Very curious about the successor to SX50HS (SX60HS?)

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Byrna
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Very curious about the successor to SX50HS (SX60HS?)
Apr 7, 2013

I was checking Canon's new cameras and noticed that their newest Powershots, the SX 270 and 280 have a new DIGIC 6 processor AND can finally do 1920x1080 video at 60fps progressive! Until now, the best that Canon could do was 24 or 30p! So I'm very excited that the next superzoom, probably the SX 60HS will also have 60p full HD video! My parents have the SX40HS which I was very impressed with. I own the Sony HX100V and Sony still insists on being idiotic in its design and just simply jacks up the pixels without making the most needed improvements like a fully articulated LCD screen which Canon has had for years already!

So I might be selling my HX100V for the new SX60HS if it has the features I think (hope) it will have.  It looks like, though, that the successor to the 50HS won't come out until September 2013 because the 50 came out in Sept 2012.  But maybe we'll be lucky and get the 60 sooner, like in June, in time for the summer holiday season.

Just thought I'd share this with everyone. The reason I am so excited is because, in 2011, I tried two different small sensor 1/2.3" cameras, returned them, before finally getting the Sony. But I was very impressed with the image quality of the little ol' Canon SX230IS, but returned it due to choppy video at 24p.  Now, with 60p and a fully articulated LCD panel, and other features like a variable white balance, the new Canon should be the best small sensor super zoom yet.  Unless of course, Panasonic's successor to the FZ200 also has some amazing advancements.

Let's cross our fingers, those of us waiting to buy but who are not in a big rush.

John

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I too would like to see what Canon does with the SX60hs, however don't expect much.  Perhaps improved video and Digic 6 but not much else.  After all the 50 is still a big seller with that impressive zoom range.  Canon tends to give a little, take a little, so what will it be?

I have the SX40hs so the 60 would have to blow my socks off.  Won't likely happen but it's anyone's guess.  With a cruise coming up in September it would be nice if it was announced very soon but again, won't likely happen until the day I ship out.

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I have the SX40IS and just bought the SX50HS due to it's RAW feature.  The SX40IS is an awesome camera.  BestBuy just dropped the price of the SX50HS to $389 from $429 and wondered if the new model is coming out soon or are they just price matching Amazon's price.  Even Costco doesn't sell the SX50HS anymore so I believe the next model is on it's way.

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I hope that the EVF will be better. At least, such in the Fuji HS50EXR (0.26")

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The new Fujifilm bridge camera should give the SX50HS a run for the money.  I like the manual zooming feature and supposedly a faster focusing sensor but it's only 42x which isn't much different from my SX40IS

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Hello all, In Canon SX50 successor (Canon SX60) a must be in my opinion: )Panasonic Lumix FZ200's EVF has a much higher 1.3 million dot resolution- EVF resolution doubled vs SX50 (at least 400,000pixels resolution or better i.e.:  - Recording Full HD with 30fps(finally as 23.9fps now is too stuttery and years behind competition ), 720p with 60fps. (and super speed mode 640x420@120fps, 320x200@300fps would be nice as well but not essential) - Make it faster: at least 2fps with AF(also increase to 4fps with AF/AE lock) It would be really good to have(if not in SX60 then definitively as must be in it's successor Canon SX70 model): - Faster AF with more AF points. - Manual focus ring (like in Fujifilem HS50EXR again nice DSLR feel) - Manual zoom (apart from automatic as an option i.e.: Fujifilem HS50EXR nice DSLR feel) - SD card UHS I standard support.(or maybe even UHS II)
- USB 3.0 support. - Screen 3" with 1,040,000 resolution. - ISO 50-12800 also better in low light (maybe time to use bigger sensor? like 1/8" or 1/1.7") - Optical zoom x60  20mm-1200mm or 22mm-1320mm or 24mm-1440mm Not neccesary but would be nice: - More efficient/more voluminous battery or maybe better 4xAA(as it used to be in SX1 and earlier SX20) - Battery charging through USB 3.0. - Record RAW video in stereo. Canon could actually develop (along SX60) a more "posh" hybrid model SX2 (similar to SX1 few years ago) more expensive but with more options and better materials used.  - price - it can be the same or even more expensive than SX50(but no more than 50%) - - weight, it can be heavier than SX50(but no more than 30%) - dimensions, it can be larger than SX50(but no more than 30%) - resolution, no need to rise above 12.1megapixels (4000x3000) yet but don't downgrade either. I do not care so much about: - Hot shue. - RAW/RAW+JPEG/HDR mode. - amazing articulated vari-angle screen Please do keep at all costs: - Bring back: filters fit 58mm possibility (like in: SX40, SX1, SI5 and earlier models - not documented by Canon but all 58mm filters could be mounted without buying any adaptors) - Flash range 6m or more. - Better weather sealing. - Better panorama/360 degree stitch mode. - Remote control (like in SX1) - Printed user guide. - 2x SD card slots (mode to record movie on one and save photos on other, mirror mode etc.) - GPS chip. - SD card slots accessible while on tripod. All the best
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Hi Radbul , are you Salesman for Panasonic or what ??

