D4x rumor

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teodorian2
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Feb 4, 2013
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In reply to teodorian2, Feb 4, 2013

If a pro DX shooter was looking for an upgrade, I don't think paying $7,000.00 plus dollars for a D4x would be the way to do it.   Consider the "pro DX" D300s is only $1700.00 dollars.   A little overkill costs wise don't you think.   Only for those with very, very deep pockets.

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Lifer wrote:

If a pro DX shooter was looking for an upgrade, I don't think paying $7,000.00 plus dollars for a D4x would be the way to do it. Consider the "pro DX" D300s is only $1700.00 dollars. A little overkill costs wise don't you think. Only for those with very, very deep pockets.

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I paid $1,624 for my D300S, new, so yea, I think I will go for the $7,000 model next.

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Since I can't really trust my D800E autofocus system to work across all points, looks like I need to wait a year and spend an extra $4000 for a working AF system.

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Sweet ... the more new FX DSLRs that come out, the more the bottom drops out of the used FX market.

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If your D800 doesnt cut it...
In reply to Reimar Gaertner, Feb 4, 2013

Reimar Gaertner wrote:

Since I can't really trust my D800E autofocus system to work across all points, looks like I need to wait a year and spend an extra $4000 for a working AF system.

If your D800 doesnt cut it... spend it on a good book !

Some of the user base dont know how its AF system works.... and I dont think of those that

have real issues with the outer left AF point.....

Peter

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In reply to teodorian2, Feb 4, 2013

Still hiding the razor blades over in the "Pro" Dx forum.

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Reilly Diefenbach wrote:

Still hiding the razor blades over in the "Pro" Dx forum.

No razor blades for me. I cannot imagine ever needing more than a D300S until it breaks. When that happens I will look at what is available, same as I do with my automobiles.

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Yes, it could work for me...
In reply to teodorian2, Feb 4, 2013

Especially if it supports 7 or 8 fps in 1.2x crop mode.

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Lifer wrote:

If a pro DX shooter was looking for an upgrade, I don't think paying $7,000.00 plus dollars for a D4x would be the way to do it. Consider the "pro DX" D300s is only $1700.00 dollars. A little overkill costs wise don't you think. Only for those with very, very deep pockets.

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If a 36 MP D4x could manage 6 fps in FX, 7 fps in 1.2x crop mode and 8 fps in DX mode with a XQD card, a large buffer, a new or improved AF system and the D4 ergonomics it would be very close to a combined D4 and DX D400 in one luxury package.

Remember that the D2x and the D3 did cost the same at introduction. The D2x did 5 fps in DX and 8 fps in HS crop mode while the D3 did 9 fps with AF in both FX and DX mode.

An integrated pro FX and pro DX body would be worth a lot. The D300(s) is no more pro than the D800(E) is compared to the D2, D3 and D4 series.

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In reply to rayman 2, Feb 4, 2013

rayman 2 wrote:

If your D800 doesnt cut it... spend it on a good book !

Some of the user base dont know how its AF system works.... and I dont think of those that

have real issues with the outer left AF point.....

Peter

No need for insults.

I'm not a retard - I'm a full-time photographer who knows how AF systems work.  In my opinion, even with the required +17 AF fine tune setting my camera now needs, AF consistency is just not reliable in any of the outer AF points.  Even the center ones occasionally inexplicably miss.  I think Nikon can do better.

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In reply to Reimar Gaertner, Feb 4, 2013

Reimar Gaertner wrote:

rayman 2 wrote:

If your D800 doesnt cut it... spend it on a good book !

Some of the user base dont know how its AF system works.... and I dont think of those that

have real issues with the outer left AF point.....

Peter

No need for insults.

I'm not a retard - I'm a full-time photographer who knows how AF systems work. In my opinion, even with the required +17 AF fine tune setting my camera now needs, AF consistency is just not reliable in any of the outer AF points. Even the center ones occasionally inexplicably miss. I think Nikon can do better.

I wasnt pointing at you   just  ponting at the D800 cant do it thing.... but we get some questions in the forum that show the

lack of knowledge of how the system works.......

Nikon not even discloses properly how it works....

The problem is that focus accuracy cant be tested the way that most people do it because

the focus points are not the ones that the camera uses and biases to in the end.....

AF system is very complex.....

So I did not want to insult anybody...... !

Peter

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teodorian2 wrote:

Could this be an option for both pro FX and pro DX users?

http://nikonrumors.com/2013/02/04/more-nikon-d4x-rumors.aspx/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NikonRumors+(NikonRumors.com)

>Could this be an option for both pro FX and pro DX users?

  • "Same body as the Nikon D4"

NO for DX users. The brick will not fly for DX.

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In reply to ScottRH, Feb 4, 2013

Not much of a point in holding one's breath waiting for a pro DX body to succeed the D2xs.

Perhaps there will be a D300s successor that will be pro/semi pro DX. But that'll be it.

