D7100 - I need help solving the "green shadows" in skin tones problem

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D7100 - I need help solving the "green shadows" in skin tones problem
Apr 3, 2013

Hi Folks:

I'm in a real dilemma and have decided to make it known on this forum and enlist your help.

Here's the situation: My 15-day trial period for this D7100 is over tomorrow (Thursday), but I still have a huge problem to solve and I'm essentially out of time. My immediate work commitments prevent me from spending any more time with the camera or in post processing until this Friday at the earliest. The problem I am having with the camera is so unacceptable to me that I cannot live with it, and last night while I still had some free time available, I returned the camera to the store for a refund, which I got.

However, I have fallen in love with this camera for my primary purpose, which is wildlife photography, and I do not want to give it up. Yet, if I can't solve this particular problem I can't keep the camera. Today I plan on calling the camera store and asking them to hold the camera for a few more days and if my new-found friends on the dpreview forum, or anybody else, can find a good work-around, I'll repurchase the camera on the weekend. If not, I'll wait for Canon's answer to the D7100 and see what it does.

OK, so here's the problem... it's the dreaded "green shadows" issue that I was told by every staff member at the camera store last night, has been the bain and Achilles heel of many Nikon camera models over the years. Of course, it's especially unacceptable in skin tones, which is where I am having the problem. Yesterday I took over a hundred shots of my wife in natural, indirect light at various exposures and they all had green shadows, and of course, the darker the exposure the worse the shadows. I have posted one example below of what I think is a reasonably well exposed shot. Unfortunately, I no longer have that particular NEF file, but I do have a few others that I didn't delete before returning the camera.

Regarding the green shadows problem, here's what mosswings wrote in this forum 3 days ago:

The D7100 is a camera designed to support computational photography.  It's not all about absolute noise levels as much anymore. It's about the options that you have in working with the file.

  • Need super-low noise levels for a landscape? Do a 16 shot high speed burst and align and average in post for another stop or so lower noise level.
  • Got minor pattern noise? Pattern-aware NR plugins make short work of it.
  • Worried about loss of perceived sharpness in a print by downsizing?  It doesn't quite work that simply. Higher resolution means better estimation of the edge brightness levels in the print.
  • Got greenish deep shadows?  Er, well, uhm, get Nikon to stop clipping its blacks. THAT's a potential problem with the D7100."

Yep, that's a potential problem alright, it's certainly a deal-breaker for me, and since I can't get Nikon to stop clipping the blacks, I need a good post processing work-around solution.

If I may pass on what I think are a couple of important observations that are relevant to the type of solution I am looking for.... I believe I need primarily a post processing solution more so than a Nikon in-camera setting solution. I need to find a good processing technique, especially in Photoshop CS5 which I know and own and have used in our web design business for years.

Here are my observations and why I say this:

1) When I view the NEF files in View NX2 the green shadows are quite visible and pronounced.

2) When I convert the NEF files to high quality JPEGs and open them in Photoshop the green shadows are completely gone, the skin-tone shadows look fabulous, nice rich smooth skin-colours and good gradients. No complaints there at all.

3) Then when I convert the Photoshop file to a JPEG and upload it to Flickr the whole thing looks awful once again. Flickr automatically makes images darker and adds contrast, so on critical images I always lighten them up and de-contrast them before uploading in order to compensate for this, and I often make 3-4 adjustments and uploads to get it just right. The problem is that in order to get rid of the green shadows I have to globally lighten, reduce contrast, reduce green and add red so much that the rest of the image looks terrible.

Flickr is the number place where I post my images. I like the interface and especially the community I'm a part of so whatever images I produce in the future have to work on Flickr.

In summary:

While I'm certainly interested in knowing about any in-camera settings, etc., that will minimize the creation of green shadows with this camera, more importantly I need a good PP tutorial on how to make green shadows less green and more natural, I really need it for the expensive, powerful tool I already own, which is Photoshop CS5. As I said, I really love this camera for wildlife photography.., I've had more fun and excitement shooting those BIF in the last 2 weeks than I've had in a long time. And yes, I have thought that in time I'll probably take the plunge and get some high-quality lenses. I'm pretty sure the camera shop will hold onto the camera for me for a few more days in hopes that I can find a PP solution to mitigating these green shadows. If I can find one, I'll re-purchase the camera, if not, I'll have to leave it there.

