Viewer 3 : Good and bad...

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Kevin Sutton
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Viewer 3 : Good and bad...
Apr 7, 2013

Hi

Just tried out Viewer 3.  A lot faster than Viewer 2 and much sleeker interface - all good.

Bad news is that 16-bit TIFF's are still stripped of their EXIF metadata. Shame they couldn't get that right.

Cheers Kevin

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In reply to Kevin Sutton, Apr 7, 2013

I dunno, it just looks like mutton dressed up as lamb to me. It's still as cumbersome to use, and still shows jagged edges to previews. There's little there to drag me away from Aperture.

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In reply to Kevin Sutton, Apr 7, 2013

The bad on my side is that it would simply not install on my xp machine. Googled the error - found explanations here on dpreview about installation problems with every single Olympus program at one time or the other. Something about the installer being written by someone with a negative iq.

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In reply to goblin, Apr 8, 2013

goblin wrote:

The bad on my side is that it would simply not install on my xp machine.

Installation worked flawlessly on XP here. Because the test was in a VM, I cannot judge the performance yet...

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How about tethered shooting ?
In reply to Kevin Sutton, Apr 8, 2013

I wonder if it is available on Viewer 3 .

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In reply to Kevin Sutton, Apr 8, 2013

A little bump in speed is great.  The interface and operation have all remained pretty much the same in the raw area...except that maybe the large-ish interface looks like it needs a blacklight to use :).

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goblin wrote:

The bad on my side is that it would simply not install on my xp machine. Googled the error - found explanations here on dpreview about installation problems with every single Olympus program at one time or the other. Something about the installer being written by someone with a negative iq.

I'm using XP Pro with SP2, not SP3 and it installed really fast and worked fine.

Just saying.

But ... 25 seconds to process a RAW into dramatic tone Jpeg!

Mesolithic.

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In reply to Kevin Sutton, Apr 8, 2013

Down loaded the viewer 3 yesterday after reading the treads, start working with it today.

Have to get used to the new software but after you get used to it it seems to be ok!

I will not go back to the viewer 2!

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In reply to klaas-Rotterdam, Apr 8, 2013

"I will not go back to the viewer 2!"

That's the bottom line answer I'm interested in.

I often use Viewer 2.  I don't find it very intuitive, but it's free and its designed to use Olympus filters.

For more sophisticated image processing I use GIMP (powerful and free); UFraw for the ORF.

klaas-Rotterdam wrote:

Down loaded the viewer 3 yesterday after reading the treads, start working with it today.

Have to get used to the new software but after you get used to it it seems to be ok!

I will not go back to the viewer 2!

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In reply to goblin, Apr 9, 2013

goblin wrote:

The bad on my side is that it would simply not install on my xp machine. Googled the error - found explanations here on dpreview about installation problems with every single Olympus program at one time or the other. Something about the installer being written by someone with a negative iq.

As you will read here many people can get it to install on XP.

The big question is - if it doesn't so what? Why expect the latest photo software to work on an outdated 12 yr old OS like XP? It would be like expecting XP software to install on Windows 2.1

Time to upgrade the OS.

If the PC can't handle the newer operating systems then chances are it won't handle the photo software anyway and you will always be upset that it runs too slowly or takes an age to convert a RAW to jpg.

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In reply to AccidntlTourist, Apr 9, 2013

Hi Will,

I always use the “Viewer” software for first processing of my pictures and if I have to do a little bit more to it I will use “PSP 4 pro” for editing (Not free but not to expensive)

It’s just like every software update, you have to get familiar with the options.

After working and getting familiar with the “Viewer 3” I have seen that the software works for me so I will not go back to Viewer “2”.

I use the software on Windows7 and Windows8

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In reply to Kevin Sutton, Apr 9, 2013

I like most of the changes. Seems more intuitive. But they clearly have the same underlying "engine" powering the edits, as they are slow to update changes. The menu items are nice and snappy, however. The fact that it remembers edits is great. It's good to see they have some folks still putting work into this.

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In reply to AussieAndo, Apr 9, 2013

Would it also be fair to say that if using XP the software will lag because that specific system has a graphics card that is old and slower and also the Viewer 3 is geared for a system that has a 1Gb + RAM requirement and faster processor?

I have Viewer 2 on my system but never use it (All processing done using Picasa3) so can someone sell me the reason to use either version please?

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The basic reason to use Viewer is to have a way to make in-camera jpegs from raw after the fact, including the art filters. It also allows further raw editing while keeping the out-of-camera look. And if you shoot a different aspect ratio on the new cameras like the EM5, you can change it in Viewer (Lightroom just shows the raw as the chosen ratio with no option to change it back).

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In reply to jkrumm, Apr 9, 2013

Thanks for that mate  I wasn't aware of that process with RAW.  Sounds like a lot of work., do I have the time??

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Baladam wrote:

I wonder if it is available on Viewer 3 .

Forget it. Nope.

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In reply to goblin, 8 months ago

Software isn't exactly Olympus' thing, is it? And I don't mean PC software only...

Still gets the job done, essentially, like the camera. I don't understand people who think that this is aimed at competing or luring them away from other more advanced (and paid) products. It's a freebie to make sure that you have all you need to get started.

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Hi

The updates to version 3 have included transfer of EXIF data in 16-bit mode.

Thanks to Olympus for listening and fixing it.

Cheers Kevin 

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In reply to Kevin Sutton, 8 months ago

Kevin Sutton wrote:

Hi

The updates to version 3 have included transfer of EXIF data in 16-bit mode.

Thanks to Olympus for listening and fixing it.

Cheers Kevin

I started working with 16-bit files in Viewer 3 until I noticed that the metadata was stripped, so I switched to saving files as Exif-TIFF which are only 8-bit. I've kept Viewer abreast with the latest updates but it wasn't until last night when I went back to using the 16-bit files that I noticed the EXIF info was put back into the file. Yea!

Didn't realize it was a past update. Was wondering if I was hallucinating.  

I'm only using Oly Viewer 3 for the RAW conversion and the automatic distortion correction with my 12-40mm f/2.8. I've only started working with RAW files recently. Since so many users over the years have complimented Master/Studio/Viewer for it's conversion ability while complaining about the clunckiness of the software, I've been doing all the editing in my main program, PSP X6 Ultimate.

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I have been using both V2 and V3 the later is much improved version with a better interface and much faster. BUT they left out e-Portrait bummer if you wanted to post process. As previously stated before there IS a difference in processing RAW & JPG between V3 and LR5 even after they added a profile for Olympus (Natural). If V2 had a copyright capability I would be a happy camper:)

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