Has anyone used the Aurora FBO65 Firefly Beauty Box?

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jamesdo
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Has anyone used the Aurora FBO65 Firefly Beauty Box?
Feb 19, 2013

This is the one I'm considering to buy

http://www.adorama.com/AUFBBO26.html

Right now I don't have any big softbox or umbrella to use with flash. I've just used flash for outdoor portrait recently. So I want to buy one. Umbrella is cheap and convenient to bring but I worry about the light quality it brings. Actually I intend to buy a reflective umbrella when I need more power of light, or when I use with CTO gel. But for the main light source I still want to buy a softbox.

The firefly beauty box 65 looks impressive to me. It is very portable, light weight but it seems that the light will be soft and even due to the reflective dish attached to the front diffuser. I also light the round catchlight.

So the Firefly Beauty Box  65 is the one I should buy. But that's just my guessing. Has anyone had experience with this softbox? Is the light this softbox gives that good?

Btw, I shoot portrait with the tele lens (80-200) and I use two flashes. If I use the softbox as the main light source, what should I use with the second flash (shoot through umbrella, reflective umbrella?)

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I have the 26" and it's great for head shots if that is what you are looking for. If you go to my website all the "studio" shots are shot with that as my main. I have a 36" strip box that I use for rim/hair lighting.

It's not a cheap little softbox but the quality is solid and the light distribution is even.

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jamesdo wrote:

This is the one I'm considering to buy

http://www.adorama.com/AUFBBO26.html

Right now I don't have any big softbox or umbrella to use with flash. I've just used flash for outdoor portrait recently. So I want to buy one. Umbrella is cheap and convenient to bring but I worry about the light quality it brings. Actually I intend to buy a reflective umbrella when I need more power of light, or when I use with CTO gel. But for the main light source I still want to buy a softbox.

The firefly beauty box 65 looks impressive to me. It is very portable, light weight but it seems that the light will be soft and even due to the reflective dish attached to the front diffuser. I also light the round catchlight.

So the Firefly Beauty Box 65 is the one I should buy. But that's just my guessing. Has anyone had experience with this softbox? Is the light this softbox gives that good?

Btw, I shoot portrait with the tele lens (80-200) and I use two flashes. If I use the softbox as the main light source, what should I use with the second flash (shoot through umbrella, reflective umbrella?)

Thank!

$193.00 seems like an awful lot of money for what is essentially a small umbrella.

Ok, looking more closely at the description, it seems it has a diffuser, so I guess it's more like a softbox/umbrella hybrid. Still seems like an awful lot of money.

I'd want to know that it is significantly better than a silver umbrella of the same size before spending that much money on it.

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Duncan C wrote:

$193.00 seems like an awful lot of money



Agreed.

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24Peter wrote:

Duncan C wrote:


$193.00 seems like an awful lot of money



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Yes, and no. For example, Fotodiox has this-24-inch kit here for $272.00.

I don't have experience with that size Firefly. I do have the 20-inch one and it's kind of nice but I'm kind of bummed that one can't grid it.

http://fotodioxpro.com/index.php/smdv-diffuser-60-smart-softbox-professional-24x24-rigid-softbox-for-speedlite-flash-for-canon-nikon-nisson-metz-yongnuo-ttl-e-ttl-flash-speedlite.html

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24Peter wrote:

Duncan C wrote:


$193.00 seems like an awful lot of money



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Yes, and no. For example, Fotodiox has this-24-inch kit here for $272.00.

I don't have experience with that size Firefly. I do have the 20-inch one and it's kind of nice but I'm kind of bummed that one can't grid it.

http://fotodioxpro.com/index.php/smdv-diffuser-60-smart-softbox-professional-24x24-rigid-softbox-for-speedlite-flash-for-canon-nikon-nisson-metz-yongnuo-ttl-e-ttl-flash-speedlite.html

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It looks like the Fotodiox is better designed and constructed - at least from the photos.

