We really have a very good lenses choice. Agree ?

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Mar 26, 2013

I go sometimes to Micro Four Thirds official site.

Today I was admiring the lenses pages.

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lense.html

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lens_chart.html

I love lenses, It was my first fascination when I was a kid, to look trough the lenses from my father cameras. Then I started to do Photography and until now is my main fascination, I like very much cameras but lenses have something magic, and they are a better investment.


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http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/body.html


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Thanks for sharing this. Very good visual summary.

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MValore wrote:

Thanks for sharing this. Very good visual summary.

Glad you liked, it was on purpose to show the lenses from the two great brands.


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Yep, there is enough to make a nex or Fuji system owner jealous.

The lens list is incomplete though (Samyang fisheye, Oly 15mm body cap, SLRMagic lenses for instance are missing)

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Aleo Veuliah wrote:

I go sometimes to Micro Four Thirds official site.

Today I was admiring the lenses pages.

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lense.html

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lens_chart.html

I love lenses, It was my first fascination when I was a kid, to look trough the lenses from my father cameras. Then I started to do Photography and until now is my main fascination, I like very much cameras but lenses have something magic, and they are a better investment.

We sure do have a good selection of native M4/3 lenses. Although, they left out the SLR Magic line of lenses. Hmmmm...
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Aleo Veuliah wrote:

I go sometimes to Micro Four Thirds official site.

Today I was admiring the lenses pages.

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lense.html

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lens_chart.html

I love lenses, It was my first fascination when I was a kid, to look trough the lenses from my father cameras. Then I started to do Photography and until now is my main fascination, I like very much cameras but lenses have something magic, and they are a better investment.

My favourite online toy is the Matching Simulation:

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/special/matching.html

(well, not really, there are other sites that I like more; but I think it is a very good resource for checking out the possible look of any FT or µFT camera, coupled with any FT or µFT lens (and a number of specialties and legacy lenses etc).

The fact that you can mount lenses on cameras make it much easier to guess at their respective sizes, much better than just a chart.  This includes also the pretty big Olympus SHG lenses.

Just recently, I used it to look how different in size the 25mm and 17.5mm Voigtlander Nokton are, as compared to each other and to the Olympus 12-50 lens, all of that mounted on E-M5.

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"Bodies are for Christmas, lenses are for life."

This was very true for me with Canons, when my high-quality zooms and primes were always older than the bodies they sat on, and will likely be true for my m4/3 glass, as well. I may upgrade the bodies, but if the glass is good, and most of it really is, why change that?

Glass is key, and is the only reason I abandoned my NEX 5, which was an excellent camera. It was the lack of glass, namely an ultrawide zoom and FF fisheye, that drove me to m4/3. Haven't regretted it for a second.

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daymon wrote:

Yep, there is enough to make a nex or Fuji system owner jealous.

The lens list is incomplete though (Samyang fisheye, Oly 15mm body cap, SLRMagic lenses for instance are missing)

True, they have to update that.


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RoelHendrickx wrote:

Aleo Veuliah wrote:

I go sometimes to Micro Four Thirds official site.

Today I was admiring the lenses pages.

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lense.html

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lens_chart.html

I love lenses, It was my first fascination when I was a kid, to look trough the lenses from my father cameras. Then I started to do Photography and until now is my main fascination, I like very much cameras but lenses have something magic, and they are a better investment.

My favourite online toy is the Matching Simulation:

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/special/matching.html

(well, not really, there are other sites that I like more; but I think it is a very good resource for checking out the possible look of any FT or µFT camera, coupled with any FT or µFT lens (and a number of specialties and legacy lenses etc).

The fact that you can mount lenses on cameras make it much easier to guess at their respective sizes, much better than just a chart. This includes also the pretty big Olympus SHG lenses.

Just recently, I used it to look how different in size the 25mm and 17.5mm Voigtlander Nokton are, as compared to each other and to the Olympus 12-50 lens, all of that mounted on E-M5.

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It was the same for Micro 4/3rds not so long ago, I remember buying my G1 in 2009 and you had a grand total of 2 lenses to chose from, how time have changed in 4 years.

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The most comprehensive list:

http://www.mirrorlessdb.com/index.html#microfourthirds

Even this leaves out some lenses.

Although not quite native they box it with an adapter for m43s. (Needs an adapter for any camera) The Kenko/Tokina 400m mirror lens.

http://www.kenkoglobal.com/Mirror_Lens-400mm-F8.html

The Skink pinhole lens.

http://skinkpinhole.com/wp/webshop/shop/systemkameras-mirrorless/skink-pinhole-pancake-pro-kit-classic-wide-mft/

Thought they were missing the Nanoha, but there it is at the bottom. I'd like the Madoka lens to come out for m43s.

We really do have a great choice of lenses available. Not many holes left. A wider prime like 10mm, telephoto primes. The expected Oly higher end zooms won't really fill in holes at this point, but will offer some choices and maybe a 7-14mm-ish wide that doesn't have as much CA.

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JoostL wrote:

The most comprehensive list:

http://www.mirrorlessdb.com/index.html#microfourthirds

Even this leaves out some lenses.

True, I don't know if it is a delay on updating, or they just pass some lenses.

