D800 UK availability

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Aborigene
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D800 UK availability
Mar 15, 2013

Hi all,

Has anyone bought a d800 in the last couple of months? Any sign of focus issue to complain about?

Many thnaks.

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In reply to Aborigene, Mar 15, 2013

There is no sign of a focus error in any of the 124 links I have looked at at dpreview - if you accept Nikon are telling the truth when confirming on page 100 of the instructions autofocus is likely to be inaccurate with some types of autofocus subjects.

If you buy mail order from a UK retailer and you are not 100% satisfied or change your mind you have over a week to try it out, test it, and send it back for exchange or refund under the Distance Selling Regulations. Most people able to afford a D 800 are good enough photographers to test it thoroughly within 2-3 days

There did not seem to be any refurbished D800 at Focus, implying nobody is returning them with this perhaps overhyped internet issue.

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In reply to Leonard Shepherd, Mar 15, 2013

Leonard Shepherd wrote:

There is no sign of a focus error in any of the 124 links I have looked at at dpreview - if you accept Nikon are telling the truth when confirming on page 100 of the instructions autofocus is likely to be inaccurate with some types of autofocus subjects.

If you buy mail order from a UK retailer and you are not 100% satisfied or change your mind you have over a week to try it out, test it, and send it back for exchange or refund under the Distance Selling Regulations. Most people able to afford a D 800 are good enough photographers to test it thoroughly within 2-3 days

There did not seem to be any refurbished D800 at Focus, implying nobody is returning them with this perhaps overhyped internet issue.

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Those 124 links you looked at showed problems with the left AF unable to obtain sharp focus while the centre  & right AF points were able to obtain sharp focus , the quality of the focus targets is immaterial  if the outermost right AF can obtain focus on a target & the left AF is worse there is a real problem.

Any explanations why it's always the left AF sensor ?

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In reply to 5tve, Mar 16, 2013

5tve wrote:

Any explanations why it's always the left AF sensor ?

Leonard has no explanation for that. He will come up with something completely unrelated, or simply ignore to answer any question or factual information that may collapse his own constructed AF world.

The conclusion is that Leonard addresses his own problem, which is obviously not a technical one.

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In reply to 5tve, Mar 16, 2013

5tve wrote:

Any explanations why it's always the left AF sensor ?

Please stop twisting facts.

It is not always the left sensor, there are a few threads about the right sensor.

It should be well known, because it is using the Nikon specification, that the centre sensors have better autofocus capability than the outer sensors.

It is also fairly well now that the outer detectors do not respond to some subjects in the central cross type senses can read the ease.

Anybody able to score more than 5 out of 100 for logic should be able to work out the autofocus ability of outer and central points is not equal.

124 complaints on this forum seem to have been by photographers who did not use the D800 properly. There seem to be non using Nikon guidance.

The only logical explanation as why those who seem not use the camera properly complain is because they post links showing they seemed not use the camera properly

There is always a definite silence in threads like this when I ask some-one to find a link to a problem using the camera in accordance with Nikon's guidance.

It is extremely difficult to comment on possibly perceived problems when there seems to be no evidence that the problem is anything other than some photographers not using their cameras as Nikon advise for best autofocus results.

I do not disagree that a few cameras with which their owners perceive  a problem might actually have a problem if used properly. However if no one posts showing a problem following Nikon's guidance no one knows how many, if any, there might be

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In reply to Leonard Shepherd, Mar 16, 2013

Leonard Shepherd wrote:

There is no sign of a focus error in any of the 124 links I have looked at at dpreview - if you accept Nikon are telling the truth when confirming on page 100 of the instructions autofocus is likely to be inaccurate with some types of autofocus subjects.

If you buy mail order from a UK retailer and you are not 100% satisfied or change your mind you have over a week to try it out, test it, and send it back for exchange or refund under the Distance Selling Regulations. Most people able to afford a D 800 are good enough photographers to test it thoroughly within 2-3 days

There did not seem to be any refurbished D800 at Focus, implying nobody is returning them with this perhaps overhyped internet issue.

