Sony NEX-5 Upgrade

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Damián B
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Sony NEX-5 Upgrade
Feb 26, 2013

Hi All,

It's been around 3 years since I bought my NEX-5 + 18-55 + 16 mm. Eventually, I got the Ultra-wide adapter and a Tamron 18-200 (That replaced my 18-55). I also have a Minolta MD 50 F/2 that I love for portraits and to use it when it's dark.

Now, I'm thinking about upgrading, and if either replace my body with a new NEX or get a second, better camera and use the NEX only for occasional/backup purposes.

I'm not a professional and I've never printed any pic. I'm shooting RAW now and processing with LR 4, then upload to Facebook or show them to friends using an iPad.

Just today I've got a used (free) Nikon 70-300 FX format that is around 140 usd online. And I hope it is working! haha.

I'm just wondering if buying a Nikon D600 FF would make sense as a proper upgrade. I'm ok with the NEX but the AF speed is really sluggish and low light performance is not that great.

I know I'm trading that lovely form factor, easy to carry photography. I mean, if I go out at night... not when traveling, I just take my NEX in a small messenger bag with my lenses and I'm ready to go.

The Nikon is FF, weather sealed, fast AF, good variety of lenses, etc... Only thing that concerns me is how big it is.

What do you think? I'm not in a hurry, my NEX is working perfect.. same as the first day. I did read about the RX1 but the idea of a fixed lens and no VF doesn't really appeals to me. I need an all-purpose camera.

Thanks!

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In reply to Damián B, Feb 26, 2013

Well when you don't print BIG and you don't pixelpeep then the D600 is way overkill.
When you want fast AF you better invest in the LA-EA2 adapter and some A-mount lenses.

The Nikkon is a beast, IQ is very good etc, but will you take it with you every time you go out?
Not oly it is large, but it is heavy too. Only the body (with 850 grams) is allmost twice the weight of the total Nex (Nex5n with kit lens at 463 grams) With lens the Nikon is 1115 grams. Sie here: the difference in size .

Remember the best camera iss the one you carry with you, not the one left at home...

You could easely use your monney for som fast glass and the adapter for the Nex 5 and enjoy the high quality the Nex gives you, even at low light.

I own the Nex 5 and love it. Low light is not as bad as it seams. it is less then two sops worse then the Nikon (See DXO ) With some fast glass you will overcome that problem.

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In reply to Damián B, Feb 26, 2013

Damián B wrote:

Hi All,

It's been around 3 years since I bought my NEX-5 + 18-55 + 16 mm. Eventually, I got the Ultra-wide adapter and a Tamron 18-200 (That replaced my 18-55). I also have a Minolta MD 50 F/2 that I love for portraits and to use it when it's dark.

Now, I'm thinking about upgrading, and if either replace my body with a new NEX or get a second, better camera and use the NEX only for occasional/backup purposes.

I'm not a professional and I've never printed any pic. I'm shooting RAW now and processing with LR 4, then upload to Facebook or show them to friends using an iPad.

Just today I've got a used (free) Nikon 70-300 FX format that is around 140 usd online. And I hope it is working! haha.

I'm just wondering if buying a Nikon D600 FF would make sense as a proper upgrade. I'm ok with the NEX but the AF speed is really sluggish and low light performance is not that great.

I know I'm trading that lovely form factor, easy to carry photography. I mean, if I go out at night... not when traveling, I just take my NEX in a small messenger bag with my lenses and I'm ready to go.

The Nikon is FF, weather sealed, fast AF, good variety of lenses, etc... Only thing that concerns me is how big it is.

What do you think? I'm not in a hurry, my NEX is working perfect.. same as the first day. I did read about the RX1 but the idea of a fixed lens and no VF doesn't really appeals to me. I need an all-purpose camera.

Thanks!

