D7100 vs D600

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RhysM
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D7100 vs D600
Mar 15, 2013

I have been looking at the RAW files here:

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/nikon-d600-digital-slr-review-20290

Comparing the base ISO NEF's for both cameras and i'm really struggling to see any significant difference in resolution between the two. I would have thought the removal of the AA filter would have been more obvious on two cameras with equal megapixels.

Anyone else thinking the same?

Nikon D600 Nikon D7100
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Bill Rees
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Re: D7100 vs D600
In reply to RhysM, Mar 15, 2013

RhysM wrote:

I have been looking at the RAW files here:

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/nikon-d600-digital-slr-review-20290

Comparing the base ISO NEF's for both cameras and i'm really struggling to see any significant difference in resolution between the two. I would have thought the removal of the AA filter would have been more obvious on two cameras with equal megapixels.

Anyone else thinking the same?

The DX camera has a higher pixel density so I would doubt it would look any better than an FX sensor with the same resolution given the same lens.

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Re: D7100 vs D600
In reply to RhysM, Mar 15, 2013

Anyone else thinking the same?

simply said... no... I would expect the larger pixels on the D600 would appear just as sharp, just because the number of pixels is the same, their ability to capture detail is different, as the sampling lattice (frequency/spacing) of pixels is different, as a result the frequencies of the image that would need to be affected by a low pass filter is different.

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Re: D7100 vs D600
In reply to blue_cheese, Mar 15, 2013

Since we're talking DX vs FX here (and why not, that's a popular topic these with "consumer" cameras) I want to see a comparison of the D40 and the D4.

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D7100 vs D600 vs D800E
In reply to RhysM, Mar 15, 2013

There are differences. D7100 is very sharp at low ISO.

D7100 vs D600 vs D800E

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In reply to toomanycanons, Mar 15, 2013

toomanycanons wrote:

Since we're talking DX vs FX here (and why not, that's a popular topic these with "consumer" cameras) I want to see a comparison of the D40 and the D4.

The two cameras are similar with differing feature advantages and only a few hundred dollars apart.  His is a reasonable request, so I don't see where a sarcastic response is warranted.

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Re: D7100 vs D600 vs D800E
In reply to 3D Gunner, Mar 15, 2013

3D Gunner wrote:

There are differences. D7100 is very sharp at low ISO.

D7100 vs D600 vs D800E

What lens was used? Care to say what you see? I don't see very much difference at all.

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Re: D7100 vs D600 vs D800E
In reply to 3D Gunner, Mar 15, 2013

I see the differences in color rendering

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In reply to RhysM, Mar 15, 2013

It's an apples to oranges comparison.  The DX sensor is less than half the size of the FX sensor.  The photoreceptors are smaller and much more crowded on the DX sensor.  Still, it is not surprising that you see little difference at low ISO.  At ISO 400 and above, the FX sensor has lower noise and better dynamic range.  If you limit the D7100 to a maximum of ISO 200, it will have essentially equal performance to the D600.  Perhaps you could do that in the studio.  It would make life difficult in most shooting conditions.

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Re: D7100 vs D600 vs D800E
In reply to Brian Caslis, Mar 15, 2013

EXIF data say: 18-105mm at 26mm/f:5.6 with D7100, 50mm (f:1.4) at f:5.6 with D600 and D800E (so was not fair because of very different DOF).

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Resolution: D7100 vs D600
In reply to RhysM, Mar 15, 2013

Now the situation is clear, D600 maintain a small advantage in overall resolution, especially at High ISO, as expected.

Hands on: Nikon D7100 review

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In reply to 3D Gunner, Mar 15, 2013

3D Gunner wrote:

Now the situation is clear, D600 maintain a small advantage in overall resolution, especially at High ISO, as expected.

Hands on: Nikon D7100 review

But much closer than most expected, and way superior to the D7000... which has about a third less resolution, particularly at higher ISOs.

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Re: Resolution: D7100 vs D600
In reply to Elixir, Mar 15, 2013

I expected that D7100 to have a little more resolution than D600 at ISO under 400, and lower resolution at higher ISO.
Now, can see that resolution is only a little higher than D5200, especialy at high ISO. But the overall image is very good.
Only the video quality remains unknown.

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Re: Resolution: D7100 vs D600
In reply to 3D Gunner, Mar 15, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/user/NikonD7100Channel?feature=watch

a couple of D7100 videos but strangely they are dated two weeks old.

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D7100 video
In reply to Gar Ber, Mar 15, 2013

I know this samples, but the author say that videos are with NR Off and without post processing, but the videos at high ISO are lack any significantly noise, and also lack all the details... So, I think that he do not know what he is doing regarding in camera video settings.

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RhysM
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Re: D7100 vs D600
In reply to RhysM, Mar 15, 2013

Thanks for the input.

So no tangible difference, even when pixel peeping at low ISO and at high ISO the D600 is well ahead of the D7100.

That makes it easier to decide between the two as for my needs the only decision now is high ISO ability vs AF ability.

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In reply to RhysM, Mar 16, 2013

RhysM wrote:

Thanks for the input.

So no tangible difference, even when pixel peeping at low ISO and at high ISO the D600 is well ahead of the D7100.

That makes it easier to decide between the two as for my needs the only decision now is high ISO ability vs AF ability.

Consider that a constant f 2.8 aperture zoom on the D7100, would make up the 1 stop or so difference in ISO sensitivity that the D600 gets you with its kit 3.5-5.6 lens

That said, you can also regain the stop by getting an f2.8 zoom on the FF camera, but it is that much pricier.

I agree it is a dilemma, and unless you draw the line somewhere in terms of "IQ", you go down a winding path of diminishing returns, that may matter really to only a select few with very critical needs for specific work...

Curious how you decide as I am looking at same cameras and it is the same toss up, AF vs FF

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