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Hey Leonard

You went quiet on the thread I raised regarding focus issues on my D800 so I guess I'm not one of your 124 because you can't, won't or don't want to respond to a reasonable question.

Paul

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McKie wrote:

Leonard Shepherd wrote:

There is no sign of a focus error in any of the 124 links I have looked at at dpreview - if you accept Nikon are telling the truth when confirming on page 100 of the instructions autofocus is likely to be inaccurate with some types of autofocus subjects.

If you buy mail order from a UK retailer and you are not 100% satisfied or change your mind you have over a week to try it out, test it, and send it back for exchange or refund under the Distance Selling Regulations. Most people able to afford a D 800 are good enough photographers to test it thoroughly within 2-3 days

There did not seem to be any refurbished D800 at Focus, implying nobody is returning them with this perhaps overhyped internet issue.

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Leonard Shepherd
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Hey Leonard

You went quiet on the thread I raised regarding focus issues on my D800 so I guess I'm not one of your 124 because you can't, won't or don't want to respond to a reasonable question.

Paul

Afternoon guys,

Probably because out of the 51 sensors in his brain, only one is focusing. But with focus locked on the wrong part of the subject. But Melville said it's working as specified and no impact damage

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In reply to Leonard Shepherd, Mar 16, 2013

Leonard Shepherd wrote:

5tve wrote:

Any explanations why it's always the left AF sensor ?

Please stop twisting facts.

It is not always the left sensor, there are a few threads about the right sensor.

There is no twist of facts. In all cases (maybe 1 exception I don't know of), it is ALWAYS the left sensor, and in some cases it is the left and right sensor. Nevertheless, the above assertion is true, it is always the left sensor that is included.

It should be well known, because it is using the Nikon specification, that the centre sensors have better autofocus capability than the outer sensors.

It is also fairly well now that the outer detectors do not respond to some subjects in the central cross type senses can read the ease.

That doesn't answer the question why in the majority of the cases it is ONLY the left sensor.

It also does not explain why people do get sudden good results with the same targets after repair.

To understand that, you need to apply something that is called LOGIC.

Anybody able to score more than 5 out of 100 for logic should be able to work out the autofocus ability of outer and central points is not equal.

Anybody with a score of more than 0 out of 100 can see that the majority of cases reported are asymmetrical issues. The logical conclusion in those cases is that left behaves differently from right. Period. You have never been able to show within the context of a test why the left and right sensor behave differently. You have also never been able to explain why the right and left sensor show similar behaviour after repair with exactly the same target, where it was different before.

124 complaints on this forum seem to have been by photographers who did not use the D800 properly. There seem to be non using Nikon guidance.

Nikon personally told me I follow their guidance properly well. It is only you who seems to disagree. So your statement is incorrect.

People just show the results of a repeatable and well-managed test well in-line with Nikon's AF guidelines. It is you who transfer these tests into complaints, nobody else.

The only logical explanation as why those who seem not use the camera properly complain is because they post links showing they seemed not use the camera properly

There is always a definite silence in threads like this when I ask some-one to find a link to a problem using the camera in accordance with Nikon's guidance.

I did send you a link to Nikon's contact details to check with them about the validity of my test, but so far there has always been an utter silence from your side. Why didn't you take the effort to check that the targets used are OK, and why at the same time do you take the time to keep on complaining about someone else's contributions?

Can you show us a concrete test that is good enough? I'm convinced you cannot! You leave the initiative to somebody else, and seem to enjoy following up with a complaint.

Up to now you show no interest at all to check the facts, you are only interested to expose yourself over and over again with a flawed story to make other people look bad, which I think is a very very sad way of contributing to this forum.

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In reply to Marc Heijligers, Mar 16, 2013

Check out this thread from 6 months ago.....

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/42587483

The post from XRDBEAR  is particularly appropriate.

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In reply to Aborigene, Mar 20, 2013

I purchased a D800 today form Amazon.

Serial starting with 6092xxx

Seems recent, considering what I have seen in other forums.

So far, nothing to complain.

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