P.S. If you do a search for my posts in this particular forum you will see that one of my first ones almost 2 weeks ago was an inquiry about the pronounced green shadows under the chin of a person's portrait. Plus, given everything that people are saying, including mosswings, this is a BIG problem for a lot of people. Therefore, by working together to find a good green-shadow-busting PP solution, you would be helping not just me keep this camera, but apparently many others as well. Well anyways, that's it, I'm done... here's hoping.

Thanks for your time and your help,

Rudy

My wife Marny for the past 41 years.... (..don't know how she put up with me that long!)

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I seen no green shadows - in fact the skin tone looks great to me - my monitor is calibrated and wonder if that's where your problem lies?

All the best & hope you can resolve this.

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Same here. Colors look ok on calibrated system.

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Same here, either the problem is in your eyes or your color managed workflow. 

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Here's a quick exercise for you: get your wife where you shot that image, same lighting and look carefully at her face, including the darker areas. How do they look? You may be surprised how our eyes fool us when we have a general look at a subject, it filters the "defects".

Now, if you really want to have fine control over color tones, you need to work a bit with greypoint WB tools in RAW. And with the various profiles.

Portrait actually gives the best overall result for skintones with the D7000. Standard is a bit too harsh and misses delicate nuances, others are out of question (Neutral may be used, but will show even more green overtones).

I once ran a careful test with D7000, CNX2 and ACR, varying profiles, WB and tint/hue tool. Usually I use Portrait and do a little WB adjustment with grey point, a little more blue and a little less red in the tint/hue control.

BTW: I don't think the black point issue has anything with that.

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Whalligeo wrote:

Same here. Colors look ok on calibrated system.

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It's either the monitor..........workflow? It sure ain't the camera.

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UtenteMac wrote:

Same here, either the problem is in your eyes or your color managed workflow. 

Thanks for your reply.

How do account for the fact that the same images viewed on the same monitor look great in Photoshop, but look terrible in View NX2 and on Flickr?

By the way, we own a desktop publishing/graphics/web design/video production company and work only on high-end, calibrated monitors.

Also, if it's not a problem why do so many people say it is?

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... anyways, for the sake of finding a solution, can we just assume that at least some people have this problem, and given that, how do we selectively get rid of the dog-gone green shadows? Any suggestions?

Rudy

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RudyPohl wrote:

Hi Folks:

I'm in a real dilemma and have decided to make it known on this forum and enlist your help.

Here's the situation: My 15-day trial period for this D7100 is over tomorrow (Thursday), but I still have a huge problem to solve and I'm essentially out of time. My immediate work commitments prevent me from spending any more time with the camera or in post processing until this Friday at the earliest. The problem I am having with the camera is so unacceptable to me that I cannot live with it, and last night while I still had some free time available, I returned the camera to the store for a refund, which I got.

So far every problem you have had with the camera was not an actual hardware problem or defect. You also often simply don't have time for for folks to help you and blow off their initial request for info with a "I'm to busy" remark. Your underexposure problem, for example, could have been solved easily had you actually participated in the discussion and taken a little well intentioned advice.

However, I have fallen in love with this camera for my primary purpose, which is wildlife photography, and I do not want to give it up. Yet, if I can't solve this particular problem I can't keep the camera. Today I plan on calling the camera store and asking them to hold the camera for a few more days and if my new-found friends on the dpreview forum, or anybody else, can find a good work-around, I'll repurchase the camera on the weekend. If not, I'll wait for Canon's answer to the D7100 and see what it does.

Moving to a different manufacture will have little effect on solving many of the issues. You simply do not know DSLR's well enough yet to overcome many issues you have.

OK, so here's the problem... it's the dreaded "green shadows" issue that I was told by every staff member at the camera store last night, has been the bain and Achilles heel of many Nikon camera models over the years.

Here again, you simply don't have enough background or information to know the staff is a bit off on their own knowledge level.

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It seems that I'm seeing another round of "my Nikon produces incorrect colors" and "my Nikon images are green" comments in my In Box. If I'm counting correctly, this is the third time this Internet meme has come around since the D3.

If these statements were absolutely true, then all you'd have to do to verify them is go to any magazine using pro work and you could spot the green Nikon images from the (assumed) non-green Canon ones. Go ahead, pick up a Sports Illustrated or Time or People or National Geographic or any other magazine using work from pros using Nikon and Canon DSLRs. See the green images? Didn't think so.

