NEX Rumors !!

Maybe it was already posted, but, here goes.

The next new NEX will be a full frame 35mm. sensor with E mount lenses.  Sony has been able to successful confine a full frame sensor in a small body with the Sony RX-1 which has proven to be very popular.  I really, really hope it has an EVF like the 6 and 7.  They are planning to make this new NEX available sometime in 2014 if not before.  (From NEX Rumors)

The current E-type lens for the NEX camaers are APC format.  An APC lens will not work on a FF sensor.  If Sony has a FF Mirrorless camera a new lens will have to be developed if the new FF camera has an E-type mount.

The is already thread on this topic.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50842781

No, APS-C e-mount lenses will function just like any APS-C-designed lens does when put on a full-frame camera, it will automatically go into crop mode just like in the Full Frame VG900.

However, if Sony doesn't release a couple/few good primes as well as a small zoom (designed to cover FF) with the camera's launch, they will surely be criticized heavily.

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Any FF NEX is, perhaps, going to appear sometime in 2014.

An update to the NEX-7 is due THIS year.  It will NOT be FF.

Why?  The supposed FF NEX is supposed to be 'Dual' mount.  That being the case, there is a boatload of FF A-mount lenses to choose from.  Zero need for a native e-mount FF lens.

And: Not to forget all the millions of FF manual lenses available for little money on the second hand market, that will all work on such a NEX with adapters. Maybe the existing adapters will even work - I have a collection of almost 10 of them.

Yes it`s true that NEX cameras can be used with a wide range of quality 3rd party & legacy lenses but their use would be vastly improved if in-body image stabilisation was available.

Potential FF users will come mainly from within existing ranks of experienced users who will expect IBIS & if this feature is not provided then it could arrive dead in he water.

I do not believe this.

it is almost not possible to get an full frame sensor in an small body ,then the diameter from the lens will be big.To big to be practice.

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As JPG says, take a look at the RX1. It's not a huge camera. I don't see any reason why a full frame NEX couldn't be the same size as the current NEX bodies.

Full frame lenses can be pretty small in diameter, I can't see an issue there. There may be a problem with them needing to be long in order to get them to be telecentric. I am hoping Sony has something up their sleeve to allow a full frame sensor to work well with non-telecentric lenses, so legacy rangefinder lenses will work well on the full frame bodies.

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I think it would be wise of Sony to have two or three primes available in FF E-mount, to show they believe in the camera.

As such lenses would also work on the other NEXes with the usual crop, they are not a big risk.

How is that? NEX 7 thrived rather well with legacy manual lenses for this population of users, despite the UWA issues. I don't think "vastly" is the correct descriptor in this case because the population of users you are talking about are experienced ones. True, there are spoiled by IBIS or lazy ones among those who are not careful when they release the shutter but many more can live with the combination of no IBIS and manual legacy lenses and already have with the APS-C NEXes.

I doubt that Sony are going to release the NEX 7 replacement in 2014, that would be too late. The NEX 7 came out in August 2011.  Sony didn't manage to launch the NEX 7 successor at this year CES .... which doesn't mean that they will defer the launch till 2014.

I still think that, unless Sony intends to scrap the "E-Mount" and opt for the CSC system that would utilise the standard Sony/Minolta lenses .... using the full frame sensor in the NEX range would be impossible.  The camera body would need to be much larger, hence defeating the reason for the CSC.  You might just as well bring out smaller range of DSLRs with the fixed Pellix mirror. Thus achieving similar results to mirror-less camera [like NEX 6, 5R and 7].

Sony is going to stay with APS-C format sensor ... and possibly hike up the number of pixels, whilst improving the processor to keep the low level light sensitivity in line with the current levels of APS-C 16 MPx sensors.

What I would like to see is the electronic filtration over the unfiltered Sony sensor. So that you can use the electronic Infrared setting ... rather than sticking the IR filter on the lens, or  having Sony to reset the camera for Infrared photography. I would like to see the electronic filtration draw [similar to the mechanical filter draw used on mirror lenses] and the sensor left unfiltered.  Fuji already use the improved filtration on their sensors ... so for Sony to go one step further, by having user selected electronic filtration ... would be the win-win situation.

There are so many different makes of manual and older generation A/F lenses available cheaply now ... and as you say, with large supplier accessory base; there are currently adapters for almost any lens manufactured since 1935. The "In body stabilisation" is not of primary importance for people using the NEX 7 cameras, specially if they are [like myself] using manual lenses in manual focus and aperture priority setting.

** The Parkinson obviously didn't know what he is talking about !

The only thing that gets in the way of a good photograph is the "man behind the camera"  .... I have seen many times a good photograph being produced from the below average camera and by contrast a below average photograph produced by the guy, who thought that having the professional camera will make him into a great photographer.

Would love to use rangefinder lenses on a Nex , unfortunately Sony is not Leitz

And with a full frame the same Leitz solution is needed and it seems, very expenive.

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Exactly ... Sony needs to bring the NEX 7 replacement out NOW. I am quite certain that large NEX resellers already know that it will come out within the next 2 month. I have noticed that John Lewis shops in London have already reduced the NEX 7 cameras by 10%. The NEX 7 with standard [black] 18-55 kit lens is £20.00 cheaper than NEX 6 with the 16-50 kit lens.

The successor to NEX 7 will probably retain the 3 dials of its predecessor, but no doubt the functionality will be improved [the NEX 7 menu was idiotic] and the new generation of APS-C sensor / processor will be probably introduced. The NEX 5R resistive screen might be brought in as well, as well as Wi-Fi ability to allow for remote camera function control and the remote viewing of what camera sees ... on your smart phone or tablet. That would bring the revolution in to the wild life photography, investigative photography etc.

I wonder about this. Why are we told to switch off stabilisation when using the camera on a tripod?

My guess is that a stabilised image is better than bad camera shake (for instance at 1/8 sec) but not as good as no camera shake.

I think that most people buying the NEX 7 and it's successor ... will be people who are keen enthusiasts, or semi-professionals e.g. people who know about using tripods and props when situation requires it. The image stabilisation is something that just adds to camera complexity and it is something that might be better suited to NEX F3 than to NEX 7 successor.