As someone else mentioned here, the Nikon D600 is no doubt a great camera, but you are used to the small camera frame and the NEX format, so why change it. The NEX 5N is way better than NEX 5 [I have two 5N and one 5R] ... and the body only, or single lens kit is currently very cheap.  I you buy the EVF with it ... and update the camera and lens firmware .... you will get lot faster focussing and picture processing than with the earlier NEX 5. If you want to splash out more money [after all, you were thinking of buying Nikon D600 ?] .. buy the NEX 5R with EVF, or NEX 6 .. both are superb cameras. You can still use the old NEX 5 with Nikon/NEX adapter and in the al focus mode .... where the slow auto focusing doesn't matter. If your NEX 5 works and the old 16 mm and 18-55 mm are alright [the 18-55 lens is upgradable to ver.02 of firmware, with NEX 5R], why would you get rid of it. If you sell the camera and kit lenses as the unit, you will get next to nothing, probably as little as $200. If you keep the body and sell the lenses separately, you might get as much as the new NEX 5N would cost with one kit lens e.g. $300.00. But if you want to stay with the NEX system upgrade properly .. the NEX 5R would be the best, specially if bought with the EVF ... is a great camera, a considerably better than your NEX 5. If you decide on NEX 5R [or NEX 6] ... make sure that it comes with 18-55 lens and not the 16-50 compact zoom lens ... a) you will save $100.00+ .. and b) the 18-55 is a better lens

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Damián B wrote:

Hi All,

It's been around 3 years since I bought my NEX-5 + 18-55 + 16 mm. Eventually, I got the Ultra-wide adapter and a Tamron 18-200 (That replaced my 18-55). I also have a Minolta MD 50 F/2 that I love for portraits and to use it when it's dark.

Now, I'm thinking about upgrading, and if either replace my body with a new NEX or get a second, better camera and use the NEX only for occasional/backup purposes.

I'm not a professional and I've never printed any pic. I'm shooting RAW now and processing with LR 4, then upload to Facebook or show them to friends using an iPad.

Just today I've got a used (free) Nikon 70-300 FX format that is around 140 usd online. And I hope it is working! haha.

I'm just wondering if buying a Nikon D600 FF would make sense as a proper upgrade. I'm ok with the NEX but the AF speed is really sluggish and low light performance is not that great.

I know I'm trading that lovely form factor, easy to carry photography. I mean, if I go out at night... not when traveling, I just take my NEX in a small messenger bag with my lenses and I'm ready to go.

The Nikon is FF, weather sealed, fast AF, good variety of lenses, etc... Only thing that concerns me is how big it is.

What do you think? I'm not in a hurry, my NEX is working perfect.. same as the first day. I did read about the RX1 but the idea of a fixed lens and no VF doesn't really appeals to me. I need an all-purpose camera.

Thanks!

A week ago I received my new nex-6 and Im veryh appy with it. I put my 2.5 years old nx-5 to rest (as a backup camera).

The nex-6 gave me 2 important things: EVF and hot shoe. Im doing some studio shooting, and the trick with the optical trigger was a mess.

IQ is suppose to be better, but I dont see it yet, but havent done a lot of shutting, or pushing the result in PS, to see how much DR I can get.

I also have the LAEA2 adapter and an 85mm and 70mm macro, mostly for portraits (with good light, natural or not, so I dont care about lack of IS).

I think that adding a hot shoe and a couple of flashes, some chinese modifiers (I just received a nice octogon that opens as an umbrella, with difuser and egg crate) , a cheap stand and a cheap flash (yongnuo) opens the door to a lot of different possibilities, and sites you will be reading daily (mainly strobist)

Well, that was my path. Doesnt mean it should be yours.

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In reply to Damián B, Feb 26, 2013

...would be to go to a camera store and try a NEX 6. If you like it, buy it.

Going to a DSLR after being used to the form factor of the NEX would be a backward step for your apparent photographic needs. Sell the 5 on EBay while it still has some value and either off-set the cost of the upgrade or buy some more legacy glass to make the deal even sweeter.