Before we go too much further, let's separate the issue a bit. I see two variations on the Kermit Syndrome: (1) the color on the camera's LCD; and (2) the color in the resulting image....

....Which brings us to the images themselves. I first heard about "color issues" with Nikon DSLRs when the D1 came out ;~). I actually spent a great deal of time traveling around to various different photographers and pro shops "fixing" their color. My tool? A Macbeth ColorChecker chart, something I'd owned and been using for decades even back at the turn of the century. A ColorChecker chart is certified to be known colors. So if you take a picture of it, just follow it through the chain and you'll quickly find what's causing your color issues.

Right up front was White Balance. If you don't get White Balance right, you'll be rotating red and blue around green and guaranteeing that colors move. Each Nikon sensor has had a tendency to have a slightly different zero balance point, meaning that the rotation starts at a different color temperature, typically just below 5000K. Differences in red, green, and blue Bayer filtering can make small differences, too. Bottom line: get the White Balance right.

Next up was camera settings. Let's just say that the Rockwell Picture Control, uh, I mean Vivid, isn't color neutral. I'm not sure why you'd expect Vivid to be color neutral when there's a Picture Control named Neutral, but apparently some of you do (and in old Nikon bodies we had a different variation of this: Color Mode).

At this point we've got a JPEG that should be color neutral because we've captured it right, so the color monitor you're using to edit becomes the next possible culprit. Sure enough, I found a lot of folk who didn't have a calibrated monitor (or a monitor that could even display all the colors the camera could capture in sRGB; see comment about the camera LCD, above).

It doesn't stop there, though. Who's handling color for printing, and what does the printer do? I had one client who had a high end (commercial) printer and was having D1x color issues early on. Turns out the printer driver was inserting its own definition of how things should be interpreted. I made an adjustment to that driver and we had perfect color.

The net result of following that chain correctly is that you should be able to take a picture of a ColorChecker, print the results, cut out small color patches from the print and drop them onto the original ColorChecker, and they'll disappear. Since I've been able to do that with every Nikon DSLR made to date, I fail to see how they're "green."

Oh, but wait, what raw converter did you use? Let me guess: Adobe. Let me guess further: you used the Adobe Standard Camera Profile. Go back to the Basic tab in Adobe Raw Converter. Notice that second slider under White Balance? Tint is labeled Green at the left side, Magenta at the right. Do you have a significantly negative number there? Yep, you've got a green image. I've learned to mistrust Adobe's White Balance interpretation if I'm seeing large numbers in the Tint section. (And don't get me started on the over-abundance of Orange saturation in most Adobe conversions.)

I'm tempted to say that my Nikon DSLRs are more of a Fozzie Bear: they're always joking around with focus and my Nikkor lenses tend to make wocka wocka noises (buh-duh-bump). But my Nikon DSLRs are definitely not Kermits. Neither are yours.

Of course, it's especially unacceptable in skin tones, which is where I am having the problem.

Yes...you are having a problem but it's really not a camera issue.

Regarding the green shadows problem, here's what mosswings wrote in this forum 3 days ago:

The D7100 is a camera designed to support computational photography.  It's not all about absolute noise levels as much anymore. It's about the options that you have in working with the file.

  • Need super-low noise levels for a landscape? Do a 16 shot high speed burst and align and average in post for another stop or so lower noise level.
  • Got minor pattern noise? Pattern-aware NR plugins make short work of it.
  • Worried about loss of perceived sharpness in a print by downsizing?  It doesn't quite work that simply. Higher resolution means better estimation of the edge brightness levels in the print.
  • Got greenish deep shadows?  Er, well, uhm, get Nikon to stop clipping its blacks. THAT's a potential problem with the D7100."

Yep, that's a potential problem alright, it's certainly a deal-breaker for me, and since I can't get Nikon to stop clipping the blacks, I need a good post processing work-around solution.

Give up as I don't think you be able to work through this "issue" well

Here are my observations and why I say this:

1) When I view the NEF files in View NX2 the green shadows are quite visible and pronounced.

Calibrate your monitor and choose your in camera picture controls more wisely. You also have the color space set up wrong on your camera for your current work flow. I pointed that out to you in another thread. Did you not take action?

