Red River Metallic Paper is Amazing

Started Mar 25, 2013 | Discussions
SoCal Dave
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Re: It's K3 compatible...
In reply to Hugowolf, Mar 28, 2013

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TonyGamble wrote:

This thread has prompted me to get a sample of Breathing Color Vibrance Metallic and it is supposed to work in an OEM ink 3880.

Works with, is different to works well with. Sure you can print on it with no problems, but it isn't 'spectacular' with pigment ink. It most often comes across as yet another odd ultra high gloss paper.

I have a sample of an early Mitsubishi metallic paper (no longer available) that was much more pearlescent than the two main varients available now. It wasn't a paper for general use like the newer ones, but when it worked, it really worked with pigments.

Brian A

I find the RR Metallic is excellent with an Epson 4900 pigment ink printer - for the right subjects.  I have a series on display right now that are all photos of European monuments/cathedrals which have the common theme of lots of gold leaf.  The metallic paper makes the gold leaf pop like, well, metal.  Much more so than on standard gloss or lustre.  Also good for cars.

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TonyGamble
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Re: It's K3 compatible...
In reply to SoCal Dave, Mar 28, 2013

Dave,

I bought some Breathing Color Vibrance Metallic to use with my 3880 using OEM ink.

I know there are several variable to what you were doing by my tests showed nothing any better than a good quality Gloss.

Any clues. Should I wop up the Saturation for example?

Tony

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In reply to SoCal Dave, Mar 29, 2013

SoCal Dave wrote:

I find the RR Metallic is excellent with an Epson 4900 pigment ink printer - for the right subjects.  I have a series on display right now that are all photos of European monuments/cathedrals which have the common theme of lots of gold leaf.  The metallic paper makes the gold leaf pop like, well, metal.  Much more so than on standard gloss or lustre.  Also good for cars.

Dave

I have to agree, having not experienced what some of the others have been saying about this paper and pigment inks.  I don't know, maybe the dyes look even better.  But I wouldn't say my pigment prints look bad or average.  In fact, I think they have come out quite excellent on this paper.  If the dye printers improve even upon that, great.  But I wouldn't avoid this paper if you have a pigment printer.

I've been using the RR Polar Metallic with my Epson R2000 with some great results, and it is definitely noticeable over regular glossy paper types.  I have been successful in getting that 3D look people like about the metallic paper. Of course, the results you get are very subject dependent and there are some shots that just don't work very well with it.  I prefer landscapes, architecture, flowers, and metallic subjects when using it.  Portraits, there are a few the might work, but I tend to lean more towards using my Arctic Polar Luster paper for those.

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In reply to soloryb, Mar 30, 2013

With respect to pigment on RR Metallic...I have to lighten my shots by a half f stop to get the right look from inks...but pigments may require as much as a whole f stop. It is because of the absorption of pigment and how it sits on the paper. Do a little experimenting and you will find the sweet spot in your developmental process.

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My freind Mike says he notices the pigment prints getting a tad muddy after a few runs with the paper, so he cleans after about five sheets. Have not had that issue with dye inks.

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My freind Mike says he notices the pigment prints getting a tad muddy after a few runs with the paper, so he cleans after about five sheets. Have not had that issue with dye inks.

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I haven't seen that happen with the RR PPM on my 3880. What printer does your friend have? Is using OEM inks?

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In reply to soloryb, Mar 31, 2013

He has a canon but he has traced it back to a bad black ink jet nozzle. had it replaced and the problem seems to have gone away. The RR metallic looks exceptional from his printer.

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Red River PPM 17" rolls available
In reply to Tom-C, Mar 31, 2013

Red River Polar Pearl Metallic is again available in 17" X 100' rolls.

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