Landscape camera

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smkpga
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Landscape camera
Feb 12, 2013

I shoot mostly landscapes and golf courses.  I currently use the Olympus e5 with the 12-60 and 50-200 lenses.  I am thinking of selling all my Olympus equipment and starting with a new system.  What camera would you suggest and what two lenses to go with that camera.  My budget would be $8,000 or less.

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Steve

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What is your finished product -- prints (large or small), Web or computer viewing, magazine?

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D800E                           $3300

14-24mm2.8                    1800

70-200mm2.8 VR2         2400

Total                              $7500

That would replace your old system very nicely.

Use the extra for Cards, cable release, filters.

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In reply to smkpga, Feb 12, 2013

smkpga wrote:

I shoot mostly landscapes and golf courses. I currently use the Olympus e5 with the 12-60 and 50-200 lenses. I am thinking of selling all my Olympus equipment and starting with a new system. What camera would you suggest and what two lenses to go with that camera. My budget would be $8,000 or less.

Thanks,
Steve

The D800E with 14-24/2.8 is pretty well the best landscape combo in existence, but there are some options that would be almost as good as well, for less money.

With your budget, I would get:

D800/D800E

Nikon 14-24/2.8 (or 16-35VR if you need to use screw on filters)

Nikon 24-70/2.8

Nikon 70-200/2.8 VR II (Or 70-200/4 VR if you like)

Without the 70-200 you would be well under your budget. You could also use a D600 instead of D800 and not be giving up much if you want to save another $1000 for lenses or to keep in your wallet.

Between the D800E and 14-24 though, there is no competition from anywhere else in the DSLR landscape world currently.

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Mostly prints

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D800e, 14-24, 50 f1.8G, 70-200 f4. Under budget and a full range.

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AllOtherNamesTaken wrote:

Between the D800E and 14-24 though, there is no competition from anywhere else in the DSLR landscape world currently.

While I agree that D800E is the best landscape DSLR in the FX format, the ultra-wide angle lens choice is a little more complicated. Different UWA lenses have different strengths and weaknesses.

The Nikon 14-24 is very sharp, but has a large bulbous front element. If you wish to use filters you are limited to attaching a filter hold onto the front of the lens. It wont take screw-in filters. At some focal lengths it is a little weak in the corners. There have been complaints about flair and ghosting with this lens as the front element catches light from a large area.

Another lens that is well liked among landscapers is the Zeiss 21mm f/2. It is a manual focus lens, but has excellent image quality. You can find more about it by searing in this forum and on the Nikon SLR Lens forum here at dpreview.

Some like the Nikon 17-35mm and 16-35mm because they take filters. I use the 17-35mm. It is an very good lens, but weak in the corners due to extreme field curvature at the corners. This can sometimes be overcome with focus stacking.

The new Sigma 35mm is supposed to be excellent.

Samyang (Rokinon in the USA) makes some very good and very inexpensive manual focus wide lenses. Their 15mm is said to be very sharp. It's main fault is distortion, which may not matter much with landscapes. They have a 24mm f/1.4, a 35mm f/1.4, and will be releasing a 24mm tilt/shift lens (possibly in March). I have the Rokinon 85mm f/1.4 and am very impressed with the image quality and low cost.

The Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 has good image quality, but is a little weak at 24mm. Best from 28mm up.

There are other choices I've forgotten.

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Thank you for all the great information.

Steve

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D800e

14-24

24-70 Nikon  OR Samyang or Sigma 35 plus 50G 1.8.  I use the little 35D at f8.

70-200VR f4   None sharper.

OR

70-300VR Yes, it's plenty sharp out to 250mm at f8.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51747496@N08/8339091543/sizes/o/in/set-72157630696943482/

Prepare for a shock (a good one) when you open your first batch of raws :^) The "e" makes any lens look great.

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Assuming you want to cover your current range you could get a D800, 24-70 and 80-400. The 80-400 is not that great over 300mm but it may be good enough for your needs. If you need to go wider, the 16-35 is great and takes filters.

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D800E: 3300

Lenses:

Zeiss 21/2.8 Distagon: 1800

Nikon 28/1.8G: 700

Sigma 35/1.4: 900

Nikon 85/1.8G: 600 (I think - can't remember offhand)

Nikon 70-200/4: 1400

A little over-budget, and you'll still need a top end tripod, but that would be my recommendation for a landscape based kit that would be incredibly difficult to beat in terms of image quality for the next several years. If you need a wide zoom and prefer to work at the super wide end of things, the 14-24 can replace the Zeiss, although I think the Zeiss is a bit better at 20mm. If you prefer 24mm as your wide angle, get the Nikon 24/1.4G instead. All of the listed wide angles will require some learning/working around inherent issues on such a high rez body, so it will take some improvement in your craft as well before you master them. 36mp full frame is no joke when it comes to wide angles; none of the wides are perfect although the Sigma is closer than the others- more because 35mm is easier to design than the wider stuff.

