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Olympus trys to Calm our fears once more
3 months ago
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After the slew of "what does like to produce products for 43rds and m43rds mean", and the reduction of production being the sign they will make one more body and annouce the end of the system (laughable)... Here we have Olympus saying, no holds barred they will continue to produce DSLRs....
Anyone read into that m43rds, anyone read into that a dead system? They will probably have a body between the 620 and e-30 and a body between the e-30 and e-5 for size reduction... Both will be considered potential upgrades for m43rds users who want to access HG lenses and Olympus will continue to work on the potential One Beautiful System
Enjoy, Olympus has been as direct as I can imagine them to be.
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Re: Olympus trys to Calm our fears once more
In reply to alatchin,
3 months ago
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Source ?
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Re: Olympus trys to Calm our fears once more
In reply to goblin,
3 months ago
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Here's the source...
In reply to goblin,
3 months ago
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/02/13/Olympus-denies-ceasing-DSLR-production
God Bless,
Greg
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You beat me Pris! (n/t)
In reply to daddyo,
3 months ago
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God Bless,
Greg
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Great news and...
In reply to alatchin,
3 months ago
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This is a very wise move on the part of Olympus -- to clear the air and make a definitive statement on this issue.
The rumor mill is a dangerous thing:-)
God Bless,
Greg
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Sorry, didn't mean to hurt :) n/t
In reply to daddyo,
3 months ago
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Olympus assures us of a DSLR - and what size?
In reply to alatchin,
3 months ago
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alatchin wrote: ...
... They will probably have a body between the 620 and e-30 and a body between the e-30 and e-5 for size reduction... Both will be considered potential upgrades for m43rds users who want to access HG lenses and Olympus will continue to work on the potential One Beautiful System
Enjoy, Olympus has been as direct as I can imagine them to be.
Good comments. Thanks for the post. I actually missed that news on the home page today.
Some people understood from Toshi Terada's announcement 10 days ago (link below) that Olympus would aim for a smaller DSLR. We'll have to wait and see what he meant by " ... And also it needs to be the right size - the benefit of Micro Four Thirds and Four Thirds is compact size. ..."
For my use, I like the size and weight of the E-5. I can't see how they'd fit all of the easy access creative controls and a swivelling LCD on a smaller body that's as rugged and weather-proof as the E-5.
The Olympus announcement on 2/2/2013: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7898773566/cp-2013-interview-with-olympus-toshi-terada
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Dave
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Re: Olympus assures us of a DSLR - and what size?
In reply to dave gaines,
3 months ago
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dave gaines wrote:
For my use, I like the size and weight of the E-5. I can't see how they'd fit all of the easy access creative controls and a swivelling LCD on a smaller body that's as rugged and weather-proof as the E-5.
Olympus has made miniaturization of cameras and lenses major priority from the days of the Pens and Pen F's. That was the quality of the OM that made it so revolutionary. And they essentially did it all over again - digitally - with the 400 series and the E- 620.
There is a good chance that such miniaturization is exactly what they are working on - in combination with the problem you have cited - in a successor to the E-5 (isn't it interesting, how often the E-620, which did indeed have almost everything the E-3 did, come up in this discussion.)
I think that you are in a minority in your championing of the E3/5 chassis. I have owned and used every Olympus DSLR except the E300 and the E-520. IMHO the E-1 is the most ergonomic camera they have produced, followed closely by the E-620 and the E-420. The E-3/5 bodyi simply too big and heavy, especially for those of us who like to carry and use at least two bodies and a reasonable assortment of lenses.
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Good points about size
In reply to erichK,
3 months ago
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You've recognized the advantages Olympus has had with small cameras from the beginning.
My first DSLR was the E-3. The E-5 is the same size body with a larger LCD screen and one less button, the battery door release. I really like the rugged, weather-proof body of the E-3/E-5. The only other Olympus to have this is the E-1. Besides that, I have large hands with long fingers so I like a big grip.
We'll have to wait and see what Olympus actually offers.
I think the biggest size advantage Olympus DSLRs have is in the telephoto lenses.
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Dave
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Re: Good points about size
In reply to dave gaines,
3 months ago
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dave gaines wrote:
You've recognized the advantages Olympus has had with small cameras from the beginning.
My first DSLR was the E-3. The E-5 is the same size body with a larger LCD screen and one less button, the battery door release. I really like the rugged, weather-proof body of the E-3/E-5. The only other Olympus to have this is the E-1. Besides that, I have large hands with long fingers so I like a big grip.
We'll have to wait and see what Olympus actually offers.
I think the biggest size advantage Olympus DSLRs have is in the telephoto lenses.
I wouldnt mind a smaller E-5/3 now mind you, not E620 size... But I can see the potential for a rethink. Maybe not as small as the E-620, as they m43rds for the absolute smallest, and not as big as an E-5/E-30... Think how many here lauded the Pentax size... Maybe that big?
To be honest I have had the E-300 and the E-3 and didnt mind either of them, I am a young man and I dont have the worry of weight (unless lugging equipment to an on-site shoot) but I do want the choice of an OVF / EVF, when I cant tell the difference (and we are close) I wont mind, but EVFs have their strengths, as do OVFs and I think, judging by everything Olympus has said, they understand that as well.
