X-trans sensor problem?

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Chris Dodkin
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Never seen it in use

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JimMc wrote:

plevyadophy wrote:

JimMc wrote:

Chris Dodkin wrote:

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How much of a problem is this when shooting jpegs? Thanks.

It's not a problem

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Thanks, Chris. I'm planning to purchase the X100s.

Actually, it is a problem ............ but just less so: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50736159

I was glancing at the dpreview review of the Pro1 and noticed this. It's rare that this probem occurs.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-pro1/16

Read the link I provided earlier, and within it you will find detailed analysis of the problem by Chromasoft. On this issue I trust Chromasoft more than DPReview.

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plevyadophy wrote:

JimMc wrote:

plevyadophy wrote:

JimMc wrote:

Chris Dodkin wrote:

JimMc wrote:

How much of a problem is this when shooting jpegs? Thanks.

It's not a problem

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Thanks, Chris. I'm planning to purchase the X100s.

Actually, it is a problem ............ but just less so: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50736159

I was glancing at the dpreview review of the Pro1 and noticed this. It's rare that this probem occurs.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-pro1/16

Read the link I provided earlier, and within it you will find detailed analysis of the problem by Chromasoft. On this issue I trust Chromasoft more than DPReview.

Regards,

plevyadophy

The problem with the Chromasoft guy's initial write-up is that he comes acros as someone who's just pi$$ed-off at Fuji for making him think more and have to re-code his software.

Then he seems to infer that it's all their fault that he can't get it to work well.

In his November 2012 follow-up posts, he admits that his initial preconceptions were wrong, now that he's had more time to investigate the new sensor.

He does of course now have something to sell, AccuRaw - so he's clearly got an incentive to differentiate his product from the competition.

I'm sure that doesn't influence his judgement in any way though...

I'll give the guy props for taking something and making it into a revenue opportunity - he's clearly put some time in here

And it does illustrate that building post processing software for non-Bayer sensors is not a 5 minute process - but we knew that already...

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In reply to plevyadophy, Jan 26, 2013

plevyadophy wrote:

JimMc wrote:

plevyadophy wrote:

JimMc wrote:

Chris Dodkin wrote:

JimMc wrote:

How much of a problem is this when shooting jpegs? Thanks.

It's not a problem

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Thanks, Chris. I'm planning to purchase the X100s.

Actually, it is a problem ............ but just less so: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50736159

I was glancing at the dpreview review of the Pro1 and noticed this. It's rare that this probem occurs.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-pro1/16

Read the link I provided earlier, and within it you will find detailed analysis of the problem by Chromasoft. On this issue I trust Chromasoft more than DPReview.

Regards,

plevyadophy

Do you have any experience with X-trans raw and/or jpeg files?

From my testing, using OOC  jpegs and LR4.3 raw conversions printed @ 10"x15" on an Epson 3800 the images are quite acceptable. I've yet to encounter the watercolor effect or smearing to the extent that a printed image is unacceptable.  Yes I can PP the files at 400% and see the attributes that some find so devastating. However they are not perceptible to the naked eye in the prints.

Are raw conversions of Xtrans files equivalent to Bayer sensor raw files?  When pixel peeped, maybe not so much. That having been said the X-trans files make very good prints.

In my experience the knicker twisting that goes on about the 'X-trans sensor problem' has little to do with the photographs that the X-trans equipped tools are capable of.

For those who like to pixel peep for the ideal file this sort of kerfuffle is quite entertaining. However the horse has been beaten to death.

The X-pro1 is the most fun I've had with photography in 30+ years. The prints from the X-trans sensor are fine.

-Framus

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Hi,

It seems like it maybe your RAW convertor could be at fault. If you are using a mac try Iridient Developer RAW convertor. It's much better than ACR 8.1 in my opinion. I've got some really unbelievable detail from my XE-1 and X20. Give it a try.

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mystik12 wrote:

Hi,

It seems like it maybe your RAW convertor could be at fault. If you are using a mac try Iridient Developer RAW convertor. It's much better than ACR 8.1 in my opinion. I've got some really unbelievable detail from my XE-1 and X20. Give it a try.

And if you're not a Mac user, try the new release candidate of Photo Ninja.  Looks very similar to what we've been seeing from Iridient.

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