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Damián B wrote:

Hi All,

It's been around 3 years since I bought my NEX-5 + 18-55 + 16 mm. Eventually, I got the Ultra-wide adapter and a Tamron 18-200 (That replaced my 18-55). I also have a Minolta MD 50 F/2 that I love for portraits and to use it when it's dark.

Now, I'm thinking about upgrading, and if either replace my body with a new NEX or get a second, better camera and use the NEX only for occasional/backup purposes.

I'm not a professional and I've never printed any pic. I'm shooting RAW now and processing with LR 4, then upload to Facebook or show them to friends using an iPad.

Just today I've got a used (free) Nikon 70-300 FX format that is around 140 usd online. And I hope it is working! haha.

I don't know about Nikon, but I have a Sony A900 and not all the cheaper lenses (particularly telephoto zooms) work well optically with it.  You should check this lens works OK optically with the D600 before making any buying decisions based upon it

I'm just wondering if buying a Nikon D600 FF would make sense as a proper upgrade.

I'm ok with the NEX but the AF speed is really sluggish

Modern DSLRs will certainly offer better performance in this respect

and low light performance is not that great.

Have you tried Hand Held Twighlight mode?  I know it only works for JPEG, stationary subjects (though portraits are OK) and the restrictions are annoying but depending on your photography it could give you what you need in this respect

I have a 'Pro' friend with a Nikon D800 who was shocked at how much better the low-light images from my old NEX 5 in HHT mode were against his brand-new Full Frame camera when we both went out shooting one evening.  I explained to him that the NEX was 'cheating' but his comment was 'I don't care, it's much better and I'm annoyed'

I bought the NEX 5R over the cheaper NEX 5N just because of the MFNR (multi-frame noise reduction) app which works like HHT but gives you proper control over the various settings

I know I'm trading that lovely form factor, easy to carry photography. I mean, if I go out at night... not when traveling, I just take my NEX in a small messenger bag with my lenses and I'm ready to go.

The Nikon is FF, weather sealed, fast AF, good variety of lenses, etc... Only thing that concerns me is how big it is.

Different tools

A FF DSLR will certainly be better for more specialised use: studio, sports, low-light and it will have a good lens range (but NEX offers lots of legacy opportunities denied to DSLR owners)

The NEX is great for street photography and for carrying a camera easily - you won't want to lug the big DSLR with you unless it has a definite purpose!

If you want to do Studio or Sports work then you probably need a DSLR, but keep the NEX as you will probably miss it if you do get rid of it

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In reply to parallaxproblem, Feb 28, 2013

Hi Guys,

Thanks a lot for all the helpful posts! You are right about the burden of carrying a lot of stuff.

I still have the 18-55 lens, so maybe no need for the power zoom. It do seems as a very compact lens, no idea if there is a real world difference with the original 18-55.

I hate changing lens so that's why I have the Tamron (but it seems it is not compatible with the phase AF). And it really struggles in low light.

I think I will wait till the NEX-7N to see what's the options.

If I don't own any DSLR Sony/Minolta lenses, what's the advantage of the adapter? Is there any 24 or 35 mm 1.8 available for cheap to use with the combo?

Besides, do you know any site that ships the NEX body only overseas (middle east).

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In reply to Damián B, Feb 28, 2013

Damián B wrote:

Hi Guys,

Thanks a lot for all the helpful posts! You are right about the burden of carrying a lot of stuff.

I still have the 18-55 lens, so maybe no need for the power zoom. It do seems as a very compact lens, no idea if there is a real world difference with the original 18-55.

I hate changing lens so that's why I have the Tamron (but it seems it is not compatible with the phase AF). And it really struggles in low light.

I think I will wait till the NEX-7N to see what's the options.

If I don't own any DSLR Sony/Minolta lenses, what's the advantage of the adapter? Is there any 24 or 35 mm 1.8 available for cheap to use with the combo?

