New Lowepro bag - Photo Sport Pro 30L AW ?

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New Lowepro bag - Photo Sport Pro 30L AW ?
Apr 8, 2013

I was digging B&H site to see what bags they have and came out with this page:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/937743-REG/lowepro_lp36505_pww_photo_sport_pro_30l.html

I can't find this bag on LowePro official website, also it's not the Photo Sport 200 AW bag, just look on the image with its back side on B&H site.

Another strange thing is that B&H site has only images for this bag but no other information such as specifications.

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Re: New Lowepro bag - Photo Sport Pro 30L AW ?
In reply to vitebski, Apr 8, 2013

Altrec.com has it up as well, but it looks like they jumped the gun on an announcement.  The 30L daypack class of adventure camera bags is getting rather competitive this year.  Clik Elite should be about to announce their new lineup as well.

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In reply to vitebski, Apr 8, 2013

What's not entirely clear is what the camera carrying capacity of this bag is.  It appears sized to carry a pro body with battery grip and something like a 70-200 f2.8 attached in a module that's removable like in the RoverPro and Hatchback series, but that module appears to open up only on the end and it doesn't look wide enough to store another lens alongside the body like you can in the 200AW and 100AW.  Perhaps if you are carrying a smaller or slower lens you can stack them in the module and go fishing when you want to switch lenses.  In any case this appears to be more of a swing-to-front camera holster with perhaps 20+L of personal storage, a good size for alpine sports photogs or wilderness daytrippers with a small photo kit.

Nice that it has a trampoline style suspension and a beefier waistbelt.  I'm not sure how well this will fare against some of its competitors - it's much deeper to hold that gripped pro body and still quite short, whereas the best adventure packs try to keep things as shallow as possible and go taller.

We'll find out soon enough.

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In reply to vitebski, Apr 14, 2013

I've been looking for a bag for my 100-400L for a while and just happened to run into this in a store today, was surprised since I hadn't seen it online at all.

I've posted a bunch of pictures if anyone wants to get a better idea of how much it'll hold. It seems like a pretty good fit for someone who liked the photo sport 200 but has longer lenses.

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Thanks for the review.  The photos are useful.  You should post it on cambags.com

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Sh4d0w wrote:

I've been looking for a bag for my 100-400L for a while and just happened to run into this in a store today, was surprised since I hadn't seen it online at all.

I've posted a bunch of pictures if anyone wants to get a better idea of how much it'll hold. It seems like a pretty good fit for someone who liked the photo sport 200 but has longer lenses.

Thanks very much, this answers a lot of my questions about how you'd store the rest of your kit.  Those of us who are not carrying a big long lens could easily put a mid-zoom or even a 70-300 on the camera and bury a short zoom or prime at the bottom, with a lot of space left over for a 3rd lens and accessories on the side. Basically, a Pro-oriented 200 AW as you state.

Questions for you if you wouldn't mind:

You've a 7D; for a D7100 or similar mid-sized body, can the module be cinched down to securely hold the camera?  And if so, is is possible to access the freed space between the module and the shell of the bag for other items? (The 200 AW allows you to stuff around the camera module)

How tall is the bag? If you could list off the dimensional specifications from your product tag that would be great...even LowePro is behind here.  The 200AW is pretty short and not well-suited for a 14 mile hike well loaded, especially if you're taller. If this thing offers about 20-22 liters of personal space it would be about right.

How do you find the hipbelt?  More solid than the 200AW, or just as wimpy?

Thanks for posting.

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Re: New Lowepro bag - Photo Sport Pro 30L AW ?
In reply to mosswings, Apr 14, 2013

mosswings wrote:

Sh4d0w wrote:

I've been looking for a bag for my 100-400L for a while and just happened to run into this in a store today, was surprised since I hadn't seen it online at all.

I've posted a bunch of pictures if anyone wants to get a better idea of how much it'll hold. It seems like a pretty good fit for someone who liked the photo sport 200 but has longer lenses.

