Future of Pentax?

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noel2
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Future of Pentax?
Mar 29, 2013

Many years ago, having invested in a number of excellent A* Pentax lenses, I was waiting for Pentax to look foreward and enter the digital mode to do justice to the quality of its optics.

I then seriously considered getting rid of my Equipment and following the more progressive and "market oriented" , though more expensive and less "photographically" oriented competition.

I have nevertheless remained with Pentax up to now. I still use the A* lenses - which are among the best ever produced for photography - and use them with the available APS-C bodies that Pentax produces.

But, if Pentax does not follow the trend to use The FF sensors that are becoming available, and capitalize on its older experience, I am very pessimistic as to the future of the company to keep a good place in the current market.

I have been recently looking at a number of internet retailers for photographic Equipment, and Pentax has disappeared from from their offers (it was formerly in their catalogue). It is not a good sign for the future - and requires an answer.

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In reply to noel2, Mar 29, 2013

My guess -- most of us on the forum are optimistic.

Little spoken fear that the company is in trouble.

The K5, K5 II, etc have been well received.

The company has said enough to make one believe that a ff is around the corner.

Hopefully before May comes upon us we will know more.

Could the y make a mistake -- sure.

Will they make a mistake -- I for one doubt it.

I have only one A lens (the 200 macro) and I can see more in my future!

John

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noel2 wrote:

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I have been recently looking at a number of internet retailers for photographic Equipment, and Pentax has disappeared from from their offers (it was formerly in their catalogue). It is not a good sign for the future - and requires an answer.

Which internet retailers are you referring to?  As everyone else here knows, the three biggest in the USA (B&H, Adorama, Amazon.com) carry essentially everything Pentax makes.

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noel2 wrote:

Many years ago, having invested in a number of excellent A* Pentax lenses, I was waiting for Pentax to look foreward and enter the digital mode to do justice to the quality of its optics.

I then seriously considered getting rid of my Equipment and following the more progressive and "market oriented" , though more expensive and less "photographically" oriented competition.

I have nevertheless remained with Pentax up to now. I still use the A* lenses - which are among the best ever produced for photography - and use them with the available APS-C bodies that Pentax produces.

But, if Pentax does not follow the trend to use The FF sensors that are becoming available, and capitalize on its older experience, I am very pessimistic as to the future of the company to keep a good place in the current market.

I have been recently looking at a number of internet retailers for photographic Equipment, and Pentax has disappeared from from their offers (it was formerly in their catalogue). It is not a good sign for the future - and requires an answer.

Seriously?

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In reply to Cane, Mar 29, 2013

I don't think they are going under.  But this market is dog eat dog. And they are already with two strikes against them. Look at Nikon, they never got back the Pro shooters they once had. Not sure the fate. YEARS to get back the respect from pro's for sure if they ever have a pro camera. The K-5 is a far cry from a pro camera. Not even in the same ball park as the others at this point.

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Jim in Hudson wrote:

noel2 wrote:

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I have been recently looking at a number of internet retailers for photographic Equipment, and Pentax has disappeared from from their offers (it was formerly in their catalogue). It is not a good sign for the future - and requires an answer.

Which internet retailers are you referring to?  As everyone else here knows, the three biggest in the USA (B&H, Adorama, Amazon.com) carry essentially everything Pentax makes.

To add to that, Costco, the largest big box store in the US, is now carrying a K30 bundle ($849+tax fror K30,18-55mm WR Lens, 55-200mm WR Lens, Camera Bag, 16GB SD Card, free shipping).

While not a traditional retailer, the fact Pentax is even being carried by the very picky Costco, is a good sign. Even if the move is intended to move inventory.

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I assume you're just venting, because what makes you think that anyone here knows the future of Pentax? My uninformed *guess* is that Pentax is going to be APS-C for the foreseeable future. If you need full-frame, there are already excellent options out there, and I'm sure that your SMC-A lenses will sell for decent prices. Life is short - why waste time?

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Hi,

Well, it's this second half of this year and next year that will tell us where Pentax is going,freed from the last of the Hoya developements. I know speaking to my Pentax friend things have got to seriously buck up, the worlds financial problems have not helped either.  Pentax really need to sell in large quantities, their best seller was the KX, since that model their cameras have improved enormously,but sold less well. My guess is they need another entry model that will appeal to the masses, a lot of women bought the KX as well as beginners and students.

In short they need a mass seller!

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noel2 wrote:

Many years ago, having invested in a number of excellent A* Pentax lenses, I was waiting for Pentax to look foreward and enter the digital mode to do justice to the quality of its optics.

When ever you get tired of waiting, I'll pay for shipping.

Go to e-bay, or a flea market, pick up any recent Pentax 35mm camera.

Spend $7 on a roll of Velvia, and you can be kickin' it old school with your A* lenses.

Frankly, your argument is nonsensical.  Other than changing the effective EFL, you don't get any more or less out of the lenses.