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No. Why? I just gave an example of better solutions in other brands. i.e.: much better Electronic viewfinder in Panasonic, manual zoom&focus solutions in Fuji, recording frame rate in Sony...etc. to give potential reader better perspective.

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No. Why? I just gave an example of better solutions in other brands. i.e.: much better Electronic viewfinder in Panasonic, manual zoom&focus solutions in Fuji, recording frame rate in Sony...etc. to give potential reader better perspective.

Actually my list was somehow distorted by dpreview..hmm it should look like:

Must be in my opinion: )Panasonic Lumix FZ200's EVF has a much higher 1.3 million dot resolution- EVF resolution doubled vs SX50 (at least 400,000pixels resolution or better i.e.:  - Recording Full HD with 30fps(finally), 720p with 60fps, and super speed mode 640x420@100fps, 320x200@300fps - Make it faster: at least 2fps with AF(also increase to 4fps with AF/AE lock) It would be really good to have(if not in SX60 then definitively as must be in SX70 model): - Faster AF with more AF points. - Manual focus ring (like in Fujifilem HS50EXR again nice DSLR feel) - Manual zoom (apart from automatic as an option i.e.: Fujifilem HS50EXR nice DSLR feel) - SD card UHS I standard support.(or maybe even UHS II)
- USB 3.0 support. - Screen 3" with 1,040,000 resolution. - ISO 50-12800 also better in low light (maybe time to use bigger sensor? like 1/1.7") - Optical zoom x60  20mm-1200mm or 22mm-1320mm or 24mm-1440mm Not neccesary but would be nice: - More efficient/volume battery or maybe better 4xAA(as it used to be in SX1 and earlier) - Battery charging through USB 3.0. - Record RAW video in stereo. - price - it can be the same or even more expensive than SX50(but no more than 50%) - weight, it can be heavier than SX50(but no more than 30%) - dimensions, it can be larger than SX50(but no more than 20%) - resolution, no need to rise above 12.1megapixels (4000x3000) yet but don't downgrade either. I do not care so much about: - Hot shue. - RAW/RAW+JPEG mode. - amazing articulated screen Please do keep at all costs: - Bring back: filters fit 58mm (like SX40, SX1, SI5 and earlier models - never documented by Canon but it worked) - Flash range 6m or more. - Better weather sealing. - Mic input. - Better panorama/360 degree stitch mode. - Remote control (like in SX1) - Printed user guide. - 2x SD card slots (mode to record movie on one and save photos on other, mirror mode etc.) - GPS chip. - SD card slots accessible while on tripod.
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yep I got it, but also SX50 have a bunch of great things too, and if you can read the comments from owners of SX50, all theme love it a lot.

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Again it distorted my post:( but I hope you get an idea what I expect of successors of Canon SX50HS.

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I am the happy owner of SX50 and I also like it a lot, but I do not see any revelance to the topic what you would see in it's successor.

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A few years ago I went from the SX30 to the Sony HX100. I just sold my HX100 to buy a SX50.  I was getting frustrated by the lack of support for external flash.  The only up side to the HX100 for me was the scene mode for low-light shooting, but Canon added that scene mode.  So far I'm very happy to be back with Canon.

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Radbul wrote:

