water splash - fail

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b4cktr4ck Regular Member • Posts: 156
water splash - fail

Hi,

I wanted to freeze the water splashing but the result is not what I wanted

I set the camera to the highest sync speed (1/180), as I noticed that with slower shutter speed the shot was even more blurred. Medium aperture f/6.3 to get people in focus and increased the ISO high to get some ambient light.The flash was off camera and behind a white shoot thru umbrella, about 1/4 power.

Maybe using direct flash would have frozen better the water? but I didn't want to have harsh light on the people

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hotdog321 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,467
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This looks pretty good, but I think you got ghosting from the ambient light. The only way I can think to freeze the splash is to shoot in dim light and let the flash freeze the action. I shot this one during my film daze and turned out the dojo lights. Not perfect, but there was still some ambient light and I was having to shoot at something horrible like 1/60 or 1/125 sec:

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SeaScout851 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,181
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Set the camera to high speed sync.  Then go to manual mode.  You'll then need to try different settings to make sure you get the light right.  But I'd start with something like ISO 400,  F5.6 and 1/1000 sec.

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b4cktr4ck OP Regular Member • Posts: 156
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is there any disadvantage in using HHS?

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Peter Berressem Forum Pro • Posts: 10,647
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b4cktr4ck wrote:

is there any disadvantage in using HHS?

Well, you lose some (3 f/stops) of the flash power, resulting in either a wider aperture or higher ISO.

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b4cktr4ck OP Regular Member • Posts: 156
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so it's like a compromise right. I can freeze the water but I may not be able to capture ambient light and/or use a wider aperture and potentially loose some focus on the people

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LincolnB Veteran Member • Posts: 4,108
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b4cktr4ck wrote:

Hi,

I wanted to freeze the water splashing but the result is not what I wanted

I set the camera to the highest sync speed (1/180), as I noticed that with slower shutter speed the shot was even more blurred.

Yes, because a higher percentage of the lighting is coming from ambient and thus being captured at the full shutter duration. The longer the shutter is open the more blur you're going to get. You wanted the majority of your lighting to come from flash, not ambient. Essentially the ambient is being recorded at 1/180th of a second while the flash is roughly 1/2000th (depending on your flash unit).

Medium aperture f/6.3 to get people in focus and increased the ISO high to get some ambient light.The flash was off camera and behind a white shoot thru umbrella, about 1/4 power.

Maybe using direct flash would have frozen better the water? but I didn't want to have harsh light on the people

Then use flash with as diffuse light source as you can manage, e.g. a larger umbrella or a closer umbrella.

This is a mix of mostly flash and and a little bit of ambient, at 1/60th. Note the combination of both blur and freeze-frame:

These are almost entirely lit with flash:

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b4cktr4ck OP Regular Member • Posts: 156
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thanks for the clarification and examples! building experience

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