Canon IPF6400 Printer
Printing with border Sal.
Thanks for your thoughts SJPhoto. Another incicdent came to light and am very grateful to the guy concerned for his honesty. Last Thursday made a final call to the Canon chap who has been helping me throughout all of this. We were arranging the collection of my 6400 and my refund. He said that earlier in the week his office had to print a large image for a client. He has had a 6300 in his office for the last two years and apparently it has always worked perfectly. On this particular day the print was produced and it was only when they went to roll it up that they realised there was a line going across the full length of the back of it. He was shocked as they've never had any probs. before. Apparently they tried different tricks to rectify the prob. but to no avail; their 6300 is now producing the line on the back of prints. I was really grateful to him for this info. as I had wondered if I could get a 6400 without any probs. it would be prob. be okay from then on. As he said whose to say that it won't kick in at a later date tho'.... as it has with his. He was really apologetic. Canon need to deal with this - it's not fair on folk and there are many dealers still unaware of the prob. Have now placed my order for the Epson 7900 - I know it has heaps of good reviews and have had personal recommendation, but I had my heart set on the Canon. Am really pleased that all is well with your Canon SJPhoto and I truly hope you've got a goodie and that it stays that way.
Well, I think with all these printers, their is the possibility of something going wrong. The more I use mine the more I see how sophisticated they are. The only problem i ran into so far was with very thick curly near the end of the roll printing. Once I increased vacuum and head strike distance it cleared some faint ink lines on the unprinted border of the image, which would only appear in the first inch or so of a new print. This was a quick fix and had nothing to do with any inherent problems of the printer. It was nice to know these adjustments are available for precisely this problem. For me so far everything is smooth sailing. Of course I have only been printing with it for about a month, so time will tell. I'll relay anything that might be relevant to others as time goes by.
Lines on the back have been a problem for many of us. Had the problem at times with my IPF6300's (two of them). Finally traced to the vacuum holes near the paper border. I figured out a way to "tape" over the holes without interfering with the paper or head movement and that seemed to cure the problem. Problem didn't occur on all my papers. At some point I removed the "tape" (can't remember why). For some unknown reason, the black lines have disappeared on their own. Wish I know why. Overall, I've had 4 wide format Canon printers. Have no desire to go back to Epson (other than a 3880 I use for cards and small stuff).
Tony Bonanno Photography, Santa Fe, New Mexico
ASMP General member
No lines on the back, just on part of a border on non border less prints and only at the end of roll paper where there is a lot tightness to the roll paper. Nothing until near the end of a roll and nothing on sheet fed paper.
Don't even think about getting the 7899. I have one for over two years; it is nothing but problem. It clogs constantly. Some nozzles will develop a clog in the middle of a print job. Finally
the clog is so bad it cannot be cleaned using the normal methods. I got so disgusted with it I bought an IPF 6400 last month. Even though I have the Canon for a month, the difference between the two printers is night and day. Now, my only prayer is that I can sell the 7900 for scrap so some one can haul it away.
Just my experience. Hope it helps you.
I understand that this is a fairly old thread, however I am considering purchasing this model after already having done quite a lot of research. Is anyone willing to share how their continued experience with the 6400 has been?
I have owned my iPF 6400 for approx 7 months. Prior to that I owned the Epson 3880. The 6400 is big it makes the 3880 look like a large typewriter. The print quality is as good as the 3880 was but a little better. The reason I bought the 6400 was for the 24" and the idea I didn't have to screw around changing the matt black and PK inks for the different papers I used.
I use my 6400 mainly for pleasure but I make sure I print at least a 13 x 19 every day. This was because of the habit I got into when I had my 3880 with the sometimes clogs I encountered. I didn't have that many clogs on the 3880 but I had them.
I print mainly canvas which is no problem with the 6400, with the 3880 you had to say prayers when you used canvas. There is a learning curve to use the 6400 in fact the first couple of weeks I was going nuts figuring it out. Like everything else once you know what your doing it's a piece of cake to use the 6400. With all the above being said, to me it's a really great machine.
On the other side of the coin is a little different story. I don't know if you know it but the life expectancy of the 2 print heads of the 6400 is approx 1-1/2 to 2 years. A pair of these print heads cost around $1,000. By the way this 1-1/2 to 2 years is from Canon tech support. This $1,000 every 1-1/2 to 2 years I could handle because I really like what the 6400 could do.
My right print head went kaput after only 6 months. Canon replaced it under warranty and I installed it in approx 15 seconds. Canon response was that sometimes a print head may go sooner than 1-1/2 to 2 years. Which is great to know now I can start saving my pennies in case another print head goes in another 6 months and it goes kaput one day after the warranty is up.
The bottom line is I think the 6400 is much better than my 3880 but then again one never knows what's going to happen to any printer you may own.
I am nearing the close of my first year as a photographer that offers professional services, sells artwork both online and locally and does so with a business license too. (I never thought I'd actually start a business but that's a long story) That being said, I don't get into anything unless I go in all the way.
So, when I committed to going professional I decided that in order to fill a niche in my local market I would offer hand crafted, archive quality artwork that was created in house and rarely, if ever, outsource my printing. I studied. I researched. I had no idea what I had gotten myself into. HAHA. I often joke that had I known how much "work" goes into producing consistent, beautiful, quality prints (I also mount and frame), I probably wouldn't have done it In all honesty, I'm glad I did. I'm also glad that I didn't shy away from the learning curves involved with all the new tools.
I am calibrated, view in controlled lighting, print with custom pigments and profiles, and I use my PIXMA PRO-10. I am quite pleased with this machine so my interest in the 6400 is primarily the same as your initial one. 24"x ?? ! Yes Please!
I am not too concerned about ink costs as Precision Colors stocks these pigments and I was impressed with their PGI-72/9 ink. Nor am I intimidated by the tedious task of learning yet another piece of equipment. I am however, concerned about equipment quality, failures, maintenance and repair costs.
I do think that $500/yr as a commitment out of the gate is a bit much but not entirely unreasonable. I'm curious if you refill? Do you reset your maintenance cartridge and/or rinse out yourself? Did you deal with and if so, was it easy to get past any of the common problems I've read of? ie pizza wheel markings, streaks left by the wrap around grooves or paper loading issues?If I may, just one more question..
Given the opportunity and armed with the knowledge that you'd very likely make enough $ from what you printed on it to justify all the costs involved by at LEAST breaking even, would you buy this printer again for the first time?
Thanks for your response man!
To give some idea how good the IPF printers are with clogging.
I purchased a second hand IPF5100 last week to use at a second work location.. It had 60% of its first set of ink catridges left. It showed has been active for 811 days but the last print was in November 2013.
Fired it up and it did numerous nozzle checks and head cleaning then it worked perfectly.
Over 2 years without a print and no problem.
I have been using IPF5000/5100s since they were released, there has been dramas but compared to endless problems we used to have with Epsons they are fantastic