Praktina lenses are also compatible

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John Knuhtsen
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Praktina lenses are also compatible
Apr 4, 2013

http://www.rrlens.com/praktina.html

a rather expensive adapter not seen anywhere else.

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina

Now we are with Carl Zeiss Jena in early fifties !

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina_lenses

I just got a Flektogon 35 F/2.8 for Praktina, and got a serious adapter problem, now solved. I will see if it makes any chance for the Sony 35 F/1.8. This Flektogon is also a macro lens ! and one of the first wide angles ever made.

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John Knuhtsen wrote:

http://www.rrlens.com/praktina.html

a rather expensive adapter not seen anywhere else.

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina

Now we are with Carl Zeiss Jena in early fifties !

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina_lenses

I just got a Flektogon 35 F/2.8 for Praktina, and got a serious adapter problem, now solved. I will see if it makes any chance for the Sony 35 F/1.8. This Flektogon is also a macro lens ! and one of the first wide angles ever made.

Thanks for posting. Little worried as it is made of polyamide according to the site, but maybe it doesn't matter. Let us know how does it work with your Flek 35mm f2.8.

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Forgot to mention that (see the adapter link). Although I have not heard of them previously. But it is a sweet story:

http://cameras.alfredklomp.com/werramatic/

(manufactured in the Ernst Abbe Werk of Eisfeld)

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John Knuhtsen wrote:

Forgot to mention that (see the adapter link). Although I have not heard of them previously.

Many hidden gems for Altix and Werra too. Psst

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Quite a pricey adapter - but if your Flek is anything like as good as the later models, it is probably worth trying. My f2.4 M42 version is probably my most versatile lens, given great rendering all round, and its approx 1:2 magnification close focus.

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I have read somewhere that the 35 F/2.8 is better than the F/2.4. Written by a photographer having both. The 35 F/2.4 was made by Cosina (known for Voigtländer, not a bad reputation), where the F/2.8 is a real Jena. I have a 28 mm CZJ having the same modern house (it might as well be a Cosina) as the 35 F/2.4, so I wanted something different this time (and more rare, but I bought it serviced).

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I have read somewhere that the 35 F/2.8 is better than the F/2.4. Written by a photographer having both. The 35 F/2.4 was made by Cosina (known for Voigtländer, not a bad reputation), where the F/2.8 is a real Jena. I have a 28 mm CZJ having the same modern house (it might as well be a Cosina) as the 35 F/2.4, so I wanted something different this time (and more rare, but I bought it serviced).

If it is better than the F2.4 version, then it really would be excellent. My 1980s copy does have good mechanics, an extra half stop speed, very good centre sharpness and bokeh wide open, and multi-coating, as well as the more flexible M42 mount (I have used it both on my NEX 5N and a newly acquired 1970s Pentax Spotmatic F).

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I have read somewhere that the 35 F/2.8 is better than the F/2.4.

Hard to say which is better, they are different. 35 f2.4 MC has 6 elements in 6 groups, multi-coating, resulting in better contrast and flare resistance and it is sharper and lighter. Flek 35 f2.8 has few variants "silver" and Zebra" being most common. With 6 elements in 5 groups, it is single coated, suffer from flare, has lower contrast but even smoother bokeh than f2.4. While 35 f2.4 is certainly better lens optically, f2.8 has more of a vintage character.

Written by a photographer having both. The 35 F/2.4 was made by Cosina (known for Voigtländer, not a bad reputation), where the F/2.8 is a real Jena.

As far as I know and my f2.4 clearly state on the barrel - it is made in D.D.R - former Eastern Germany. I would be honestly surprise if they had anything to do with Cosina that time. It's a typical Carl Zeiss Jena DDR lens.

I have a 28 mm CZJ having the same modern house (it might as well be a Cosina) as the 35 F/2.4, so I wanted something different this time (and more rare, but I bought it serviced).

That's a good idea, they will render differently.