The A* lenses are still highly desirable, so sell them and switch to a more awesome brand?

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DAVID MANZE wrote:

Hi,

Well, it's this second half of this year and next year that will tell us where Pentax is going,freed from the last of the Hoya developements. I know speaking to my Pentax friend things have got to seriously buck up, the worlds financial problems have not helped either.  Pentax really need to sell in large quantities, their best seller was the KX, since that model their cameras have improved enormously,but sold less well. My guess is they need another entry model that will appeal to the masses, a lot of women bought the KX as well as beginners and students.

In short they need a mass seller!

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I think you're spot on.

Of course, they should not neglect the higher end - either K-mount or 645D. I expect them to expand their product range in both directions.

Alex

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noel2 wrote:

Many years ago, having invested in a number of excellent A* Pentax lenses, I was waiting for Pentax to look foreward and enter the digital mode to do justice to the quality of its optics.

I then seriously considered getting rid of my Equipment and following the more progressive and "market oriented" , though more expensive and less "photographically" oriented competition.

I have nevertheless remained with Pentax up to now. I still use the A* lenses - which are among the best ever produced for photography - and use them with the available APS-C bodies that Pentax produces.

But, if Pentax does not follow the trend to use The FF sensors that are becoming available, and capitalize on its older experience, I am very pessimistic as to the future of the company to keep a good place in the current market.

I have been recently looking at a number of internet retailers for photographic Equipment, and Pentax has disappeared from from their offers (it was formerly in their catalogue). It is not a good sign for the future - and requires an answer.

The future is bright even without a FF.

If the K3 is what it is hyped to be (A high end APSC ala D300s/ 7D), the future is brighter. Just imagine your lenses used on a smallish pro grade APSC DSLR which seems like a good market right now.

Sony is taking a beating with Canikon in the FF department and IMHO its a huge risk for Pentax/Ricoh w/o a complete FF environment to compete with C&N.

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Do you remember people saying that about vinyl (records)?

Its a niche market but so what?

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noel2 wrote:

Many years ago, having invested in a number of excellent A* Pentax lenses, I was waiting for Pentax to look foreward and enter the digital mode to do justice to the quality of its optics.

When ever you get tired of waiting, I'll pay for shipping.

Go to e-bay, or a flea market, pick up any recent Pentax 35mm camera.

Spend $7 on a roll of Velvia, and you can be kickin' it old school with your A* lenses.

Frankly, your argument is nonsensical.  Other than changing the effective EFL, you don't get any more or less out of the lenses.

The A* lenses are still highly desirable, so sell them and switch to a more awesome brand?

Exactly! Stop complaining!

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Just look at what the young folks use for photos and video, their smart phone. Look at youtube and number of videos shot with phones is high.

The demand from the average consumer for a big heavy complicated camera is low.

I enjoy my Pentax cameras but wanted full frame so have a nikon for that and a smart phone for spur of the moment photos and video.

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Noel we have 2 cameras that are competing with most FF bodies at 2/3 of the price & weight, I really can't see why you are so depressed - you need to get out and take some stunners!

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In reply to noel2, Mar 29, 2013

Noel,

The Pentax FF camera is coming, don't worry, and it's coming as soon as this year.

You'll be using those A* lenses with pride. However, don't forget that when the FF comes out, only then, you, and many people, will truly understand the value of an excellent camera like the K5IIs.

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Once and a while I blame my gear for lack of a good shot.

Then I will check out the recent winners of challenges (soom shot w. a P&S) and realize that I am the problem.

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Hi Noel,

I don't think you need to be pessimistic.  Ricoh didn't invest in Pentax to lose money - they will manage and develop the business to make a return on their investment.  They will survive as long as they make quality products that sell.  They've made very good APSC DSLRs that have sold and a few products that haven't sold so well, but that's the fate of experimentation in business.  They may yet make an FF camera (or cameras)....... They've indicated that they're working on it but they've got to be very careful to get the formula right.

If you need to use an FF now, you don't need to wait and you can keep your A* gear.  You can use your A* lenses on a Canon FF - as I understand it, adapters are available and you're happy with manual focus or you wouldn't be using A series lenses.  The adapters are inexpensive and the better ones are chipped to offer some metering and focus confirm functions.  You could try out a used Canon FF while you wait for the mythical Pentax FF.

Cheers, Rod

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In reply to Underdog 3000, Mar 30, 2013

Not sure I understand the obsession on here for full frame actually (and I two have a couple of full frame lenses from my film days)

I say this because in the K5 II and K5 IIs you have cameras that in terms of shooting quality are easily up to he task of shooting for any commercial outlet, magazine or agency in the world.  You can take a K5ii image and enlarge it to large poster size and it still meets all likely commercial requirements.  I do think Pentax needs to respond to the Nikon D7100 and that is the main reason why I'm holding off buying an Ist DS replacement just yet.  In independent testing (DXO) the K5ii is one of the highest quality DSLR's

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