Micro 4/3 Lens Question: Two Different Goals and Applications

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iim7v7im7
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Micro 4/3 Lens Question: Two Different Goals and Applications
Feb 23, 2013

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting.  In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography:  There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro.  I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

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In reply to iim7v7im7, Feb 23, 2013

iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

why buy a large interchangeable lens camera body like a GH3 and then limiti yourself to one lens?

And if you are going to travel, why not get a compact u 4/3 body?

An Oly E-pl5, 17mm f/2.8, 40-150mm zoom and maybe a manual prime would make a lot more sense for travel and IQ would be identical to the E-m5.

The whole kit would be smaller than the GH-3 body!

Tedolph

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In reply to iim7v7im7, Feb 23, 2013

iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

For prime lens I would go with the pany 25, dont have it ( I have the 20)

I would also suggest you find the funds for the olympus 45.... i can't say enough about what a great lens and excellent price.....

I do have the 12 - 35mm lens, and I must say I love this lens. I am a big prime lens fan, but this lens is great....

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

I shoot panasonic GH2, and GH3, I opted for the olympus, and don't regret it. The reason I opted for oly was price, focal length, and quality. Pretty decent quality, the focal length is more than my oly 45 do i get more versatile range.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

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I cannot comment on a lens for product photography.

For travel photography you did not mention a tele so I guess you do not need one (like me). A good option would be a 14-42 Panasonic kit lens plus a 20mm 1.7. The 20mm pancake has the advantage that it fits in your pockets in any case and that it adds the speed to your collection if needed. In addition it is still one of the sharpest lenses for mft. Plus with the Pancake the E-M5 still fits into most coat pockets. The 60mm would add a nice short tele option to this setup. 20+60 is a nice setup on its own.

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tedolf wrote:

iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

why buy a large interchangeable lens camera body like a GH3 and then limiti yourself to one lens?

And if you are going to travel, why not get a compact u 4/3 body?

An Oly E-pl5, 17mm f/2.8, 40-150mm zoom and maybe a manual prime would make a lot more sense for travel and IQ would be identical to the E-m5.

The whole kit would be smaller than the GH-3 body!

Tedolph

Teldolph,

Thanks for your suggestions and taking the time to comment (appreciated).

I did look at the E-PL5 and the fact that it has no view finder eliminated it from consideration. I need a view finder. I also think that I need at least F2.8 or better in terms of F stop to capture interior shots (could be wrong here).

You are absolutely correct regarding size and weight:

  • GH3 +12-35 mm Lens = 855 g/1275 cc
  • OMD + 12-35 mm Lens = 735 g/733 cc
  • PL5 + 40-150 mm Lens + 17 mm F1.8 Lens  = 665 g/604 cc

ALL of these options are quite small and light compared to:

  • Nikon D600 + 24-70 mm Lens = 1660 g/2017 cc

I also think the difference in size and volume between these will be weighed out against ergonomics. I am interested in discussing lens here vs. getting into a body debate.

Appreciated,
Bob

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TORN wrote:

I cannot comment on a lens for product photography.

For travel photography you did not mention a tele so I guess you do not need one (like me). A good option would be a 14-42 Panasonic kit lens plus a 20mm 1.7. The 20mm pancake has the advantage that it fits in your pockets in any case and that it adds the speed to your collection if needed. In addition it is still one of the sharpest lenses for mft. Plus with the Pancake the E-M5 still fits into most coat pockets. The 60mm would add a nice short tele option to this setup. 20+60 is a nice setup on its own.

Thank you!

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goshane wrote:

iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

For prime lens I would go with the pany 25, dont have it ( I have the 20)

I would also suggest you find the funds for the olympus 45.... i can't say enough about what a great lens and excellent price.....

I do have the 12 - 35mm lens, and I must say I love this lens. I am a big prime lens fan, but this lens is great....

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

I shoot panasonic GH2, and GH3, I opted for the olympus, and don't regret it. The reason I opted for oly was price, focal length, and quality. Pretty decent quality, the focal length is more than my oly 45 do i get more versatile range.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 + Olympus 45mm F1.8 or Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 for travel...

Olympus 60 mm F2.8 for home macro

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For arcitectural shots, keep in mind that the Lumix X 12-35mm f/2.8 is not completely rectilinear, even after the in-camera geometric distortion correction. At 12mm it features barrel distortion, and at 35mm pincushion distortion.  See examples of this distortion in this review:

http://m43photo.blogspot.com/2013/01/lumix-x-12-35mm-f28-review.html

In this respect, it could be that the basic kit zoom lens, Lumix G 14-42mm f/3.5-5.5 is better.

But apart from that, the Lumix X 12-35mm f/2.8 is a truly fantastic lens.

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iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

I`d go for the OMD with its 12-50mm kit lens.

