North Korea detonated a nuclear

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In reply to DreamsAreDust, Feb 12, 2013

DreamsAreDust wrote:

Princess Leia wrote:

What should be the response?

North Korea 'tests nuclear weapons' as country

N. Korea had the 'quake?

is shaken by 4.9 magnitude earthquake!

Remember Hitler if the other nations don't do anything to this madness!

If so, all they need do is test a few more and the Earth will solve the problem.. 9.9 Quake right in N Korea.. and the rest of the worlds goes "We told you so.. " and walks away.

Now we know why Third World Nations want nukes. No nukes and they get Iraqized.

With Nukes, we complain to the UN.

I suspect the South Koreans and Japanese, are ​very nervous about all this talk of nuking North Korea.

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The word is nucular.

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interesting, that you see some sort of 'control' of weapons is important . . . that's what many of us have been saying all along.

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you missed my point, I don't care if North Korea get nukes as long as their leader is as decent as Obama but it is quite the opposite.

clearly you are NOT getting my point . . . . because you don't want to and are being your typical close minded 'self'.

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Your point is to take away guns but as you can see here, crazy people will find another weapon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KTibP7GyDE

It is not the weapons, it is the crazy person who will pull the trigger!

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In reply to Princess Leia, Feb 12, 2013

Princess Leia wrote:

What should be the response?

Weak Obama will ignore it for sure...

You're still alive.

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In reply to Princess Leia, Feb 12, 2013

Princess Leia wrote:

What should be the response?

Weak Obama will ignore it for sure...

Obama all talked, in 2008, he promised to eliminate NK's nukes and in 2010, same empty promises. Now the world is living dangerously because USA is really weak under his administration

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/02/12/Remember-When-Obama-Promised-to-Eliminate-North-Korea-s-Nuclear-Weapons-Programs

"So much for “tough diplomacy” from the Obama administration."

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Re: Yep -- China should deal with it so we don't have to.
In reply to Princess Leia, Feb 12, 2013

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Princess Leia wrote:

What should be the response?

Weak Obama will ignore it for sure...

No, he won't ignore it but it might take awhile to figure out what to do about it.

North Korea is a scary place. Their only ally is China and even China is fed up with them.

Two of America's closest allies are Japan and South Korea -- as if we'll sit by while lunatics in North Korea test nukes.

You tested them, that's how you know they work!

Not only tested them, but used them in anger. And, for sure, we have every "right" to stop Iran and North Korea from having nukes.

And who gave you this "right"?

Learn from history...Europe did not pay attention to madman Hitler when he was building his military. I am just glad USA got the bomb first!

and where the f++k were the blessed US army while all this sh+t was happening........and do you think the US army at that time would of been able to do anything........you make other people dumber for reading your posts

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knox wrote:

clearly you are NOT getting my point . . . . because you don't want to and are being your typical close minded 'self'.

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Your point is to take away guns but as you can see here, crazy people will find another weapon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KTibP7GyDE

It is not the weapons, it is the crazy person who will pull the trigger!

I didn't look at your link princess because everyone knows there is a link or story anyone with Google can find to support their opinionated and biased agenda at any given time.  You of all people know this, because that's all you do.  If you were a reasonable person, I would be happy to look at it with an open mind.

Don't put words in my mouth or exaggerate my prior comment princess . . . . I said "control" as in 'reasonable' control of weapons (NOT "take away"), especially those that are made for extreme killing.  Just as you are probably saying about North Korea, but refuse to see the similarities to suit your agendas and wants.  Though I'm sure if it were up to you, you would take away ALL weapons from any country other then America!

My point was clear . . the more weapons, the more opportunity a whacked out person or religious nut (who thinks he is doing it for his God) or a pssed off person can get their hands on one to kill.  Just as you are saying. You just close your mind to my point.  More weapons do not fix anything, in fact they increase the percentages of killing.  Just like NK or Iran having nukes.  "Reasonable' control is needed across the board.

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In reply to Princess Leia, Feb 12, 2013

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On the radio this morning I heard about the bomb North Korea exploded. They also reported that the USA was considering no longer providing foreign aid to North Korea.

