Comments please on photo wanted 5D MIII

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billorg
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Comments please on photo wanted 5D MIII
Feb 8, 2013

Are there any redeeming qualities to this picture I took? Canon 5DMIII and Sigma 12-24 @12mm Just really wanted to test this lens out and we had a nice day. Comments please, thanks. Click "View: original size" link to see best quality - it definitely loses impact the way it looks below. Bill

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In reply to billorg, Feb 8, 2013

I see what you like about this picture.

If it were me, I would crop it differently to remove some distractions, and make the horizon less centered.  Also would clone out some of the distracting elements like the white stakes, and small bright objects.

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In reply to billorg, Feb 8, 2013

I think technically it's very good. I love the B&W converstion.

Either the crop or the position you shot from relative to the foreground objects seems a bit strange. There's a lot of empty grass before the trees. It would be interesting to see variations on this.

not sure if you do this often, but I find myself doing it more now I shoot film. I look at the image in the viewfinder and think to myself. Would I print this? Then I move around a bit, repeat the question. Ask myself why not, keep moving etc.

With digital you have the benefit of taking all of these different views and culling them later.

In saying that, if you shaved about 15-20% off the bottom of this image giving a wider aspect ratio, I think it would look better

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Re: Comments please on photo wanted 5D MIII
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billorg wrote:

Are there any redeeming qualities to this picture I took? Canon 5DMIII and Sigma 12-24 @12mm Just really wanted to test this lens out and we had a nice day. Comments please, thanks. Click "View: original size" link to see best quality - it definitely loses impact the way it looks below. Bill

I'm afraid it doesn't do anything for me.  e.g. not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at. The house is too far away, the trees are uninteresting and the grass and the sky are a bit boring (I guess you could try cropping out the bottom part of the grass and also PPing the sky a bit more to make it look more dramatic).

If it was a photo of my house I might think differently about it though.

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In reply to billorg, Feb 8, 2013

I would crop to show less of the grass on the foreground. Pull shadows on the sky. Subtle vignetting and see how it looks.

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In reply to billorg, Feb 8, 2013

What do you want us to look at? One of the trees or the house in the distance? Nicely processed but no focus to the image, nothing that intersting to look at that isnt very small. How about going to the building and finding an intersting angle on that.

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In reply to billorg, Feb 8, 2013

Nice picture; I guess the main thing I would suggest with wide angle is to have either a dramatic landscape to bring it all in, dramatic sky against a low horizon to emphasize the size of the sky relative to subjects on the ground, or (especially this) a relatively close-up view of a primary subject with a bit of dramatic distortion (not a person, a thing) and immersed in the context of the environment. There needs to be a subject, I would say. Maybe get closer to one of the trees or the house itself at an interesting angle and show it at 12 mm surrounded by the sky and land. Good processing.

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In reply to cpkuntz, Feb 8, 2013

Thank you for the opinions, I was lost as to what to think about the image. I initially planned  to shoot this picture for the old home, but it seemed to take a backseat to what was the sweeping open areas when I cranked it to 12mm - so I guess I got sucked into that - plus I wasn't able to walk closer which would have been what I'd normally do, so I did the best I could at that distance. I did take a lot more of them, let me see if any others are closer to what some of you describe. Bill

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Isn't 12-24 for crop sensor?

It works on full-frame?

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nvm.

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In reply to billorg, Feb 8, 2013

Here are some UNPROCESSED images I took at the same time.  Can you tell me just for composition if there are any others you like better than the original image I posted in B&W?  Or maybe they all suck?  Thank you!  It really helps to hear what you think.  Again, please click the View Original Size link.  Bill

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Hi, no it's for full frame (one of only 2 ultra wide lenses I know of the other being the Canon 14mm)

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In reply to billorg, Feb 8, 2013

No, I don't feel any redeeming qualities to this image aside from testing your lens.  This photo, to me, is taken with too short a focal lenght (too wide a view) because your subjects (trees) are so far away.  There is no foreground.  Get close to your subjects.  An ultra wide angle lens requires you to be very close to your subject in order for it to not look like it was taken with an ultra wide angle lens.  I have a Sigma 12-24 but rarely use it and should sell it.

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Are there any redeeming qualities to this picture I took? Canon 5DMIII and Sigma 12-24 @12mm Just really wanted to test this lens out and we had a nice day.

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What are you trying to take a picture of?  If you are trying to take a photo of the building, you are much too far away from it with much too short a lens.

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Yes, as I said, I was mainly testing the lens and thought I'd be able to get closer to the house that I ended up being able to (I was already trespassing and didn't want to push it - it is not a private home, but in a somewhat secured area).  Believe me, the area I live in is TERRIBLY ugly with nothing you'd ever want to photograph, so this was the best I could do.  Bill

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If the mansion means anything to you, it's a good shot.

Great grandchildren will value the print.

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billorg wrote:

Are there any redeeming qualities to this picture I took? Canon 5DMIII and Sigma 12-24 @12mm Just really wanted to test this lens out and we had a nice day. Comments please, thanks. Click "View: original size" link to see best quality - it definitely loses impact the way it looks below. Bill

Yeah, needs to be seen large, probably in a big monitor. All landscape picture should be viewed large.

I like it a lot. I like it better than the pictures you have posted later. This picture has a theme, it creates a mood, it speaks to me. It is not a picture of two houses or two trees. It is a picture of two houses in a vast and near emptiness. So, the fact that you have 'uninteresting grass' or empty area in the foreground is important for creating that theme and mood. I don't need to see the houses more clearly than this, they are clear enough when viewed large. If you had moved closer to the houses it would have been a picture of two houses without the impact it has now. I don't think you should make the sky more dramatic. Your foreground is dark, by making the sky darker you would lose the contrast and balance it has now. Now my eyes move easily from the foreground (as there is nothing interesting here, although it is important in the context of the theme) through the space between two trees and settle on the houses, then they move to the vast sky (which is interesting, but not enough to hold my eyes there) and settle again on the houses. In the process my brain has absorbed the whole scene, its complementary elements and I can now hear the theme talking.

You can crop a little though, not from the bottom, about 10% from top, right and left. Although you will lose some feeling of vastness in the process (not a lot), the picture will look more balanced without losing its impact.

PS, I love those two little planes.

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In reply to billorg, Feb 9, 2013

it's not a bad shot. you can see some movement on the ground, some undulating,  as if the grass was little ocean waves. but  you gotta  unroot the sapling on the right, if this is your property, of course,  and remove it form the  scene, because it messes with the perspective and the rule of thirds, and then take the shot again.

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No, this is not my property, it's part of the Howard Hughes Janelia Farm Research campus.

aftab:  Thank you for your thoughtful insight, I was not looking just for people who agreed with what I saw (and none really did)  because I wanted many opinions so I could learn, but interestingly you did, and as I read your post, the words felt like they were mine.  But I didn't know if that was good or not!  I love how sharp the foreground is, it reminded me of B&W stuff done with Rollei's in the old days. I guess I was trying to see if I could make SOMETHING out of a very average scene, and I agree, just taking a picture of the buildings would miss the impact created by all the open spaces and sky.  Thanks, Bill

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Maybe a crop, see more of the house otherwise gets a

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