The 12-50mm can cover both travel and macro in a single small single lens package.

The 12-50mm may not be the fastest of lenses but with the way the OMD handles noise at higher ISO`s and the superb IBIS it is more than capable.

Something else worth considering is the IS, Panasonic will limit your lens choice if IS is important to you.

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iim7v7im7 wrote:

tedolf wrote:

iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

why buy a large interchangeable lens camera body like a GH3 and then limiti yourself to one lens?

And if you are going to travel, why not get a compact u 4/3 body?

An Oly E-pl5, 17mm f/2.8, 40-150mm zoom and maybe a manual prime would make a lot more sense for travel and IQ would be identical to the E-m5.

The whole kit would be smaller than the GH-3 body!

Tedolph

Teldolph,

Thanks for your suggestions and taking the time to comment (appreciated).

I did look at the E-PL5 and the fact that it has no view finder eliminated it from consideration.

put a viewfinder on it!

If you have to have it bolted on, get a G-3

Still a whole lot smaller and lighter than a GH-3.

I need a view finder.

See above.

I also think that I need at least F2.8 or better in terms of F stop to capture interior shots (could be wrong here).

The 17mm pancake is an f/2.8 lens.

You are absolutely correct regarding size and weight:

  • GH3 +12-35 mm Lens = 855 g/1275 cc
  • OMD + 12-35 mm Lens = 735 g/733 cc
  • PL5 + 40-150 mm Lens + 17 mm F1.8 Lens = 665 g/604 cc

ALL of these options are quite small and light compared to:

  • Nikon D600 + 24-70 mm Lens = 1660 g/2017 cc

I also think the difference in size and volume between these will be weighed out against ergonomics. I am interested in discussing lens here vs. getting into a body debate.

Try the E-pl5 with the 17mm f/2.8 lens.



weight will be down another 100g.

Less than 1/3 the weight of your D600 kit.

Appreciated,
Bob

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Fredrik Glckner wrote:

For arcitectural shots, keep in mind that the Lumix X 12-35mm f/2.8 is not completely rectilinear, even after the in-camera geometric distortion correction. At 12mm it features barrel distortion, and at 35mm pincushion distortion. See examples of this distortion in this review:

http://m43photo.blogspot.com/2013/01/lumix-x-12-35mm-f28-review.html

In this respect, it could be that the basic kit zoom lens, Lumix G 14-42mm f/3.5-5.5 is better.

But apart from that, the Lumix X 12-35mm f/2.8 is a truly fantastic lens.

Thank you...

I was aware of these distortions.  I guess there is always some compromises with a zoom lens.

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I don`t own the G3 but I have the G2, Compared to the OMD, the G2 and G3 is somewhat larger, even with the OMD`s grip fitted.

OMD fitted with grip + 12-50mm, G2 fitted with 14-45mm.

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Alumna Gorp wrote:

iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

I`d go for the OMD with its 12-50mm kit lens.

The 12-50mm can cover both travel and macro in a single small single lens package.

The 12-50mm may not be the fastest of lenses but with the way the OMD handles noise at higher ISO`s and the superb IBIS it is more than capable.

Something else worth considering is the IS, Panasonic will limit your lens choice if IS is important to you.

Yes, IS in the body is a definite differentiator to consider particularly when all lens do not have IS.

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Alumna Gorp wrote:

I don`t own the G3 but I have the G2, Compared to the OMD, the G2 and G3 is somewhat larger, even with the OMD`s grip fitted.

OMD fitted with grip + 12-50mm, G2 fitted with 14-45mm.

Thanks for the comparative image.

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iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

I do product photography and use the Panasonic 45 2.8 macro. The focal length is perfect same idea of using a Nikon 60 mm macro full frame lens for copy stand or product stuff their 105 mm is too long considering how you have to frame a watch etc..

I use both the Panasonic GX-1 and GH-3. The GX-1 with the 45 2.8 works very well. I also do video so that is the main reason for the GH-3.

The Panasonic 12-35 2.8 balances well with the GX-1, but better with the GH-3. Same story with the Panasonic 35-100 2.8

Now the 25 1.4 is a so to say the nifty fifty equivalent.  The Panasonic 7-14 is a nice landscape lens.

For architecture stuff unless you want a certain effect that 12-35 is  a good range.

This is what I would do.

Get the 12-35 2.8 its a great main lens and the 45 2.8 macro for product stuff. If you shoot no flash or low light get the 25 1.4 since the 12-35 already covers that range and no need to duplicate it. Add the telephoto stuff later, but you can always get the Panasonic 45-200 its not expensive and its a good lens to start. If you want to buy it once the 35-100 2.8 is well worth it.