NO LONGER PROVIDING AID TO NORTH KOREA?
I don't care what type of aid we provided, it certainly helped them develop the bomb. No doubt we do have too many idiots in North Korea.

I think it was food aid. It is China providing technology to build their nukes. China is using North Korea as a first line of defense against United States!

Had we not provided food aid, it would have been more difficult for North Korea to develop this bomb. The Korean government would have had to spend more money for food instead of technology, or allow more people to die from starvation, or possibly fueled a revolution to overthrow the North Korean government.

In any event, we helped North Korea develop the Atomic Bomb.

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Bill Randall wrote:

Princess Leia wrote:

Bill Randall wrote:

On the radio this morning I heard about the bomb North Korea exploded. They also reported that the USA was considering no longer providing foreign aid to North Korea.

NO LONGER PROVIDING AID TO NORTH KOREA?
I don't care what type of aid we provided, it certainly helped them develop the bomb. No doubt we do have too many idiots in North Korea.

I think it was food aid. It is China providing technology to build their nukes. China is using North Korea as a first line of defense against United States!

Had we not provided food aid, it would have been more difficult for North Korea to develop this bomb. The Korean government would have had to spend more money for food instead of technology, or allow more people to die from starvation, or possibly fueled a revolution to overthrow the North Korean government.

In any event, we helped North Korea develop the Atomic Bomb.

I agree, it is not our job to feed the world.

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Princess Leia wrote:

Bill Randall wrote:

On the radio this morning I heard about the bomb North Korea exploded. They also reported that the USA was considering no longer providing foreign aid to North Korea.

NO LONGER PROVIDING AID TO NORTH KOREA?
I don't care what type of aid we provided, it certainly helped them develop the bomb. No doubt we do have too many idiots in North Korea.

I think it was food aid. It is China providing technology to build their nukes. China is using North Korea as a first line of defense against United States!

You really are a fool Princess . If China wanted North Korea to have a bomb as their first line of defense they would have it by now, they wouldn't be stuffing around like they are now.

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Bill Randall wrote:

On the radio this morning I heard about the bomb North Korea exploded. They also reported that the USA was considering no longer providing foreign aid to North Korea.

NO LONGER PROVIDING AID TO NORTH KOREA?
I don't care what type of aid we provided, it certainly helped them develop the bomb. No doubt we do have too many idiots in North Korea.

I think it was food aid. It is China providing technology to build their nukes. China is using North Korea as a first line of defense against United States!

You really are a fool Princess . If China wanted North Korea to have a bomb as their first line of defense they would have it by now, they wouldn't be stuffing around like they are now.

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Only two countries have pledged no-first-use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_first_use

According to that article, it's three, not two.  The third being (you guessed it): North Korea.

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In reply to Princess Leia, Feb 13, 2013

North Korea has weak bombs and missiles that constantly malfunction, they make have a nuke but no capability to strike an enemy with it. Also if they actually tried to use it then it would be game over for them, not even China would protect them if they actually attacked South Korea, Japan or the U.S. with a nuke.

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aus4ever wrote:

Only two countries have pledged no-first-use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_first_use

According to that article, it's three, not two. The third being (you guessed it): North Korea.

Their self declared status as a nuclear state is still in doubt.

I do believe they are not going to use any nuclear weapon first, unless they are invaded, or they are totally insane.

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Princess Leia wrote:

Bill Randall wrote:

On the radio this morning I heard about the bomb North Korea exploded. They also reported that the USA was considering no longer providing foreign aid to North Korea.

NO LONGER PROVIDING AID TO NORTH KOREA?
I don't care what type of aid we provided, it certainly helped them develop the bomb. No doubt we do have too many idiots in North Korea.

I think it was food aid. It is China providing technology to build their nukes. China is using North Korea as a first line of defense against United States!

That's fabrication Princess.
If China has helped North Korea, it wouldn't have taken them so long and still struggling.

For you, it is okay to arm Japan and the Philippines with nuclear weapons.  But Chinese wisdom is far beyond what you can fathom.  You don't even have enough intelligence to understand Bill's post.