I have two 24" and one 16" pop up softboxes off ebay - they cost less than $40 and work fine.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photo-Softbox-For-Speedlight-Flash-Speedlite-24-X-24-60cm-Soft-Box-w-Mounting-/230879411706?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c17c3dfa

Not the same for sure, but worth the extra $150? You decide.

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24" to 26" is nice for head shots but too small for anything else.

Why don't you look at the Photek SoftLighter?  A lot cheaper and if you get a soft silver one you have both a nicely sized softbox and soft silver umbrella for a lot less money.

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I agree the Fotodiox is better designed and constructed. But the lack of an ability to grid either that or the Firefly is a downside.

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In reply to 24Peter, Feb 21, 2013

Thank you all.

I have a couple of reasons to consider the Firefly 65. I know it isn't a cheap softbox. But in my case it's not that expensive.

I'm in Korea, where the Firefly 65 and the Fotodiox Diffuser 60 are made. So I can buy them at the price lower than what you thought. For example the price of Firefly 65 is about $120 and that of Fotodiox 60 is $140.

The price of $120 still isn't cheap for me. But it's cheap compared to other softbox or umbrella softbox. For example the PBL 43 Softbox Umbrella Reflective Steve Kaeser cost $60 here. I found you can buy it in amazone with only $13. Same story with other imported lighting device. The price of those softbox you suggest me must me at least double if I can find them here.

I even consider that the Firefly Beauty box 65 or Fotodiox Diffuser 60 include the adapter that you need to attach the softbox into the light stand. These thing cost at least $40 here and I doubt that they are as good as the one come with Firefly 65 or Fotodiox 60.

I like the round catchlight. So I don't want a square softbox. Portability is very important to me because I have to bring these things to the subway or bus to go anywhere.

That's why I consider to buy the Firefly 65. I just wonder is it as good as I think. Now that the Firefly 65 and Fotodiox 60 are at the same price. I really don't know which one I should buy.

According to a few review I read in the Internet, the Firefly 65 gives quite soft and even light because it has the deflector attached to the diffuser. The Fotodiox seems to have better construction, but the light quality may be not as good as the Firefly 65. Furthermore there're complains that the Fotodiox 60 eats quite a lot light and still there are hot spot at the center. Those are just my thinking based on what I read. Do you have experience with one of them? Which one I should buy?

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In reply to jamesdo, Feb 22, 2013

I've used the 20-inch Aurora Beauty Box quite a bit and love it. Solid construction, metal bracket, it doesn't feel like a cheap umbrella but instead a quality piece of equipment.

I recently compared the FBO 65, which is the 26-inch newer model, on Amazon to the 20-inch, have only used the 65 so far in test shots:

http://www.amazon.com/Aurora-Firefly-Beauty-Octabox-Mounted/dp/B0065PBK5S/ref=cm_aya_orig_subj

The 20-inch is more portable, mount it on a cheap monopod and you can easily navigate through crowds. The 26-inch is noticeably larger, haven't tried it in a crowd yet but I can imagine it will be a tougher squeeze.

I was concerned the FBO 65 doesn't have the hotspot-blocking mirrored patch the 20-inch Aurora has, but it doesn't appear to need it, I took this shot which shows very even lighting across the face of the FBO 65:

http://wingedmammal.com/action_photos_2013/action_photo_130202.shtml

If you want to see examples of the 20-inch, I have lots here taken at a costume convention, I expect the 26 to be a touch softer:

http://www.wingedmammal.com/dragoncon_2012/dragoncon_2012.shtml#.USbyOqWsh8E

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Brent Allen Thale wrote:

I've used the 20-inch Aurora Beauty Box quite a bit and love it. Solid construction, metal bracket, it doesn't feel like a cheap umbrella but instead a quality piece of equipment.