Thanks very much, this answers a lot of my questions about how you'd store the rest of your kit.  Those of us who are not carrying a big long lens could easily put a mid-zoom or even a 70-300 on the camera and bury a short zoom or prime at the bottom, with a lot of space left over for a 3rd lens and accessories on the side. Basically, a Pro-oriented 200 AW as you state.

Questions for you if you wouldn't mind:

You've a 7D; for a D7100 or similar mid-sized body, can the module be cinched down to securely hold the camera?  And if so, is is possible to access the freed space between the module and the shell of the bag for other items? (The 200 AW allows you to stuff around the camera module)

Yes, it works the same way like the 200AW here with the draw straps around the camera module. You could probably put some other stuff around it, but I'm not sure what you'd want to put there...

How tall is the bag? If you could list off the dimensional specifications from your product tag that would be great...even LowePro is behind here.  The 200AW is pretty short and not well-suited for a 14 mile hike well loaded, especially if you're taller. If this thing offers about 20-22 liters of personal space it would be about right.

13.0W x 9.4D x 19.3H

The packing pillow that came in the top area is 14x12 if that helps.

How do you find the hipbelt?  More solid than the 200AW, or just as wimpy?

I haven't actually used the 200aw asides from a brief play in the store and I don't recall how it was. This one pretty light and not padded or anything like some heavier hiking bags, but its quite comfortable in my quick tests. The left one has a zipper compartment too.

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Sh4d0w wrote:

Yes, it works the same way like the 200AW here with the draw straps around the camera module. You could probably put some other stuff around it, but I'm not sure what you'd want to put there...

How tall is the bag? If you could list off the dimensional specifications from your product tag that would be great...even LowePro is behind here.  The 200AW is pretty short and not well-suited for a 14 mile hike well loaded, especially if you're taller. If this thing offers about 20-22 liters of personal space it would be about right.

13.0W x 9.4D x 19.3H

Precisely the same height as the 200AW - just 1.5" deeper and wider.  Implies that those load lifter straps won't be doing much for anyone taller than 5' 9".  A good 1.5" of that depth in the center of the bag, though, is taken up in the curve of the trampoline suspension. So most of that depth appears at the bottom.

The packing pillow that came in the top area is 14x12 if that helps.

So about 20-22L of useable space in the top, 8-12 L in the photo compartment. Not bad.

And looking at your pictures, it appears that the divider between the top and photo compartments wraps around the camera module and is sewn in at the very bottom...it looks like you can stick your hand between the shell of the bag and the divider and go all the way down.  If so, that's good...you can put light stuff in there if you need to.

How do you find the hipbelt?  More solid than the 200AW, or just as wimpy?

I haven't actually used the 200aw asides from a brief play in the store and I don't recall how it was. This one pretty light and not padded or anything like some heavier hiking bags, but its quite comfortable in my quick tests. The left one has a zipper compartment too.

It wouldn't be, but I notice more a more obvious perforated foam core in the hipbelt wings.  As compared to the two layers of thin fabric on the 200 AW.  That's an improvement.

This bag's major competitor is the Clik Elite Obscura, which also has a side access port but requires you to store your extra lenses in a pouch at the top (it's a panel opening bag), and it won't fit a pro body with grip.  So in terms of flexibility, this bag has it over the Obscura.  Fit wise, the Obscura is about 22" tall and an inch thinner (direct contact suspension), which means that the load lifters actually work and you can move weight higher up for longer distance hiking.

On the other hand, trampoline suspensions move loads away from your back, which is destabilizing. So the best place to put the heavier items in your pack is at either end of the trampoline...pretty much where the camera equipment and the water bladder go.  Then if you make sure you keep the outside of the pack filled with light stuff, it can work.

Final question...how much does it weigh? Specs are fine.  I'd guess 3.3 lbs.

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In reply to Sh4d0w, Apr 15, 2013

Any tripod mounting?  I have not found any images of the non-camera access side, so is there a pocket and strap there?

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Ken Gosden wrote:

Any tripod mounting?  I have not found any images of the non-camera access side, so is there a pocket and strap there?