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Re: Nucular! You are wrong, NUCLEAR IS CORRECT
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The word is nucular.

The correct spelling and pronouciation is NUCLEAR

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In reply to Nell27, Feb 13, 2013

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Princess Leia wrote:

What should be the response?

Weak Obama will ignore it for sure...

No, he won't ignore it but it might take awhile to figure out what to do about it.

North Korea is a scary place. Their only ally is China and even China is fed up with them.

If we really wanted the North Koreans to cease their activities we would inform the Chinese that we will no longer sustain the current trade imbalance with them. The North Koreans are very dependent on the Chinese for food and energy resources. The truth of the matter is that the Chinese find the North Koreans a useful (although crude) tool against the West and use them accordingly.

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Marcamera wrote:

Princess Leia wrote:

Marcamera wrote:

Chipsthe1 wrote:

Marcamera wrote:

1. Kennedy vs.Cuba

I do not recall Kennedy making any threats or a comment about using nuclear weapons during the Cuban crisis although it was a long time ago and my memory might be faulty. Would you be kind enough to refer me to a source where Kennedy made that threat. I do recall a threat to blockade and to stop Russian ships but not about the use of the bomb.

Appreciate it.

He said that US would retaliate if need be.

There is no comparing Kennedy with N.Korea's mad man, the point is, that US nuclear weapons and would use them if need be.

N.Koreans are also claiming defensive purpose, words only, I realize.

Rgds

"He said that US would retaliate if need be"

and North Korea threatened to destroy LA more than once!

Quote it. More than once. I found a quote you asked for, your turn.

Rgds

"http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/north-korea-threatens-us-plans-nuclear-test-1" look in my history too...there is a thread about it.

Update: It was a Chinese General who threatened to nuke LA but North Korea threatened to attack USA

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/jul/15/20050715-115416-3571r/?page=all

While those were his personal remarks, he made his point very clear to the US in his speech.

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clearly you are NOT getting my point . . . . because you don't want to and are being your typical close minded 'self'.

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Your point is to take away guns but as you can see here, crazy people will find another weapon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KTibP7GyDE

It is not the weapons, it is the crazy person who will pull the trigger!

I didn't look at your link princess because everyone knows there is a link or story anyone with Google can find to support their opinionated and biased agenda at any given time. You of all people know this, because that's all you do. If you were a reasonable person, I would be happy to look at it with an open mind.

Don't put words in my mouth or exaggerate my prior comment princess . . . . I said "control" as in 'reasonable' control of weapons (NOT "take away"), especially those that are made for extreme killing. Just as you are probably saying about North Korea, but refuse to see the similarities to suit your agendas and wants. Though I'm sure if it were up to you, you would take away ALL weapons from any country other then America!

My point was clear . . the more weapons, the more opportunity a whacked out person or religious nut (who thinks he is doing it for his God) or a pssed off person can get their hands on one to kill. Just as you are saying. You just close your mind to my point. More weapons do not fix anything, in fact they increase the percentages of killing. Just like NK or Iran having nukes. "Reasonable' control is needed across the board.

I see your point but it's quite one thing to be dealing with firearms and quite another with nuclear weapons...with but one being able to wipe out millions with one use. This is the clear distinction between "controls" on these two issues (as I know you are already aware). This is why nations like Iran and NK should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons as they have demonstrated that they are not responsible players. I would put Pakistan in that category as well. I think that at the end of the day, these nations know that if they ever used their nuclear weaponry against the West (and we would likely know if they did) it would be over for them as we would retaliate...disproportionately to their disadvantage.

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Princess Leia wrote:

What should be the response?

Weak Obama will ignore it for sure...

Obama all talked, in 2008, he promised to eliminate NK's nukes and in 2010, same empty promises. Now the world is living dangerously because USA is really weak under his administration

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/02/12/Remember-When-Obama-Promised-to-Eliminate-North-Korea-s-Nuclear-Weapons-Programs

"So much for “tough diplomacy” from the Obama administration."

You're right, Obama is all talk and everyone knows it. One need only look at what's happening in the world and his reaction to those events to underscore this. He's certainly not someone who likes America and is interested in the betterment of our country...far from it.



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