How can any wedding photographer get the shots with the 800?

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Craig
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How can any wedding photographer get the shots with the 800?
Jan 21, 2013

I have a D700 and D3s and I am perfectly happy with the focusing ability of those two cameras and can't imagine missing all kinds of shot because of focusing problems. I grab, aim shoot...I cant wait for it to make up its mind.

Nikon please just take the D3s or D4 sensor and stick it into a D700 body and we are good to go.. thanks.

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Al Giordano
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What are you talking about??

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What are you talking about??

You don't know?

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Today does seem to be 'beat up on the D800 AF system day'.  Somebody have a bad weekend or something?

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Craig wrote:

I have a D700 and D3s and I am perfectly happy with the focusing ability of those two cameras and can't imagine missing all kinds of shot because of focusing problems. I grab, aim shoot...I cant wait for it to make up its mind.

Nikon please just take the D3s or D4 sensor and stick it into a D700 body and we are good to go.. thanks.

Hello Craig. To answer your question: In studio.

My D700 and D3ss are working full time. The 800... and the D4...

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Your subject line and message content have nothing to do with each other. What on earth are you talking about? My D800 focuses just fine, shoots incredible images, and I would have no issues taking it to a wedding.

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Raul wrote:

Craig wrote:

I have a D700 and D3s and I am perfectly happy with the focusing ability of those two cameras and can't imagine missing all kinds of shot because of focusing problems. I grab, aim shoot...I cant wait for it to make up its mind.

Nikon please just take the D3s or D4 sensor and stick it into a D700 body and we are good to go.. thanks.

Hello Craig. To answer your question: In studio.

My D700 and D3ss are working full time. The 800... and the D4...

regards

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Ah, Raul . . . your my hero. I don't know where some of these folks come from.

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Raul wrote:

Craig wrote:

I have a D700 and D3s and I am perfectly happy with the focusing ability of those two cameras and can't imagine missing all kinds of shot because of focusing problems. I grab, aim shoot...I cant wait for it to make up its mind.

Nikon please just take the D3s or D4 sensor and stick it into a D700 body and we are good to go.. thanks.

Hello Craig. To answer your question: In studio.

My D700 and D3ss are working full time. The 800... and the D4...

regards

Raul

Thats nice, have you ever shot a wedding ?

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Daniel Clune wrote:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/09/autofocus-reality-part-4-nikon-full-frame

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Exactly. I trust roger at lensrentals more than people on internet forums.

My d800 is fine. It's not perfect every single time, but NO camera is perfect every single time.

36mp is simply helping you to notice the little errors. I absolutely guarantee that the D700, D3, D3s or D3x were any better. You're just noticing more with the d800 therefore it "seems" worse.

I get those subtle AF errors too sometimes but if you view the file at 12mp size, it's absolutely fine.

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Shaun_Nyc wrote:

Raul wrote:

Craig wrote:

I have a D700 and D3s and I am perfectly happy with the focusing ability of those two cameras and can't imagine missing all kinds of shot because of focusing problems. I grab, aim shoot...I cant wait for it to make up its mind.

Nikon please just take the D3s or D4 sensor and stick it into a D700 body and we are good to go.. thanks.

Hello Craig. To answer your question: In studio.

My D700 and D3ss are working full time. The 800... and the D4...

regards

Raul

Thats nice, have you ever shot a wedding ?

Funny! You might want to do a little research!

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:-OSteve Bingham wrote:

Shaun_Nyc wrote:

Raul wrote:

Craig wrote:

I have a D700 and D3s and I am perfectly happy with the focusing ability of those two cameras and can't imagine missing all kinds of shot because of focusing problems. I grab, aim shoot...I cant wait for it to make up its mind.

Nikon please just take the D3s or D4 sensor and stick it into a D700 body and we are good to go.. thanks.

Hello Craig. To answer your question: In studio.

My D700 and D3ss are working full time. The 800... and the D4...

regards

Raul

Thats nice, have you ever shot a wedding ?

Funny! You might want to do a little research!

What should I research ? Do you have wedding experience w the D800 ?

