule but the overall record was as much about the socil side of things as anything else.

As you'll have gathered, I rather like your shot and the way you've treated it.

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Gerry Winterbourne wrote:

It also put me in mind of those records of 19th century art shows with pictures from floor to (high) ceiling and wall to wall.  As with your shot, the individual pictures were "composed" by rule but the overall record was as much about the socil side of things as anything else.

Something like this here: http://www.courtauld.ac.uk/gallery/archive/2001/artonline/index.shtml

As you'll have gathered, I rather like your shot and the way you've treated it.

Thanks very much, Gerry. And nice to know that we thought along the same lines here ...

Phil

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