Minolta 24-85mm RS f/3.5-4.5 on Full Frame

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Waardij
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Re: FF sample Min 24-85 RS 24mm at f8
In reply to cgarrard, Feb 4, 2013

What is the difference, in quality,between the RS and non RS? is it only the looks and the shape of the aperture, or is there more going on?

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Re: Minolta 24-85mm RS f/3.5-4.5 on Full Frame
In reply to cgarrard, Feb 4, 2013

A900 + Minolta 24-85mm

Mine lives on my A900 most of the time, performs so much better throughout the range than one would expect. I bought mine new some 10 years ago for very little money when I used it on my Minolta 9xi

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Re: Minolta 24-85mm RS f/3.5-4.5 on Full Frame
In reply to jeep, Feb 4, 2013

I have replaced my kitlens on my A100 with the 24-85 rs many years ago. I now use it on my A580. I have been looking for a lens that offers the same in color, sharpnes and contrast, but a little wider. I owned a Tamron 17-50 2.8, but sold it again.

The looks of my copy are not that good anymore, but I somehow still am not able to find the perfect replacement for it. The size and weight of the lens are just perfect and make a good pair with the A580.

I have been looking on the internet for some reviews of this lens or comparisons to more modern lenses to see if these reveiws match my feeling about the lens, which is very positive. Unfortunately there is not much to find, but if one of the gents is willing to make some comparisons with the moders stuff I would be happy to see your results. Although the information from David is more then enough for me to keep my copy But in the end its always nice to read that you have made a good decision buying this lens and who doesn't like that.

Thanks guys for your info.

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Re: FF sample Min 24-85 RS 24mm at f8
In reply to Waardij, Feb 4, 2013

Waardij wrote:

What is the difference, in quality,between the RS and non RS? is it only the looks and the shape of the aperture, or is there more going on?

RS = re-styled = slight design differences.  You can see them on the Dyxum website, otherwise the same lens.

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Re: Minolta 24-85mm RS f/3.5-4.5 on Full Frame
In reply to Bosman71, Feb 4, 2013

I have to agree with you. On my a580 it's the 'bees knees'. My copy is going nowhere . I got it last year for about the equivilent of 80pounds here in NZ. Bought it in anticipation of ff but works really well on crop.

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Re: Minolta 24-85mm RS f/3.5-4.5 on Full Frame
In reply to Bosman71, Feb 5, 2013

I just recently acquired the older version of this lens from KEH.  I had to send my A35 into Sony for a repair so I was not able to test it much.  First few random shots I took looked good though.  I've been using it on my 800si in the meantime and am going to get a couple of rolls developed next week.

Reviews here sound reassuring so I'm excited to get my camera back this week to try it out some more.  I just got a 28-105 xi for next to nothing a week ago that I am going to try out as well which I may or may not keep.  I'll try and post some results when I get my camera back.

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In reply to cgarrard, Feb 16, 2013

And it's every bit as good as I remember it to be :). Got a really nice copy too, its like new, all original caps, box, paperwork, manual- everything.

Only a bit of CA's evident at 100%, easily removable in Photoshop.

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In reply to cgarrard, Feb 16, 2013

Good to see you are happy Carl.

Please keep us informed about your further experiences with this lens.

Here is one from my A100. taken on the Hautakam in the French Pyrenees. Taken without any filters and no PP straight out of cam jpeg.

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Lovin' my 24-85 RS
In reply to Bosman71, Feb 24, 2013

One of the true delights of using the alpha system is the variety of midrange zoom lenses available, especially in the Minolta line. Does any other mount offer a choice of walkaround zoom lenses as broad/ There's the the splendid little 35-70/4 "prime zoom", the excellent and massive 28-135/4, the first-gen Baby Beercans, and my own favorite, the 24-85 RS. It's fortunate that the 24-85 is actually an excellent lens, because its light weight and ideal size & range make it irresistible anyhow. PLus a non-rotating front element? Check. A sturdy, petal-shaped lens hood? Check. On my a850, it's just big enough to balance the camera nicely, and keeps the size of the whole package similar to many lesser DSLRs.  And that 24mm setting is indispensable. When you need wider, you really need it. You can't crop more wide into my photos in PP.

The sharpness it gives is noticeable even before enlargement. I may not have the most critical eye, but I've only found one optical flaw with the M24-85. The bokeh can be harsh -- perhaps the result of its two aspherical elements? This lens was the first to use two asphericals, IIRC, so it was stretching the state of the art back in the mid-90s. I've seen in listed in contemporary magazine ads for $450, so it took the place of the Zeiss Vario-Sonnar back in its day. I'm happy to pay $150 for a good used copy, especially since the lenses have gained stabilization in the intervening years!

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Re: FF sample Min 24-85 RS 24mm at f8
In reply to Waardij, Feb 24, 2013

Waardij wrote:

What is the difference, in quality,between the RS and non RS? is it only the looks and the shape of the aperture, or is there more going on?

I think the main difference is the circular aperture blades.

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Re: FF sample Min 24-85 RS 24mm at f8
In reply to tqlla, Mar 10, 2013

As a result of what I read here, I tried three copies of the 24-85. and none of them was as good as I had hoped. It can be that I was simply very unlucky, but I suspect the lens is not as good as I was made to believe. I directly compared one of them with my copy of a Minolta 24-105, and the later is better in the whole range from 24-85 (at f8 and f11). All three copies of the 24-85 had centering problems and varying amounts of field curvature, but even on their 'good' side, they where not great. and compared to the ZA24-70, all of them are mediocre lenses. The ZA is better at f4 then either of the other lenses is at any aperture. The ZA shows both more resolution and more contrast. There is however a thing I really like about my copy of the 24-105; stopped down to f16 it is still very usable. more so than most lenses.

One more point; when used against the light, both the 24-85 and the 24-105 are not great. the ZA is not the best lens with the sun in the frame (the ZA16-35 is much better), but much better than either Minolta zoom.

maybe I am just very critical, and I am sure fine pictures can be made with the 24-85. But expectations must be realistic. it is not a modern high performance zoom.

For the price, it is certainly not bad.

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Re: FF sample Min 24-85 RS 24mm at f8
In reply to Waardij, Mar 14, 2013

Waardij wrote:

Maybe I am just very critical, and I am sure fine pictures can be made with the 24-85. But expectations must be realistic. it is not a modern high performance zoom.

For the price, it is certainly not bad.

You're right to be critical as these are just bread and butter lenses, but some are better than others (such as the MIN50F17 and 28-135 Macro) but to name two, though I concur that more modern lenses are undoubtedly better in controlling CA/PF by virtue of the additional lens coatings, though TBH, the older SLR lenses would normally be used with filters in their day whereas they're not required with modern optics (unless for transporting/protection or more specialist types such as ND and CPL for example) as UV, Skylight or similar degrade IQ and can introduce flaring and reflections.

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