I recently compared the FBO 65, which is the 26-inch newer model, on Amazon to the 20-inch, have only used the 65 so far in test shots:

http://www.amazon.com/Aurora-Firefly-Beauty-Octabox-Mounted/dp/B0065PBK5S/ref=cm_aya_orig_subj

The 20-inch is more portable, mount it on a cheap monopod and you can easily navigate through crowds. The 26-inch is noticeably larger, haven't tried it in a crowd yet but I can imagine it will be a tougher squeeze.

I was concerned the FBO 65 doesn't have the hotspot-blocking mirrored patch the 20-inch Aurora has, but it doesn't appear to need it, I took this shot which shows very even lighting across the face of the FBO 65:

http://wingedmammal.com/action_photos_2013/action_photo_130202.shtml

If you want to see examples of the 20-inch, I have lots here taken at a costume convention, I expect the 26 to be a touch softer:

http://www.wingedmammal.com/dragoncon_2012/dragoncon_2012.shtml#.USbyOqWsh8E

Thank you very much. Your comment really helps me.

I think you bought the first version of the FBO 65, which doesn't include the anti-hotspot patch. I see all FOB 65 sold here including the anti-hotspot patch exactly like the FBO 50. The size of the path are the same in two version.

I recently know that Aurora introduced the new version of Firefly Beauty box namely Firefly II. As you can read in the website : http://www.alb.co.kr/eng/product/detail.aspx?pCode=78&idx=53

The only different between the two version is that the center pole of Firefly II is screw threaded onto which the optional deflector DFS15 can be mounted. This deflector turns the Firefly II into a beauty dish. I really don't know how effective it is. But it looks interesting.

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Chances are that little deflector should work well. I noticed that Aurora is also out with an XL unit that's more of a traditional Octa -- and allows for grids.

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I don't have experience with the particular product you are asking about, but I'd recommend checking out SMDV Diffuser-60 and Diffuser-50.

I've been using them for about 3 months now.  Very very convenient.  Super fast set up.  Very well made.  Light quality is very good.

They all go very good reviews.

See the link below.

http://www.amazon.com/Speedbox-Diffuser-60-Professional-Hexagonal-Speedlight/dp/B00AA5LPT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366256206&sr=8-1&keywords=diffuser-60

http://www.amazon.com/Speedbox-Diffuser-50-Professional-Hexagonal-Speedlight/dp/B00AA5AWDU/ref=pd_sim_p_4

I sometimes even use Diffuser-50 when I'm chasing my little ones.  I basically hold the flash and the softbox with my left hand and handle my camera with my right hand.  Because of the size of the softbox, it's not so easy.  So I'm rather itching to try out the smaller Diffuser-40 for that purpose.  But because of the compact size and build quality of the softbox, the handholding method works while chasing little ones indoors.  Quality of light, of course, is so much better than Gary Fong or other cheaper/smaller softboxes ...

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The OPs Adorama link shows the 50 series.  The OP wants the 65 series.  The difference is that the 50 series will have the silver centre dot on the diffusion panel.  I have the 65 series 29 inch in diameter without the silver centre dot on the panel.  The softbox does soften the light of my Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT.  The Gary Fong Collapsible Cloud Generation Five without the dome aimed vertically at a white ceiling 2-3 feet overhead will produce almost a shadow free and brighter image, however.

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jp1958 wrote:

The OPs Adorama link shows the 50 series. The OP wants the 65 series. The difference is that the 50 series will have the silver centre dot on the diffusion panel. I have the 65 series 29 inch in diameter without the silver centre dot on the panel. The softbox does soften the light of my Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT. The Gary Fong Collapsible Cloud Generation Five without the dome aimed vertically at a white ceiling 2-3 feet overhead will produce almost a shadow free and brighter image, however.

I wish to clarify my above comment.  The version that I have is Version I and is the combination silver/gold lining.  Therefore, the diffusion panel does not have the 6 inch centre silver dot.  The silver dot will clash with the silver/gold colour of the lining.  Plus, Version I cannot accept the Version II silver cup which has a male threaded rod.  Version II comes in either a gold or silver lining.  But, each version has slightly different stock accessories.

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