Yes.  Does double duty as a water pocket if you want. Same carry system as the 200AW.  Check out BHPhoto's large image list for the "left-side view".  Note that since this is a swing-to-front style bag, putting the tripod on the opposite side keeps the tripod out of the way during that operation. Unfortunately it can imbalance the bag...but strapping the tripod on the center back puts a lot of weight too far away from the back and tires the shoulders, unless you have a serious hipbelt and a tall enough pack to be able to keep the load high.

Incidentally, you can potentially use this bag without swinging to the front, sort of as a reach-back holster, because the opening is large enough and the door opens away from the body. You just don't zip up the opening all the way around.  Make sure you've tethered the camera body to your shoulder strap, though.  I've tried this with some other packs, and it's a nice option that avoids fussing with unsnapping the harness, as long as you can keep the other stuff in the compartment from falling out.

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Re: New Lowepro bag - Photo Sport Pro 30L AW ?
In reply to mosswings, Apr 15, 2013

Final question...how much does it weigh? Specs are fine.  I'd guess 3.3 lbs.

3.6LB

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Sh4d0w wrote:

Final question...how much does it weigh? Specs are fine.  I'd guess 3.3 lbs.

3.6LB

Thanks.  The bag came into my local shop today and I spent a good time trying it on with about 12 lbs. of gear weight (typical for a wilderness day hike with a 2-3 consumer lens kit) and comparing it to the current version of the Obscura, about to be replaced in May.

Observations: surprisingly comfortable for a short bag (I'm 6' tall).  Wide, relatively supportive hipbelt of contemporary design - i.e., thinnish, not overly padded.  Gets its support through its width.  Make sure that you place it properly on your iliac crests, though...it's designed to ride somewhat high.

The trampoline suspension is not heavily bowed and so minimizes projection from the back.  Good.  All trampoline suspensions transfer the load straight to the bottom of the bag and into the belt, so the sensation is nothing against most of your back, but noticeable pressure at the base of your spine. The camera load will be the heaviest in the bag, and it's right down against the bottom, so you don't feel that load.  Weight higher up will tend to dig the bottom of the bag in against your spine if carried too far away from the back, so if carrying water, it should be in the bladder pouch next to the back, and the bag should be packed with progressively lighter stuff in the middle and as you move out from the back.

Big question mark...there is NO lumbar pad. With the test load I could feel the lower frame against the base of my spine. If you are not wearing something to pad this region, like a thick sweater, this could be an issue for longer hikes.

The side portal access is very nice and permits easy reach-back access of the camera should you desire it.  No need to swing the bag around to the front to grab your camera, as long as you keep the top of the portal unzipped and only close up the bottom and some of the side.  Easy to reholster and rezip.  Good.

One can store a 3 consumer zoom kit and a standard body easily.  A standard body wallows around in the bag...it's intended for pro bodies, after all.  You can actually turn the camera so that its base faces the ground rather than your back.  Not terribly good for a standard body kit.  A very deep bag that can't be compressed down in this area much at all.

Very wide. 13" from top to bottom, no tapering.  I could feel my arms brushing the sides of the bag while walking.  A tripod carried on the side would interfere, as would a water bottle. Iffy.

Huge upper compartment, easily 20L.  Interior water bladder storage, a bit of a problem if things spring a leak.

Bottom line, nice bag, but pretty much tailored for a pro body.  The 200AW is a better urban bag for consumer DSLR bodies, but it's a bit small and wimpy for serious daypacking use.  The Obscura doesn't feel quite as comfortable (direct contact vs. trampoline back), but is better padded and the new version should have a bit stiffer back for better weight transfer. Also more stable in scrambling situations. Wait 'til May and do a comparo before you buy for serious backpacking duties.  For urban and less demanding hiking missions using pro gear this is an excellent product, however.

There's definitely room in the LowePro lineup for a Photo Sport Pro 300 AW that's about as shallow as the 200 AW but 4" taller and 1" wider.

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