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Re: Great news and...
In reply to daddyo,
3 months ago
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daddyo wrote:
This is a very wise move on the part of Olympus -- to clear the air and make a definitive statement on this issue.
The rumor mill is a dangerous thing:-)
Especially here huh?! I look forward to a bit of peace here
God Bless,
Greg
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Re: Olympus assures us of a DSLR - and what size?
In reply to erichK,
3 months ago
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erichK wrote: MHO the E-1 is the most ergonomic camera they have produced, followed closely by the E-620 and the E-420. The E-3/5 bodyi simply too big and heavy, especially for those of us who like to carry and use at least two bodies and a reasonable assortment of lenses.
but those of you who prefer to carry and use at least two bodies and a reasonable assortment of lenses are a small minority vs those who just want a normal sized camera that are comfortable to work with and do not carry 2 bodies and dozen lenses...
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Re: Olympus assures us of a DSLR - and what size?
In reply to erichK,
3 months ago
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erichK wrote:
I think that you are in a minority in your championing of the E3/5 chassis. I have owned and used every Olympus DSLR except the E300 and the E-520. IMHO the E-1 is the most ergonomic camera they have produced, followed closely by the E-620 and the E-420. The E-3/5 bodyi simply too big and heavy, especially for those of us who like to carry and use at least two bodies and a reasonable assortment of lenses.
IMO the E-30 is the minimum size a new DSLR should be, and there needs to be a solid grip to go with it.
If you have used a ZD90-250mm or ZD300mm then you will understand the importance of having a substantial body on the end of those lenses. If Oly gives us a small DSLR then they need to offer a really BIG pro grip to go with it.
If in your opinion ZD300 owners are in such a small minority that we don't count and that Oly should cater for the 'majority', you need to consider that the ZD is the Olympus Flagship lens and it truly is an optical gem, and Oly needs to support it with a decent sized body. To cut it out of consideration is just the start of a road down to the ordinary. And those special lenses will be just curiosities.
But with a proper pro 4/3 DSLR with a new sensor behind these lenses Oly shooters will not only out-reach the FF competition (we already do) they will have the IQ and high ISO performance as well to be stand-out alternatives to Canon and Nikon. Hey, if the new camera sells well Oly might just keep the 4/3 DSLR alive and one day we might even see a 400mm F/4 prime
Peter
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Re: Olympus assures us of a DSLR - and what size?
In reply to Messier Object,
3 months ago
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A 400 f4 would be nice especially priced near a 35-100 or less. I just have this feeling that Olympus is going to surprise everyone like they did with the OMD and their new DSLR is going to be a hit.
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Hold on a minute
In reply to alatchin,
3 months ago
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Read this news story carefully:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/02/13/Olympus-denies-ceasing-DSLR-production
It says two things:
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Olympus E-30
Olympus E-PL2
Sony SLT-A55
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Re: Hold on - the empty glass
In reply to Marty4650,
3 months ago
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Marty, your glass is not half empty. It's not just empty, it's dry as a bone. Your pessimism is as deep as the well.
You have to read today's news along with Toshi Terada's statement from earlier this month. He's not talking about continuing the existing DSLRs. He's talking about new camera bodies.
The Olympus announcement on 2/2/2013: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7898773566/cp-2013-interview-with-olympus-toshi-terada
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Dave
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Re: Hold on a minute
In reply to Marty4650,
3 months ago
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Marty4650 wrote:
Read this news story carefully:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/02/13/Olympus-denies-ceasing-DSLR-production
It says two things:
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Olympus E-30
Olympus E-PL2
Sony SLT-A55
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The renewed speculation about what Olympus is going to do with its camera division has almost certainly come about because of a presentation they gave to analysts at their results.
The slides show contains 2 bullet points on the imaging division
* Reduce personnel by 10% from March 2012
* Cut SG&A expenses 4bn YOY
There is then --> Further drastic reform is under review
The underlining is not mine it is Olympus's and it is the only planned action that is underlined in the presentation of the entire business.
And remember six months ago, Olympus was forecasting a profit for cameras and now it is forecasting a loss of 15% of sales. Anyway there is bound to be speculation about what 'drastic reform' of the business actually entails.
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Re: Olympus trys to Calm our fears once more
In reply to alatchin,
3 months ago
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nice to see a clear statement
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Re: Hold on a minute
In reply to Marty4650,
3 months ago
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From Oly statements mirrorless market-share is growing in US but it's not on fire. Obviously Oly will look to increase their sales as the mirrorless market-share grows.
Conjecture to say where the money is being lost. Has Oly made any announcements?
From what I see in London most tourists have mobiles and advanced compact cameras or a DSLR. I don't see many P&S basic cameras. I have seen a few people shooting with iPads though:) The global economy isn't booming that bubbles over. Price will be important to consumers and Pros going forward as the global squeeze continues on house-hold budgets and profit margins.
They need think out of the box make their advanced compacts and basic mirrorless and DSLRs able to stick photos/videos straight onto Facebook et. all. Add Full HD video recording. Consumers will care less about MPs are more about usability and convergence...