Hello all, In Canon SX50 successor (Canon SX60) a must be in my opinion: )Panasonic Lumix FZ200's EVF has a much higher 1.3 million dot resolution- EVF resolution doubled vs SX50 (at least 400,000pixels resolution or better i.e.:  - Recording Full HD with 30fps(finally as 23.9fps now is too stuttery and years behind competition ), 720p with 60fps. (and super speed mode 640x420@120fps, 320x200@300fps would be nice as well but not essential) - Make it faster: at least 2fps with AF(also increase to 4fps with AF/AE lock) It would be really good to have(if not in SX60 then definitively as must be in it's successor Canon SX70 model): - Faster AF with more AF points. - Manual focus ring (like in Fujifilem HS50EXR again nice DSLR feel) - Manual zoom (apart from automatic as an option i.e.: Fujifilem HS50EXR nice DSLR feel) - SD card UHS I standard support.(or maybe even UHS II)
- USB 3.0 support. - Screen 3" with 1,040,000 resolution. - ISO 50-12800 also better in low light (maybe time to use bigger sensor? like 1/8" or 1/1.7") - Optical zoom x60  20mm-1200mm or 22mm-1320mm or 24mm-1440mm Not neccesary but would be nice: - More efficient/more voluminous battery or maybe better 4xAA(as it used to be in SX1 and earlier SX20) - Battery charging through USB 3.0. - Record RAW video in stereo. Canon could actually develop (along SX60) a more "posh" hybrid model SX2 (similar to SX1 few years ago) more expensive but with more options and better materials used.  - price - it can be the same or even more expensive than SX50(but no more than 50%) - - weight, it can be heavier than SX50(but no more than 30%) - dimensions, it can be larger than SX50(but no more than 30%) - resolution, no need to rise above 12.1megapixels (4000x3000) yet but don't downgrade either. I do not care so much about: - Hot shue. - RAW/RAW+JPEG/HDR mode. - amazing articulated vari-angle screen Please do keep at all costs: - Bring back: filters fit 58mm possibility (like in: SX40, SX1, SI5 and earlier models - not documented by Canon but all 58mm filters could be mounted without buying any adaptors) - Flash range 6m or more. - Better weather sealing. - Better panorama/360 degree stitch mode. - Remote control (like in SX1) - Printed user guide. - 2x SD card slots (mode to record movie on one and save photos on other, mirror mode etc.) - GPS chip. - SD card slots accessible while on tripod. All the best
 
 

I don't have a problem with what you would like to see in the SX60 (?) Keep in mind the cost will no doubt increase.

Comparing the FZ200 to the SX50 is not entirely equal when a person considers the difference in cost. I believe the FZ200 is approximatley 200.00 more.  I would expect more if I were paying an additional $200.00 but that is subjective. To each their own.

Also, Not everybody buying an SX50 is going to have Lightroom or PS. The software that Canon provides seems to be a step ahead of the software provided with the FZ200 IMO. This area is covered in DPR's review of both cameras.

Edit, I do not own an SX50 or the FZ200 but I think both are very fine cameras. It's like the old Ford/Chev arguement. Some like Fords, Some like Chevs, Some like Canon, Some like Panasonic or whatever other manufacturer.

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Welcome back, enjoy what is an exceptional camera.

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Thanks for posting, have a great day.
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I also think a good improvement could be the ergonomic and the size of the camera, it's all ugly and unconfortable plastic, it would be much better if they could adjust the grip with rubber rather than plastic and a slightly increase of the size. Different brands like Fujifilm camera of the same range are much better in terms of feeling holding the camera compared with canon's superzoom ones.

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A faster lens, better EVF, better video--I think that's what you all are asking for. I vote for a bigger sensor and less noise...but Canon has to make sure their DSLRs still sell, so don't be surprised if the SX high zoom series always stays a little behind and remains a bridge camera. And just think..what if they put a 75x zoom in this thing with an even better IS--Yeah, now we dreammmmm.

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threed123 wrote:

A faster lens, better EVF, better video--I think that's what you all are asking for. I vote for a bigger sensor and less noise...but Canon has to make sure their DSLRs still sell, so don't be surprised if the SX high zoom series always stays a little behind and remains a bridge camera. And just think..what if they put a 75x zoom in this thing with an even better IS--Yeah, now we dreammmmm.

faster lens , better evf , lose the stupid ISO restrictions and min shutter speed , job done.

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wacka2007 wrote:

threed123 wrote:

A faster lens, better EVF, better video--I think that's what you all are asking for. I vote for a bigger sensor and less noise...but Canon has to make sure their DSLRs still sell, so don't be surprised if the SX high zoom series always stays a little behind and remains a bridge camera. And just think..what if they put a 75x zoom in this thing with an even better IS--Yeah, now we dreammmmm.

faster lens , better evf , lose the stupid ISO restrictions and min shutter speed , job done.

You're right. Fortunately the ISO and minimum speed restrictions were solved by CHDK

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Don`t dream too much! Canon SX60 HS will have the same 50x zoom, same LCD and EVF; only improuvement will be Digic 6 with the capability of movie 1080 60i (I don`t think they will upgrade to 60p)

The lens is the same for 2 generation...so no improvement as I said before and the fact it will be ready in september is a major draw-back because all of us want a new camera in summer.......in september all the vacantion are over. That`s why a lot of people buy others bridges camera because they want la last model on marke for vacantion. In summer, SX50 HS or SX60 HS are allready old cameras. I think the marketing director on Canon...is a little old for this times and he must be replaced by a smarter guy wich see better the needs of clients

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