For camera body the GX-1 is a really nice camera and its a great price now at $320.00 body only. Look at the GH-3 later and I say that because the GX-1 is a good camera, the cost is very reasonable now and before I got the GH-3 the 12-35 & 45 2.8 work well IMHO.

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The VF-2 view finder cannot be used when the flash is being used due to its installation location. I do not think that this is the Olympus for me (ELP-5).  If I go Olympus, the OMD is more likely choice for me.

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Re: Micro 4/3 Lens Question: Two Different Goals and Applications
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ryan2007 wrote:

iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

I do product photography and use the Panasonic 45 2.8 macro. The focal length is perfect same idea of using a Nikon 60 mm macro full frame lens for copy stand or product stuff their 105 mm is too long considering how you have to frame a watch etc..

I use both the Panasonic GX-1 and GH-3. The GX-1 with the 45 2.8 works very well. I also do video so that is the main reason for the GH-3.

The Panasonic 12-35 2.8 balances well with the GX-1, but better with the GH-3. Same story with the Panasonic 35-100 2.8

Now the 25 1.4 is a so to say the nifty fifty equivalent. The Panasonic 7-14 is a nice landscape lens.

For architecture stuff unless you want a certain effect that 12-35 is a good range.

This is what I would do.

Get the 12-35 2.8 its a great main lens and the 45 2.8 macro for product stuff. If you shoot no flash or low light get the 25 1.4 since the 12-35 already covers that range and no need to duplicate it. Add the telephoto stuff later, but you can always get the Panasonic 45-200 its not expensive and its a good lens to start. If you want to buy it once the 35-100 2.8 is well worth it.

For camera body the GX-1 is a really nice camera and its a great price now at $320.00 body only. Look at the GH-3 later and I say that because the GX-1 is a good camera, the cost is very reasonable now and before I got the GH-3 the 12-35 & 45 2.8 work well IMHO.

Thanks for your recommendations.  The GX-1 has the same issue as the ELP-5 in that it requires and accessory viewfinder that prevents a flash from being used. Thank you for sharing your experiences with the lenses.

12-35 mm F2.8 as general travel lens

45 mm F2.8 as studio macro

25 mm F1.4 if I need a low light lens later

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Re: So.....
In reply to iim7v7im7, Feb 23, 2013

iim7v7im7 wrote:

The VF-2 view finder cannot be used when the flash is being used due to its installation location. I do not think that this is the Olympus for me (ELP-5). If I go Olympus, the OMD is more likely choice for me.

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Yes it can, Pens can control units wirelessly without the need to use the hot shoe.

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Re: Micro 4/3 Lens Question: Two Different Goals and Applications
In reply to iim7v7im7, Feb 23, 2013

iim7v7im7 wrote:

ryan2007 wrote:

iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

I do product photography and use the Panasonic 45 2.8 macro. The focal length is perfect same idea of using a Nikon 60 mm macro full frame lens for copy stand or product stuff their 105 mm is too long considering how you have to frame a watch etc..

I use both the Panasonic GX-1 and GH-3. The GX-1 with the 45 2.8 works very well. I also do video so that is the main reason for the GH-3.

The Panasonic 12-35 2.8 balances well with the GX-1, but better with the GH-3. Same story with the Panasonic 35-100 2.8

Now the 25 1.4 is a so to say the nifty fifty equivalent. The Panasonic 7-14 is a nice landscape lens.

For architecture stuff unless you want a certain effect that 12-35 is a good range.

This is what I would do.

Get the 12-35 2.8 its a great main lens and the 45 2.8 macro for product stuff. If you shoot no flash or low light get the 25 1.4 since the 12-35 already covers that range and no need to duplicate it. Add the telephoto stuff later, but you can always get the Panasonic 45-200 its not expensive and its a good lens to start. If you want to buy it once the 35-100 2.8 is well worth it.

For camera body the GX-1 is a really nice camera and its a great price now at $320.00 body only. Look at the GH-3 later and I say that because the GX-1 is a good camera, the cost is very reasonable now and before I got the GH-3 the 12-35 & 45 2.8 work well IMHO.

Thanks for your recommendations. The GX-1 has the same issue as the ELP-5 in that it requires and accessory viewfinder that prevents a flash from being used. Thank you for sharing your experiences with the lenses.

12-35 mm F2.8 as general travel lens

45 mm F2.8 as studio macro

25 mm F1.4 if I need a low light lens later

When doing product photography don't use a flash on the hot shoe. Your results will improve 100% using studio strobes. I use the Elinchrom Mono-light kit, comes with Two strobes (moonlights) soft boxes, speed rings, wireless transmitter that attaches to the GX-1 hot shoe to wirelessly trigger the strobes. Shoot lowest ISO, Manual or Aperture priority between F 5.6 - F 11 (F8) mostly. Get a cable release for the the camera too and of course a tripod.