2) When I convert the NEF files to high quality JPEGs and open them in Photoshop the green shadows are completely gone, the skin-tone shadows look fabulous, nice rich smooth skin-colours and good gradients. No complaints there at all.

Color space...read up

3) Then when I convert the Photoshop file to a JPEG and upload it to Flickr the whole thing looks awful once again. Flickr automatically makes images darker and adds contrast, so on critical images I always lighten them up and de-contrast them before uploading in order to compensate for this, and I often make 3-4 adjustments and uploads to get it just right. The problem is that in order to get rid of the green shadows I have to globally lighten, reduce contrast, reduce green and add red so much that the rest of the image looks terrible.

Color space, I think.  Try staying with sRGB till you figure it out.

In summary:

.I'm pretty sure the camera shop will hold onto the camera for me for a few more days in hopes that I can find a PP solution to mitigating these green shadows. If I can find one, I'll re-purchase the camera, if not, I'll have to leave it there.

I would not bother unless your committed to learn how to actually use the body (regardless of brand) and learn some of the basics of work flow.

P.S. If you do a search for my posts in this particular forum you will see that one of my first ones almost 2 weeks ago was an inquiry about the pronounced green shadows under the chin of a person's portrait.

Go back and re-read that thread. It wasn't a camera issue after all.  Just as is the case with the example below.

Thanks for your time and your help,

Rudy

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RudyPohl wrote:

UtenteMac wrote:

Same here, either the problem is in your eyes or your color managed workflow. 

Thanks for your reply.

How do account for the fact that the same images viewed on the same monitor look great in Photoshop, but look terrible in View NX2 and on Flickr?

Your camera (and the picture above) is setup in AdobeRGB. Try matching your work space properly for that. Is your Browser set up for Adobe RGB...I don't think flicker converts.

By the way, we own a desktop publishing/graphics/web design/video production company and work only on high-end, calibrated monitors.

Is you ViewNX2 configured for AdobeRGB. Doesn't appear so. Also, you should be converting to sRGB for the web and proofing based on that before upload.

Also, if it's not a problem why do so many people say it is?

Kermit Syndrome and a lack of understanding...Might be an effect of global warming too but not sure on that one Good luck, with all due respect.

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RudyPohl wrote:

... anyways, for the sake of finding a solution, can we just assume that at least some people have this problem, and given that, how do we selectively get rid of the dog-gone green shadows? Any suggestions?

Rudy

Aren't an issue. See below

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RudyPohl wrote:

Hi Folks:

I'm in a real dilemma and have decided to make it known on this forum and enlist your help.

Here's the situation: My 15-day trial period for this D7100 is over tomorrow (Thursday), but I still have a huge problem to solve and I'm essentially out of time. My immediate work commitments prevent me from spending any more time with the camera or in post processing until this Friday at the earliest. The problem I am having with the camera is so unacceptable to me that I cannot live with it, and last night while I still had some free time available, I returned the camera to the store for a refund, which I got.

However, I have fallen in love with this camera for my primary purpose, which is wildlife photography, and I do not want to give it up. Yet, if I can't solve this particular problem I can't keep the camera. Today I plan on calling the camera store and asking them to hold the camera for a few more days and if my new-found friends on the dpreview forum, or anybody else, can find a good work-around, I'll repurchase the camera on the weekend. If not, I'll wait for Canon's answer to the D7100 and see what it does.

OK, so here's the problem... it's the dreaded "green shadows" issue that I was told by every staff member at the camera store last night, has been the bain and Achilles heel of many Nikon camera models over the years. Of course, it's especially unacceptable in skin tones, which is where I am having the problem. Yesterday I took over a hundred shots of my wife in natural, indirect light at various exposures and they all had green shadows, and of course, the darker the exposure the worse the shadows. I have posted one example below of what I think is a reasonably well exposed shot. Unfortunately, I no longer have that particular NEF file, but I do have a few others that I didn't delete before returning the camera.

Regarding the green shadows problem, here's what mosswings wrote in this forum 3 days ago:

The D7100 is a camera designed to support computational photography.  It's not all about absolute noise levels as much anymore. It's about the options that you have in working with the file.

  • Need super-low noise levels for a landscape? Do a 16 shot high speed burst and align and average in post for another stop or so lower noise level.
  • Got minor pattern noise? Pattern-aware NR plugins make short work of it.
  • Worried about loss of perceived sharpness in a print by downsizing?  It doesn't quite work that simply. Higher resolution means better estimation of the edge brightness levels in the print.
  • Got greenish deep shadows?  Er, well, uhm, get Nikon to stop clipping its blacks. THAT's a potential problem with the D7100."

