OK but with major limitation

Started Jan 24, 2013 | User reviews
bellcurve
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OK but with major limitation
Jan 24, 2013

All I need is a basic P&S. But I'd like decent image quality. I've tried/had a few and the ELPH 100 HS is attractive for its size but I've found one major drawback on the IQ front: it always selects the maximum aperture available. This means depth of field is always limited. On my Fuji F10, as an example, the camera would select a midway F stop in most situations as long as it could assure a shutter speed of 1/100 or higher. And if I chose Landscape mode it would stop down as far as it could go, if I chose Sports it would max out shutter speed, so the scene modes allowed a limited Av/Tv selection.

Not so on the ELPH 100. Every scene mode uses the max aperture the camera has available at that zoom level. And in Program mode if light allows 1/100 at f2.8 at 100 ISO bumping the ISO to 400 gets you 1/400 at f 2.8. There's just no way trick the thing into a higher aperture, and maybe there isn't one. Could it be the design only allows 1 aperture setting for any zoom?

In any case, the cameras nice high ISO ability, small footprint, good build quality, and potentially good IQ are hamstrung by the very shallow depth of field. Wanted to like it, but just can't.

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Landscapes / scenery
awful
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Canon ELPH 100 HS (IXUS 115 HS)
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heharkon
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Re: OK but with major limitation
In reply to bellcurve, 2 months ago

bellcurve wrote:

All I need is a basic P&S. But I'd like decent image quality. I've tried/had a few and the ELPH 100 HS is attractive for its size but I've found one major drawback on the IQ front: it always selects the maximum aperture available. This means depth of field is always limited. On my Fuji

The cheap ones don't have aperture diaphragm, the iris, so there really is only one setting. The f-value will change when you zoom in, as the focal length increases, but the hole where the light comes in, doesn't. But I think to compensate this, most of these have built in Netural Density (ND) filter, which increases the f-value to f/8.0, what comes to the exposure control, but it doesn't effect the depth of field.

-Henrik

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JohnG10
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In reply to heharkon, 2 months ago

I gave my GF one of these a couple years ago and she's caught wonderful memories on it. Just being an AUTO shooter she has had many good results, she has the "eye" if not the technical understanding. Sadly it bounced out of a handlebar bag going down a bumpy road and came apart.

Sounds like you are ready for an S110 the next time Canon promotes the refurbs. I am very happy with mine.

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syswalla
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In reply to JohnG10, 2 months ago

Not sure how this thread got resurrected from 2013, but I agree that this is a great little camera. My wife uses it on Auto to great effect for someone who's not as interested in the mechanics as the results. It's also taken very good video. In fact this past weekend, where my G15's microphone was clipping heavily from a concert's volume, her 100 HS did a better job of recording audio. Still some clipping but not nearly to the unreasonable level of my higher-end (and newer) camera.

Keeping limitations in mind due to the price point, this is one of those cameras that's hard to beat.

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heharkon
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In reply to syswalla, 2 months ago

syswalla wrote:

Not sure how this thread got resurrected from 2013, but I agree that this is a great little camera.

I just bought this model as a used one, haven't received it yet, but tomorrow. And I was reading reviews and DPR had "only" user reviews. I just decided to "defend" the little camera for not having an diaphragm. I'm planning to use this with CHDK software, so it opens up a bit more possibilities to play with. I really like all Canon's little Powershot cameras, I've had A810 (broke it with sand), Ixus 100, A640 (old but awesome), S1 IS very old but still fun with 10x zoom.

I almost bought a used S100, but I was reading so much about it's lens error issues that decided to still keep with the cheaper ones. I'm using these cameras in my KAP hobby (Kite Aerial Photography) and the ride can be a bit rough at times...

I was impressed with image quality of the small 1/2.3" sensor, I guess the BSI-CMOS 'HS' sensor really isn't just a marketing gimmick!

-Henrik

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Jon_T
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In reply to heharkon, 2 months ago

heharkon wrote:

I just bought this model as a used one, haven't received it yet, but tomorrow. And I was reading reviews and DPR had "only" user reviews. ...

FYI: CameraLabs ELPH 100 HS Full Review

Based upon CameraLabs review I bought one as a shirt pocket compact digicam. Considering its sensor size/ price IQ can be good if one works within its limitations.

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