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Thank you for some deep insight ! It is not so likely that I buy a F/2.4 also, but maybe. My Jena fascination goes back to 1978, where I bought a binocular from them: 10x50. It  was really fantastic for birding. Nice colours and brilliant sharpness to an extent that I had never seen before. Maybe with an ocular a bit too short. But compact built overall.  The only drawback is, that I am getting older, and it is not for people with glasses. The eye-relief is only 10 mm. So glasses are placed in the hair.

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verybiglebowski wrote:

John Knuhtsen wrote:

The 35 F/2.4 was made by Cosina (known for Voigtländer, not a bad reputation), where the F/2.8 is a real Jena.

As far as I know and my f2.4 clearly state on the barrel - it is made in D.D.R - former Eastern Germany. I would be honestly surprise if they had anything to do with Cosina that time. It's a typical Carl Zeiss Jena DDR lens.

I would be very surprised too if this lens was imported from Japan, since in those days of the Soviet era, D.D.R. was constantly suffering from currency limitations and all imports were etremely restricted.

To the contrary, Zeiss Jena lenses at the time were some of D.D.R.s most important export goods, exported (under slightly different brands) to a large number of countries globally.

Please also note that back then, Cosina was a manufacturer of budget SLR-lenses of rather mediocre or even poor quality. Later, the Cosina company took a strategic turn, focusing on high end Voigtländer and Zeiss lenses. That was some time after the demise of the Berlin wall (and D.D.R.), though.

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John Knuhtsen wrote:

Forgot to mention that (see the adapter link). Although I have not heard of them previously. But it is a sweet story:

http://cameras.alfredklomp.com/werramatic/

(manufactured in the Ernst Abbe Werk of Eisfeld)

http://cameras.alfredklomp.com/werramatic/2.jpg

Thanks a lot for that link - Somehow I never heard about Werra before - and those cameras are indeed stylish and sleek and with a release date around 1954 they were quite a bit ahead of their time in terms of overall design, I would say.

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Actually, this brand is called Praktica, it's probably just a typo, but others might be confused

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John Knuhtsen wrote:

http://www.rrlens.com/praktina.html

a rather expensive adapter not seen anywhere else.

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina

Now we are with Carl Zeiss Jena in early fifties !

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina_lenses

I just got a Flektogon 35 F/2.8 for Praktina, and got a serious adapter problem, now solved. I will see if it makes any chance for the Sony 35 F/1.8. This Flektogon is also a macro lens ! and one of the first wide angles ever made.

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sergerez wrote:

Actually, this brand is called Praktica, it's probably just a typo, but others might be confused

Regards,

Serge

Actually not! Discussed here are lenses for Praktina. I know about 3 Praktina cameras - Praktina, Praktina Fx and Practina IIa. Maybe there were some other models, I am not sure.

John Knuhtsen wrote:

http://www.rrlens.com/praktina.html

a rather expensive adapter not seen anywhere else.

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina

Now we are with Carl Zeiss Jena in early fifties !

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina_lenses

I just got a Flektogon 35 F/2.8 for Praktina, and got a serious adapter problem, now solved. I will see if it makes any chance for the Sony 35 F/1.8. This Flektogon is also a macro lens ! and one of the first wide angles ever made.

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Oops... sorry, you're right. Just my ignorance: never heard of that "predecessor" of newer Praktica M42 lenses.

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sergerez wrote:

Actually, this brand is called Praktica, it's probably just a typo, but others might be confused

Regards,

Serge

Actually not! Discussed here are lenses for Praktina. I know about 3 Praktina cameras - Praktina, Praktina Fx and Practina IIa. Maybe there were some other models, I am not sure.

John Knuhtsen wrote:

http://www.rrlens.com/praktina.html

a rather expensive adapter not seen anywhere else.

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina

Now we are with Carl Zeiss Jena in early fifties !

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina_lenses

I just got a Flektogon 35 F/2.8 for Praktina, and got a serious adapter problem, now solved. I will see if it makes any chance for the Sony 35 F/1.8. This Flektogon is also a macro lens ! and one of the first wide angles ever made.