Yep, that's a potential problem alright, it's certainly a deal-breaker for me, and since I can't get Nikon to stop clipping the blacks, I need a good post processing work-around solution.

If I may pass on what I think are a couple of important observations that are relevant to the type of solution I am looking for.... I believe I need primarily a post processing solution more so than a Nikon in-camera setting solution. I need to find a good processing technique, especially in Photoshop CS5 which I know and own and have used in our web design business for years.

Here are my observations and why I say this:

1) When I view the NEF files in View NX2 the green shadows are quite visible and pronounced.

2) When I convert the NEF files to high quality JPEGs and open them in Photoshop the green shadows are completely gone, the skin-tone shadows look fabulous, nice rich smooth skin-colours and good gradients. No complaints there at all.

3) Then when I convert the Photoshop file to a JPEG and upload it to Flickr the whole thing looks awful once again. Flickr automatically makes images darker and adds contrast, so on critical images I always lighten them up and de-contrast them before uploading in order to compensate for this, and I often make 3-4 adjustments and uploads to get it just right. The problem is that in order to get rid of the green shadows I have to globally lighten, reduce contrast, reduce green and add red so much that the rest of the image looks terrible.

Flickr is the number place where I post my images. I like the interface and especially the community I'm a part of so whatever images I produce in the future have to work on Flickr.

In summary:

While I'm certainly interested in knowing about any in-camera settings, etc., that will minimize the creation of green shadows with this camera, more importantly I need a good PP tutorial on how to make green shadows less green and more natural, I really need it for the expensive, powerful tool I already own, which is Photoshop CS5. As I said, I really love this camera for wildlife photography.., I've had more fun and excitement shooting those BIF in the last 2 weeks than I've had in a long time. And yes, I have thought that in time I'll probably take the plunge and get some high-quality lenses. I'm pretty sure the camera shop will hold onto the camera for me for a few more days in hopes that I can find a PP solution to mitigating these green shadows. If I can find one, I'll re-purchase the camera, if not, I'll have to leave it there.

P.S. If you do a search for my posts in this particular forum you will see that one of my first ones almost 2 weeks ago was an inquiry about the pronounced green shadows under the chin of a person's portrait. Plus, given everything that people are saying, including mosswings, this is a BIG problem for a lot of people. Therefore, by working together to find a good green-shadow-busting PP solution, you would be helping not just me keep this camera, but apparently many others as well. Well anyways, that's it, I'm done... here's hoping.

Thanks for your time and your help,

Rudy

My wife Marny for the past 41 years.... (..don't know how she put up with me that long!)

I don't use a high end monitor, but it is recently calibrated using xrite, and I do see an overall slight green tint. I'm wondering if the difference people are seeing could be due to the type of display they're using. In other words lcd vs led etc?

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Mako2011 wrote:

Go back and re-read that thread. It wasn't a camera issue after all.  Just as is the case with the example below.

Thanks for your detailed reply Mako, sorry if I hit a nerve and offended you, it certainly was not my intention.

I don't know what you expect from a guy like me? I've just invested $2K in a camera and lens, which may not seem like much to others, but it's a heck of a lot to me. I have 2 weeks to try out this rig to see if I can handle it and it can do what I'm looking for, but despite having given it many dozens of hours of time (I've taken 5 full days off work to do this) I'm now fresh out of time. Sorry if that annoys you, but that's the reality I'm facing.

By the way, I'm not out of patience or effort or willingness to try, which is why I am more than ready to buy the camera back if I get get the green shadows issues resolved with the software I currently own.

What I am not willing to do is keep a camera on the hopes that this problem will get resolved, especially when people like mosswings, the camera store staff, and others posting on forums say that this is in fact a problem. I'm not imagining it.

Anyways, we'll see what happens.

Rudy

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My wife Marny for the past 41 years.... (..don't know how she put up with me that long!)

I don't use a high end monitor, but it is recently calibrated using xrite, and I do see an overall slight green tint. I'm wondering if the difference people are seeing could be due to the type of display they're using. In other words lcd vs led etc?

Is your browser and monitor set up to properly display  AdobeRGB?