Although not quite native they box it with an adapter for m43s. (Needs an adapter for any camera) The Kenko/Tokina 400m mirror lens.

http://www.kenkoglobal.com/Mirror_Lens-400mm-F8.html

The Skink pinhole lens.

http://skinkpinhole.com/wp/webshop/shop/systemkameras-mirrorless/skink-pinhole-pancake-pro-kit-classic-wide-mft/

Thought they were missing the Nanoha, but there it is at the bottom. I'd like the Madoka lens to come out for m43s.

We really do have a great choice of lenses available. Not many holes left. A wider prime like 10mm, telephoto primes. The expected Oly higher end zooms won't really fill in holes at this point, but will offer some choices and maybe a 7-14mm-ish wide that doesn't have as much CA.


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Yeah, I know they will be big.  I still want a 300/4 or a 400/5.6 option.  That's the only real "hole" that I see.  Otherwise, I'm so satisfied with the selection that I sold a very nice APS-C kit to move to MFT.

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Yeah, I know they will be big.  I still want a 300/4 or a 400/5.6 option.  That's the only real "hole" that I see.  Otherwise, I'm so satisfied with the selection that I sold a very nice APS-C kit to move to MFT.

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I would like to see those, but it is a matter of time, soon we will have a 150mm f/2.8 by Panasonic Lumix. And I think the tendencies are to appear more long focal lengths with wide apertures. Anyway they will never be as big as the DSLR lenses.


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jeffharris wrote:

Aleo Veuliah wrote:

I go sometimes to Micro Four Thirds official site.

Today I was admiring the lenses pages.

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lense.html

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lens_chart.html

I love lenses, It was my first fascination when I was a kid, to look trough the lenses from my father cameras. Then I started to do Photography and until now is my main fascination, I like very much cameras but lenses have something magic, and they are a better investment.

We sure do have a good selection of native M4/3 lenses. Although, they left out the SLR Magic line of lenses. Hmmmm...

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/contact/group.html

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Aleo Veuliah wrote:

I go sometimes to Micro Four Thirds official site.

Today I was admiring the lenses pages.

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lense.html

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lens_chart.html

I love lenses, It was my first fascination when I was a kid, to look trough the lenses from my father cameras. Then I started to do Photography and until now is my main fascination, I like very much cameras but lenses have something magic, and they are a better investment.

Well, that's your fetish then. Objectively to me this settles the question in regards to Fuji and NEX.

People also forget that the same lenses give a better performance with m4/3 bodies, and that's an important aspect.

However you forget, the third one. FF. There are clearly people more moneyed than others who feel the itch of sidetracking entirely the wealth of m4/3 and go FF, either conventional or mirrorless.

I predict the attraction of a Canon 52 Mpx will be irresistible. It might also be that most will buy a body and a couple of lenses, forget about it and then look for a new way to spend their money.

Will you be able to resist?

Wanting to have the full range of lenses of a system is of course the next madness, because you'll never make use of all of them. So one settles for the best of them, perhaps a dozen or more - and yet doesn't USE most. That shows the nature of greed: aiming to impossible things.

I really admire those who go on with a couple of lenses, and a body. HCB was one of these, but then he used his camera for work - a battered Leica.

Its resolution today wouldn't stand a chance against a m4/3 body, and good lenses are part of the equation. Holes in the lineup however make me smile.

We really live in the times of multiformat ownership.

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Aleo Veuliah wrote:

I go sometimes to Micro Four Thirds official site.

Today I was admiring the lenses pages.

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lense.html

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lens_chart.html

I love lenses, It was my first fascination when I was a kid, to look trough the lenses from my father cameras. Then I started to do Photography and until now is my main fascination, I like very much cameras but lenses have something magic, and they are a better investment.

Well, that's your fetish then. Objectively to me this settles the question in regards to Fuji and NEX.

Yes it is, I love to see the well polished glass shining.

People also forget that the same lenses give a better performance with m4/3 bodies, and that's an important aspect.

True.

However you forget, the third one. FF. There are clearly people more moneyed than others who feel the itch of sidetracking entirely the wealth of m4/3 and go FF, either conventional or mirrorless.

I predict the attraction of a Canon 52 Mpx will be irresistible. It might also be that most will buy a body and a couple of lenses, forget about it and then look for a new way to spend their money.

Will you be able to resist?

Of course I will resist, I have not bought a Nikon D800 with 36 megapixels.

If I had that money to spare I rather buy one or two lenses that I like.

Wanting to have the full range of lenses of a system is of course the next madness, because you'll never make use of all of them. So one settles for the best of them, perhaps a dozen or more - and yet doesn't USE most. That shows the nature of greed: aiming to impossible things.

Yes, but I only have now 4 lenses and they please me, and they are enough, I have resisted to buy a macro lens but that one I have to get in the future.

I really admire those who go on with a couple of lenses, and a body. HCB was one of these, but then he used his camera for work - a battered Leica.

I have the same admiration. Don't know if Ansel Adams that is one of my favorites photographers like Henry is, had a lot of lenses.

Its resolution today wouldn't stand a chance against a m4/3 body, and good lenses are part of the equation. Holes in the lineup however make me smile.

We really live in the times of multiformat ownership.

Again true.

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