Personally I run with a similar kit for landscape: D800E, Zeiss 21/2.8, Nikon 14-24, 24/1.4G, 28/1.4G, Sigma 35, Nikon 85/1.8G and the 200/2G, plus a 24-70 or 70-200/2.8 VR2 if I feel I'll need them.

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I know this may sound like sacrilege to ask this on a Nikon forum, but you haven't said what's wrong with your E5 and why you want to change.

Whatever anyone says, that E5 is a fine camera (don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's as good as the current offerings from Nikon) and Olympus lenses are second to none. Can you say what areas of the E5 you find lacking?

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smkpga wrote:

Mostly prints

If prints >= 17" (short side) I would say D800E

else D600

Plus:

24mm PC-E

45mm PC-E

Gitzo 35xx tripod + RRS BH-55 head

A remote release and a Hoodman Loupe.

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OP has 24 to 400mm the E5 Iam pretty sure E5 has a 2X multiplier to 35mm equivalent focal length. So with with current focul lenght he has now a 24-70 2.8 a 70-200 F4 or 2.8 and then something longer for past 200mm. I would get may a sigma 180 macro or something similar.

Unless he wants alot wider angle of view than he currently has no need for a 14-24 lens.

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smkpga wrote:

I shoot mostly landscapes and golf courses. I currently use the Olympus e5 with the 12-60 and 50-200 lenses. I am thinking of selling all my Olympus equipment and starting with a new system. What camera would you suggest and what two lenses to go with that camera. My budget would be $8,000 or less.

Sigma DP1m and Sigma DP2m

Thanks,
Steve

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PatFahey wrote:

smkpga wrote:

Mostly prints

If prints >= 17" (short side) I would say D800E

else D600

Naw, go with the D800E. It has more advantages than just resolution.

Plus:

24mm PC-E

Or, perhaps the soon to be released Rokinon (Samyang) T-S 24mm 1:3.5 ED AS UMC

45mm PC-E

Gitzo 35xx tripod + RRS BH-55 head

Gitzo 35xx tripod + Arca-Swiss P0 with RRS quick release.

A remote release and a Hoodman Loupe.

RFN-4s Wireless Remote Shutter Release and a Hoodman HoodLoupe 3.0

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Naw, go with the D800E. It has more advantages than just resolution.

Are all those poor deluded people who have settled for the D600 wrong? In this case it would at least appear to have the advantage of helping to stay within budget, which I notice many of the responses above do not.

No commentary above about a combination of the D600, the 16-35, a decent alternative to the 24-70, and whatever 70-XXX floats your boat. That last is particularly conspicuous given that the tele end may be of less importance to a landscape shooter.

A cynic would conclude that the urge to spend money to demonstrate one's prowess is irresistible. You know--D800E and the holy trinity. If there is a valid reason to spring for that money, it has not been shown here.

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sd40 wrote:

Robin Casady wrote:

Naw, go with the D800E. It has more advantages than just resolution.

Are all those poor deluded people who have settled for the D600 wrong?

Of course.

In this case it would at least appear to have the advantage of helping to stay within budget, which I notice many of the responses above do not.

Penny wise, pound foolish. 

There are number of advantages to the D800E besides higher resolution. It has an AF-ON button. It has a wider spread of AF points. It is better built. It doesn't spew debris on the sensor...

No commentary above about a combination of the D600, the 16-35, a decent alternative to the 24-70, and whatever 70-XXX floats your boat.

The post I replied to said nothing about the 24-70 or 70-XXX. It was about the PC-E 24mm and 45mm.

How do you see a 16-35 being a substitute for a 24-70? The D600 is not DX.

That last is particularly conspicuous given that the tele end may be of less importance to a landscape shooter.

Maybe. I often use long lenses for landscapes.

D800E, 300mm f/4

D800E, 210mm

A cynic would conclude that the urge to spend money to demonstrate one's prowess is irresistible. You know--D800E and the holy trinity. If there is a valid reason to spring for that money, it has not been shown here.

And a wise man would say that if you are going to spend $8,000 on a system it is foolish to cheap out on the heart of the system.

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In reply to smkpga, Feb 14, 2013

I have the D800 and 17-35mm. The dynamic range will blow your socks off. I had an E5 as well. You will go into culture shock.

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D800E

Zeiss 21mm, Samyang 14mm & 35mm and Zeiss 100.

Have fun shopping.

Cheers

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