Besides, do you know any site that ships the NEX body only overseas (middle east).



l have the the Nex 5 as well and would like to upgrade too but I want something with an AF system that can track continous movement much better. That is my only complaint about about the Nex 5. I have read from others who have the Nex 6 that it is indeed better but it's still not great in terms of the AF system. My worry about the recent rumors is  that the Nex 7n's AF will be an similar to the Nex 6. I may need to wait a little longer and use my 5D to shoot my kids for action shots . I love the Nex series and hoping soon I can just use one camera for all my photography.

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In reply to James A., Mar 3, 2013

Yes, AF speed is my main concern too. I really missed so many shots in low light because of this.

I would even go with an RX1 if the AF would be the same as a DSLR.

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In reply to Damián B, Mar 3, 2013

Like others have said D600 will be an overkill for you. You might might however want to check out nikon D3200, 5100, 5200. Not as bulky as a D600 but much better auto focus than a nex or other mirror-less cams. However won't won't gain anything in DR or noise reduction.Even if you do go for these i strongly suggest you keep nex 5 with you because you are still gonna miss the small size and weight . For better low light images you need faster lenses.check out the 35 mm sel35f18 lens.That together with the nex 5R(because it has MFNR app that you can use with any settings as opposed to HHT) will give you amazing low light shots.

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In reply to Damián B, Mar 3, 2013

.. I can only say that what most people wrote here is correct: bulky DSLR will be an overkill.

I don't print either, but I also shoot RAW and just have fun in LR.

When I was considering a DSLR option I borrowed D7000 with 18-135 from a friend for one day. While I liked the ergonomics and all the extra buttons I don't have on my NEX 5, it was quite a luggage to carry for a casual walk. Of course you can counter this thought by saying that if it's just a usual walk then it's not a whole-day trip so carrying an extra kilo won't hurt.. but then I say back: consider a whole-day trip

One more note: My friend lives in US and visits Europe for business every now and then. He has a DSLR and when he didn't bring it for his first visit he was saying "man, this city is beautiful, I will bring my camera next time". He was back 2 times. Guess what

I am definitely getting NEX-6 at some point. Already made up my mind on that, and invested in SEL16 + UWA. For casual shooting it's more than enough.

Good luck!

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In reply to Damián B, Mar 4, 2013

I'm in a similar situation but have solved focus speeds in these ways:

  • LAEA2 + a-mount Sigma lens.  Works a treat but you'll need a second battery - it eats them!.  It's more accurate focus but in good light at about f5.6 it's not always faster focus.  The NEX-5 is better than I realised though I didn't get any of the more expensive but faster to focus SSM/HSM lenses.
  • SEL35F18 - at f1.8 it works great in all sorts of situations.
  • SEL16F28 - superb "point and shoot" lens.  I really just snap it on and fire away and get great shots.  Can't wait for the 20mm
  • Manual focus, especially with legacy lenses.  With a little practice and focus peaking on this is easy and pre-focusing on specific points with any lens sorts issues around AF speed.  I also always use the fastest multi-shot mode and at 7 shots/sec I can wind the focus through the subject to get at least one good shot when I'm not sure.  I just delete the rest.
  • Using fast e-mount lenses in general with AF tracking on - it really works.  I have nice shots taken with the Sigma 30mm of my kids on scooters with separation of the background and the wheels in motion but the kids are perfectly still.  The Sigma's a great lens for this (in fact, it reminds me that it needs an outing sometime soon :)).

The short story is that I haven't needed to upgrade yet.  It doesn't mean that the newer models aren't a lot better but before spending hundreds of pounds upgrading I think I'll add the new 20mm and/or a fast a-mount lens.  Now that I have the LAEA2 a 24-70mm f2.8 will be plenty for almost any situation where I need PDAF if that becomes a limiting issue.  So far it hasn't though.

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