I think it's still worth it to build a DX D300s successor. I hope Nikon does it. I won't buy one though. This D200 is the last DX Nikon SLR I'm messing with.

I like APS-C, though, and I think it makes more sense if it's done the way Fuji has build the X-Pro1: a full-frame APS-C camera where the camera was designed from day one to be APS-C. (Unlike Nikon's DX bodies, which are saddled with legacy 36x24mm sensor constraints ... DX is rather "hackish" compared to what Fuji did with the X-Pro1.)

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In reply to teodorian2, Feb 4, 2013

The pro bodies have a lifespan of 4 years. There's not the ghost of a chance Nikon will use a 36MP sensor in its flagship pro body a year after having introduced 36MP in a semi-pro camera. The D?x bodies have always pushed the limits, the 54MP/74MP sensor rumored for a long time now sounds more like it.

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The only thing that would stop me from buying a D4x...
In reply to teodorian2, Feb 4, 2013

...is if Canon release a high resolution/high speed 1DXs first.

I really like the idea of a high resolution/high'ish speed camera in a pro body.

But what bothers me is the ever widening lead in Canon lenses. For the moment I'm happy with Nikon sensors/bodies, but not with their glacially slow lens development. If Canon close the sensor performance gap, for me, it's game over Nikon.

Thom's nicely summarized my concerns regarding lenses today...

http://www.bythom.com/

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Geomaticsman wrote:

...is if Canon release a high resolution/high speed 1DXs first.

I really like the idea of a high resolution/high'ish speed camera in a pro body.

But what bothers me is the ever widening lead in Canon lenses. For the moment I'm happy with Nikon sensors/bodies, but not with their glacially slow lens development. If Canon close the sensor performance gap, for me, it's game over Nikon.

Thom's nicely summarized my concerns regarding lenses today...

http://www.bythom.com/

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Yeah, Thom's a little upset with Nikon. It started a little over a year ago. But he is correct, Nikon needs to crank out some more lenses. That said, lets see what excellent glass is available that is relatively new:

1- 24mm f1.4 . . . excellent and new

2- 28mm f1.4 . . . excellent and new

3- 35mm f1.4 . . . excellent and new. Sigma or Nikon. Sigma wins this one!

4- 50mm f1.4 or f1.8 . . . I believe the 1.8 to be sharper and a better bargain

5- 85mm f1.4G . . . excellent and new

6- 70-200 f4 . . . excellent and new

7- 2 new PC lenses

8- A monster 800mm f5.6 tele

9- New zoom, 18-35

10 Fairly recent 16-35 f4

11- And many that are only 2-3 years old, like the 200mm f2

I am sure I have left out someone's favorite, but this is an awful lot of relatively new glass. Now if dpreview could just review a few more!!!









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Re: The only thing that would stop me from buying a D4x...
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And all these would work great on a D4x.

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Gary, like me, pretty much only cares about the supertelephotos. Imagine shooting a 16 year old Canon supertelephoto! But my 500 f4 AF-S stands up in the Nikon world precisely because Nikon hasn't got the weight down - without sacrificing strength or optics - the way Canon has. Oh, and when they finally got around to doing it with the 800 f5.6 they want a $7,000 premium over the Canon!

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Steve Bingham wrote:

Geomaticsman wrote:

...is if Canon release a high resolution/high speed 1DXs first.

I really like the idea of a high resolution/high'ish speed camera in a pro body.

But what bothers me is the ever widening lead in Canon lenses. For the moment I'm happy with Nikon sensors/bodies, but not with their glacially slow lens development. If Canon close the sensor performance gap, for me, it's game over Nikon.

Thom's nicely summarized my concerns regarding lenses today...

http://www.bythom.com/

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Gary -- Some Nikon stuff -- and a preference for wildlife in natural light
www.pbase.com/garyirwin
http://photographersonlinemagazine.blogspot.com

Yeah, Thom's a little upset with Nikon. It started a little over a year ago. But he is correct, Nikon needs to crank out some more lenses. That said, lets see what excellent glass is available that is relatively new:

1- 24mm f1.4 . . . excellent and new

2- 28mm f1.4 . . . excellent and new

3- 35mm f1.4 . . . excellent and new. Sigma or Nikon. Sigma wins this one!

4- 50mm f1.4 or f1.8 . . . I believe the 1.8 to be sharper and a better bargain

5- 85mm f1.4G . . . excellent and new

6- 70-200 f4 . . . excellent and new

7- 2 new PC lenses

8- A monster 800mm f5.6 tele

9- New zoom, 18-35

10 Fairly recent 16-35 f4

11- And many that are only 2-3 years old, like the 200mm f2

I am sure I have left out someone's favorite, but this is an awful lot of relatively new glass. Now if dpreview could just review a few more!!!









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Hi!

And the Canon folks have been waiting for a Canon version of the 14-24 and 200-400 f/4 (announced , but not released).

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50662391

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50787975

RB

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