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Mako2011 wrote:

Go back and re-read that thread. It wasn't a camera issue after all.  Just as is the case with the example below.

Thanks for your detailed reply Mako, sorry if I hit a nerve and offended you, it certainly was not my intention.

I don't know what you expect from a guy like me? I've just invested $2K in a camera and lens, which may not seem like much to others, but it's a heck of a lot to me. I have 2 weeks to try out this rig to see if I can handle it and it can do what I'm looking for, but despite having given it many dozens of hours of time (I've taken 5 full days off work to do this) I'm now fresh out of time. Sorry if that annoys you, but that's the reality I'm facing.

Not at all...simply take a little advice. I will admit though the "I'm crazy-busy" post I found frustrating.  The camera really does not have a problem. It never under exposed, as an example. It does not have a green issue as another example.

By the way, I'm not out of patience or effort or willingness to try, which is why I am more than ready to buy the camera back if I get get the green shadows issues resolved with the software I currently own.

No issue...did you read my post on that? Did you check your ViewNX2 Color management settings and adjust your workflow for flicker? What browser are you using?

What I am not willing to do is keep a camera on the hopes that this problem will get resolved, especially when people like mosswings, the camera store staff, and others posting on forums say that this is in fact a problem. I'm not imagining it.

No you are not imagining an issue.. but your are not understanding it and why it isn't actually a problem regards how the camera operates.

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My wife Marny for the past 41 years.... (..don't know how she put up with me that long!)

I don't use a high end monitor, but it is recently calibrated using xrite, and I do see an overall slight green tint. I'm wondering if the difference people are seeing could be due to the type of display they're using. In other words lcd vs led etc?

Is your browser and monitor set up to properly display  AdobeRGB?

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No mako, its a calibrated cheapie monitor, but of course that's what the great unwashed have in the main.

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Mako2011 wrote:

fotolopithecus wrote:


My wife Marny for the past 41 years.... (..don't know how she put up with me that long!)

I don't use a high end monitor, but it is recently calibrated using xrite, and I do see an overall slight green tint. I'm wondering if the difference people are seeing could be due to the type of display they're using. In other words lcd vs led etc?

Is your browser and monitor set up to properly display  AdobeRGB?

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No mako, its a calibrated cheapie monitor, but of course that's what the great unwashed have in the main.

Me too my friend...but I do profile for my printer and sRGB. This pic though is not in sRGB so is not being displayed accurately on our monitors perhaps. May not be the whole issue but something to consider.

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Same here. Colors look ok on calibrated system.

+3 or 4

It's either the monitor..........workflow? It sure ain't the camera.

I don't see it either...haven't seen it in any examples either unless I use my imagination and bias i.e., you see what you think you should see

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A different problem that was posed somewhere on this forum was too much noise from the D7100. I took a great shot of a friend and her son at a kids birthday party and then printed it at Costco for a princely sum of $10 at 20x30". The largest practical size I might go to. No noise when viewed at normal distances .....

One of the problems we have is a plethora of monitors set to all kinds of different settings. Suggest you print the photo, it does not have to be a 20x30", an 8x10 will do and see if it looks green. Of course there are plethora of different printers .....

This is my sanity test.

I use an uncalibrated macbook pro from mid 2009 and I could not see green. Good luck.

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fotolopithecus wrote:

Mako2011 wrote:

fotolopithecus wrote:


My wife Marny for the past 41 years.... (..don't know how she put up with me that long!)

I don't use a high end monitor, but it is recently calibrated using xrite, and I do see an overall slight green tint. I'm wondering if the difference people are seeing could be due to the type of display they're using. In other words lcd vs led etc?

Is your browser and monitor set up to properly display  AdobeRGB?

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No mako, its a calibrated cheapie monitor, but of course that's what the great unwashed have in the main.

Me too my friend...but I do profile for my printer and sRGB. This pic though is not in sRGB so is not being displayed accurately on our monitors perhaps. May not be the whole issue but something to consider.

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If memory serves, and sometimes it doesn't, I'm not sure if flickr is capable of anything but sRGB. It's amazing how quickly I forget stuff. About two years ago I bought a proper monitor, and wound up sending it back when I realized everyone using the older non led monitors were seeing things entirely differently from me even involving the exposure. In fact given the vagaries of monitors it's a wonder we can agree on anything we look at.

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