Reviews, hands-on, samples of HS50 Part VI

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Joms, I thought the X-S1 was $499?

I'm hopeful we can get the HS50 down to $450- I'll get one at that price.

Buydig has the lowest prices and very fast service, I keep checking them.

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Can someone please post a sample video taken by HS50? The earlier fujis have a problem of keeping steady focus while zooming in and out during video shooting. Has HS50 got the same issues?

Also, for pictures, some manual focus demos would help understand its focussing abilities in high DOF creating blurry backgrounds.

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alexisgreat wrote:

Joms, I thought the X-S1 was $499?

I'm hopeful we can get the HS50 down to $450- I'll get one at that price.

Buydig has the lowest prices and very fast service, I keep checking them.

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Last time I checked it was 599 at BHPhoto now at Amazon it soared back to 650.

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what causes these prices to bounce around so much?

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alexisgreat wrote:

what causes these prices to bounce around so much?

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X-S1 is an X-series camera so it should have a premium price. Actually 6xx is the right price for it. All pinhead superzooms should be under 5xx only.

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Midwest wrote:

jcmarfilph wrote:

LTZ470 wrote:

Tim39 wrote:

alexisgreat wrote:

I think for threads like this we should make the OP be able to mod his own thread and delete all posts not having directly to do with the camera (like this one haha).

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Agreed Tim, but there are not enough HS50's out for now to even start a thread?

We are going to have to pass the hat and send one to Joms so he can test?...

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Wanna donate one? Lol I already sold my HS30 and I am just waiting for some good samaritans out there to give me this camera.

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You seem to have ramped up your schedule. I thought I read that you didn't expect to purchase an HS50 before summer.

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Need to sell it fast because the price of the HS30 went up again and it only has few months warranty left. Now I need to watch the HS50 price closely now. $550 is still not right for me coz I would rather buy a 599$ X-S1. So it has to go down to $450-499 which is the right range for these pinhead superzooms.

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Good luck, I hope you catch it at a low point and pounce on it.

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Is Fuji going to announce the x-s2 soon?

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Midwest wrote:

Kim Letkeman wrote:

MitchyK7 wrote:

Thankyou Kim, i will incorporate this into the memory banks from now on. When i got my original HS the guy in the shop was explaining the EXR advantage (I hadn't asked him, i wanted the camera anyway, but he insisted). He boiled it all down to pixel binning and the two is better than one mode, and that DR and SN mode used slightly different modes of that. This was in a professional photography shop, not PC World. So that's another one scrubbed off the ever dwindling list of 'reliable sources'. LOL

Thankyou for the information, which i shall read over again a couple of times in the next couple of days to make sure some of it sticks!

I still think resolution over DR has it uses sometimes. But that's just my opinion! LOL

You need to check your findings thoroughly though. I have found no situations in which an HR image looks better than a DR image upsized to match. But I have seem many situations where an HR image looks far worse than a DR image upsized to match.

So when you want a 12mp image on the 1/2" sensor, you are always better off shooting M size and upsizing them in photoshop.

Also remember that, to even come close to matching the quality in the two modes, you need to shoot at the same ISO. And the sensor is tiny, so you will want ISO 100. And because you have to use the same DR as ISO in L mode (no similar restriction in M mode), you end up with images with a lot of blocked shadows and blown highlights in L mode. That is a double whammy ...

Is EXR something which primarily benefits only smaller sensors? I see that Fuji doesn't use it on their larger sensors - is there a reason for that?

I don't really know ... I think the division building the X100 came up with the X-Trans and that shut out EXR. Plus, it is hard to push half res on high end cams, so I think it mainly appeals to tiny sensors where DR is a huge challenge. As we know, the EXR sensors deliver blue skies far better than other pinheads ... but ... we also know that they are all catching up.

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interesting to note a very clear loss of detail in the RAW samples posted . Humm.. what's up with that ?

Given a choice re these examples I would pp the jpeg re color /contrast maybe a teensy tad of sharpening and NR ..and get a better image???

Is this a case where the in-cam sharpening has affected the jpeg and not the RAW?? Dunno.

all the best

A lot of people react that way. I find the raw images have better dimensionality most of the time, and in the end that's what makes an image catch your eye. YMMV of course.

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You have a lot of experience with Fuji cams, what's your feeling on the HS50 so far?

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Kim Letkeman wrote:

Midwest wrote:

Is EXR something which primarily benefits only smaller sensors? I see that Fuji doesn't use it on their larger sensors - is there a reason for that?

I don't really know ... I think the division building the X100 came up with the X-Trans and that shut out EXR. Plus, it is hard to push half res on high end cams, so I think it mainly appeals to tiny sensors where DR is a huge challenge. As we know, the EXR sensors deliver blue skies far better than other pinheads ... but ... we also know that they are all catching up.

Thanks for the explanation. I guess there's no answer outside the Fuji sensor design department that is for certain.

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You have a lot of experience with Fuji cams, what's your feeling on the HS50 so far?

Haven't played with one yet ... I'm talking with Fuji right now to arrange a loaner for review ...

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The best news I have heard!!!

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Kim Letkeman wrote:

KJaay wrote:

You have a lot of experience with Fuji cams, what's your feeling on the HS50 so far?

Haven't played with one yet ... I'm talking with Fuji right now to arrange a loaner for review ...

HOT DAMN!  That's the review I want to read!

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Isn't the reason for buying this kind of camera long zoom shots? I've been looking for a bridge cam with good IQ at the long end and am hoping to see more samples of shots at the long end of focal range.

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Isn't the reason for buying this kind of camera long zoom shots? I've been looking for a bridge cam with good IQ at the long end and am hoping to see more samples of shots at the long end of focal range.

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Lightning speed AF and STS, manual zoom, ergonomics, handling and long FL.

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Tim39 wrote:

Kim Letkeman wrote:

KJaay wrote:

You have a lot of experience with Fuji cams, what's your feeling on the HS50 so far?

Haven't played with one yet ... I'm talking with Fuji right now to arrange a loaner for review ...

HOT DAMN! That's the review I want to read!

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Hopefully we will see feathers and fur and not threads and crayons.

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I don't really know ... I think the division building the X100 came up with the X-Trans and that shut out EXR. Plus, it is hard to push half res on high end cams, so I think it mainly appeals to tiny sensors where DR is a huge challenge. As we know, the EXR sensors deliver blue skies far better than other pinheads ... but ... we also know that they are all catching up.

Can you show some examples of those lovely blue skies?

TIA

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Are the AF problems and speed been taken care of ? I am considering the x-si.

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