Bought from B&H and price is about $600 - $800 from memory. Product photography with small objects a 200 w/s strobe is fine for each head. It is a 400 w/s kit.

If you have wall space all you need is a table with white seamless paper for photographic use. Look at Noble Gift Packaging for a way to Prop you products.

http://www.elinchrom.us/d-lite-2-it-set-with-manfrotto-light-stands

https://www.noblepackaging.com

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Re: Micro 4/3 Lens Question: Two Different Goals and Applications
In reply to ryan2007, Feb 23, 2013

ryan2007 wrote:

iim7v7im7 wrote:

ryan2007 wrote:

iim7v7im7 wrote:

Hi,

I am still pondering which body to choose between an Olympus OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 but let's leave that aside for a moment until I go and try them in NYC. It will come down to size, ergonomics and feel between these two I suspect. Assume the lenses that we are discussing will be used with one or the other (I do realize that the OMD has the image stabilization in the body and not all the lenses being discussed have it built in).

Regarding micro four third lens options from both Olympus and Panasonic I am wondering which to initially invest in to for my photographic purposes:

For Travel: I shoot outdoor landscapes in the countryside and architectural shots (both indoor and outdoor), closer up pieces of nature while walking about with the occasional shot of my dog (more static shots than action). I am looking to travel with a body, a SINGLE lens to travel with (I know, a tall order of compromise), memory cards a back-up battery, extra memory card and perhaps a polarizer.

Which lenses should I consider?

I n prime lenses the Olympus 17 mm F1.8 and Panasonic 25 mm F1.4 seem like potential options but might be too limiting. In zooms the Panasonic 12-35 mm F2.8 seems like a good option as well.

Thoughts and Suggestions?

For Close-up Watch Photography: There are two choices here: Olympus 60 mm F2.8 Macro or the Panasonic Leica 45 mm F2.8 Macro. I like the build quality of the Panasonic over the Olympus but I suspect the Olympus can be used from farther back to get the same image. If any of you have experience with both, I would appreciate your input.

SO configuration one is the versatile compact traveler set up and the macro is for home use in my tabletop diffuser cube.

Thanks,

Bob

I do product photography and use the Panasonic 45 2.8 macro. The focal length is perfect same idea of using a Nikon 60 mm macro full frame lens for copy stand or product stuff their 105 mm is too long considering how you have to frame a watch etc..

I use both the Panasonic GX-1 and GH-3. The GX-1 with the 45 2.8 works very well. I also do video so that is the main reason for the GH-3.

The Panasonic 12-35 2.8 balances well with the GX-1, but better with the GH-3. Same story with the Panasonic 35-100 2.8

Now the 25 1.4 is a so to say the nifty fifty equivalent. The Panasonic 7-14 is a nice landscape lens.

For architecture stuff unless you want a certain effect that 12-35 is a good range.

This is what I would do.

Get the 12-35 2.8 its a great main lens and the 45 2.8 macro for product stuff. If you shoot no flash or low light get the 25 1.4 since the 12-35 already covers that range and no need to duplicate it. Add the telephoto stuff later, but you can always get the Panasonic 45-200 its not expensive and its a good lens to start. If you want to buy it once the 35-100 2.8 is well worth it.

For camera body the GX-1 is a really nice camera and its a great price now at $320.00 body only. Look at the GH-3 later and I say that because the GX-1 is a good camera, the cost is very reasonable now and before I got the GH-3 the 12-35 & 45 2.8 work well IMHO.

Thanks for your recommendations. The GX-1 has the same issue as the ELP-5 in that it requires and accessory viewfinder that prevents a flash from being used. Thank you for sharing your experiences with the lenses.

12-35 mm F2.8 as general travel lens

45 mm F2.8 as studio macro

25 mm F1.4 if I need a low light lens later

When doing product photography don't use a flash on the hot shoe. Your results will improve 100% using studio strobes. I use the Elinchrom Mono-light kit, comes with Two strobes (moonlights) soft boxes, speed rings, wireless transmitter that attaches to the GX-1 hot shoe to wirelessly trigger the strobes. Shoot lowest ISO, Manual or Aperture priority between F 5.6 - F 11 (F8) mostly. Get a cable release for the the camera too and of course a tripod.

Bought from B&H and price is about $600 - $800 from memory. Product photography with small objects a 200 w/s strobe is fine for each head. It is a 400 w/s kit.

If you have wall space all you need is a table with white seamless paper for photographic use. Look at Noble Gift Packaging for a way to Prop you products.

http://www.elinchrom.us/d-lite-2-it-set-with-manfrotto-light-stands

https://www.noblepackaging.com

Thanks for the tip.  I don't use a flash with my shots.  I use a table top diffusion cube with 2-5600k lights.

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