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John Knuhtsen wrote:

http://www.rrlens.com/praktina.html

a rather expensive adapter not seen anywhere else.

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina

Now we are with Carl Zeiss Jena in early fifties !

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina_lenses

I just got a Flektogon 35 F/2.8 for Praktina, and got a serious adapter problem, now solved. I will see if it makes any chance for the Sony 35 F/1.8. This Flektogon is also a macro lens ! and one of the first wide angles ever made.

Not wanting to start an arguement, I am just trying to recall my camera history.  Isn't Prakina an East German version of a Carl Zeiss 'Contaflex' and were built and sold much cheaper?  As a highschool student, I think I wanted one once because that was all I felt I could afford.  At this time in my life, I don't think I would touch one though because communist countries had quality issues.

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No shipping to Australia.  Anywhere else?

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verybiglebowski wrote:

John Knuhtsen wrote:

I have read somewhere that the 35 F/2.8 is better than the F/2.4.

Hard to say which is better, they are different. 35 f2.4 MC has 6 elements in 6 groups, multi-coating, resulting in better contrast and flare resistance and it is sharper and lighter. Flek 35 f2.8 has few variants "silver" and Zebra" being most common. With 6 elements in 5 groups, it is single coated, suffer from flare, has lower contrast but even smoother bokeh than f2.4. While 35 f2.4 is certainly better lens optically, f2.8 has more of a vintage character.

Written by a photographer having both. The 35 F/2.4 was made by Cosina (known for Voigtländer, not a bad reputation), where the F/2.8 is a real Jena.

As far as I know and my f2.4 clearly state on the barrel - it is made in D.D.R - former Eastern Germany. I would be honestly surprise if they had anything to do with Cosina that time. It's a typical Carl Zeiss Jena DDR lens.

I have a 28 mm CZJ having the same modern house (it might as well be a Cosina) as the 35 F/2.4, so I wanted something different this time (and more rare, but I bought it serviced).

That's a good idea, they will render differently.

I have the CZJ 20mm f4.0 and also the MIR 20A 20mm f3.5 both in M42 and Flektogon.  Both great lenses and can be recommended without having to recourse to less-common adapters.  Big heavy flying saucers and great to have, park them lens down when on camera, there is no other way.

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Praktina, the first system camera, comprehensive information about the cameras, system, lenses:

http://www.praktina.com/h04_main.htm

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Praktina is "funny" three equal-size lug bayonet mount thing.  I also have the Meyer Telefogar of some renown but it is Altix mount (almost exclusively). Some home engineered mount conversions about.  Thought it worth a try from this Dresden site but they don't ship to Australia, maybe even not outside Germany at all.  I have some reservations about the adapter material as well.

Meyer made some of their lenses with simple exchangeable adapter ends for Praktina, M42 and Exakta, but only for certain telephoto lenses as far as I know.

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JPG wrote:

John Knuhtsen wrote:

http://www.rrlens.com/praktina.html

a rather expensive adapter not seen anywhere else.

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina

Now we are with Carl Zeiss Jena in early fifties !

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Praktina_lenses

I just got a Flektogon 35 F/2.8 for Praktina, and got a serious adapter problem, now solved. I will see if it makes any chance for the Sony 35 F/1.8. This Flektogon is also a macro lens ! and one of the first wide angles ever made.

Not wanting to start an arguement, I am just trying to recall my camera history.  Isn't Prakina an East German version of a Carl Zeiss 'Contaflex' and were built and sold much cheaper?  As a highschool student, I think I wanted one once because that was all I felt I could afford.  At this time in my life, I don't think I would touch one though because communist countries had quality issues.

Myself, I have a good number of Meyer-Optik lenses and I have found them well made and good performers.  Ssssh! don't tell anyone or the price will go up.  Uh-huh ... the Meyer Trioplan 100mm 2.8 has already been found .... drats   ...  Simple, and they can be found in common or garden M42 while you are at it.

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