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Shaun_Nyc wrote:

:-OSteve Bingham wrote:

Shaun_Nyc wrote:

Raul wrote:

Craig wrote:

I have a D700 and D3s and I am perfectly happy with the focusing ability of those two cameras and can't imagine missing all kinds of shot because of focusing problems. I grab, aim shoot...I cant wait for it to make up its mind.

Nikon please just take the D3s or D4 sensor and stick it into a D700 body and we are good to go.. thanks.

Hello Craig. To answer your question: In studio.

My D700 and D3ss are working full time. The 800... and the D4...

regards

Raul

Thats nice, have you ever shot a wedding ?

Funny! You might want to do a little research!

What should I research ? Do you have wedding experience w the D800 ?

Nope. Dozens - with film though (a hundred times slower than a D800). Hated it. Switched to commercial. Much more money, much less work. Do you have any idea who Raul is . . . or what he does? Hmmmm. Research maybe? How about you? Can we see some of your D800 wedding photos? Please. I will be gentle.

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I am only basing on what I have read on this forum about the many complaints on the 800 focusing issues.

I am not knocking other peoples preferences but I know what i need. Split second focusing that nails it.

I do believe the camera would be fine if you are shooting subjects that you have time to make sure you have correct focus, like formals, but even then some are saying the camera with some lens has problems.

Plus the 12 MP.s has more than enough res. for what I need.

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Craig wrote:

I am only basing on what I have read on this forum about the many complaints on the 800 focusing issues.

I am not knocking other peoples preferences but I know what i need. Split second focusing that nails it.

I do believe the camera would be fine if you are shooting subjects that you have time to make sure you have correct focus, like formals, but even then some are saying the camera with some lens has problems.

Plus the 12 MP.s has more than enough res. for what I need.

So, you are complaining about the AF ability of a camera you do not own and apparently you do not need and comparing it to a camera you do own which is enough for you

Sounds to me like you really want one and are doing your best to convince yourself it's not worth it so you feel better about what you have

Mine focuses spot on, left sensor and all. If I view at 100% then I can sometimes see some areas where it hasn't been perfect, but if I zoom out to a viewing distance comparable with 12mp then it's perfect.

When I had 6mp in my D50, I thought that was all I would need, until I got my D200. Of course not everybody has the technique to get the most out of 36mp, but then there is always the option of reducing it to 12 or 18mp and again it comes out great.

However thank you for the detailled critique of something you have no experience of, very informative

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The more you go up in resolution, the more critical focusing becomes.   In any format.    I don't mean to be rude, but he real and/or alleged focusing issues with the D800 is something us "old guys" learned years ago with film.

When i first jumped form 35mm to 120, i found I had to slow down and focus better.  When I bought my first 4x5 (still sue it too), I really had to slow down and learn to fine focus.  with my 8x10, man, it like you take forever to focus and make sure every corner is sharp and the way you like it.

With the D800, everyone, IMO,  is just learning that lesson over again.   there is a reason why the D4 is "only" 16mp and not 32 mp - you need the speed in many situations.

Someday i might upgrade from my D700 to a D800, but I think, if it helps, people should think of the D800 as the "large format" of the digital SLRs.  Back in the days of film, shooting a sports event, I never pulled out my 4x5 or even my 120, I used my 35mm.

The real issue, IMO, there no real replacement for the D700 at this moment.  I've said this before - the D4 is too exepnsive for me, the D600 is a serious amature camera and the D800 is a serious camera for artistic work.    What would be nice is an updated D700.

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joneil wrote:

What would be nice is an updated D700.

Why do you need an updated D700 - FPS only?

Unless you want heavy build and high fps then the d800 can be used and you just output to a lower resolution with the added advantages of more detail at 12mp than a D700 can give you

I really do not understand why a D700 user wanting a new camera cannot find what they want in a D600 or a D800, I would have thought that basically those wanting less MP, more fps and a D800 quality body would not be that plentiful in number

I can understand Nikon's point of view - there maybe a niche in the market, but is there a market in the niche?

For those that still aren't happy, there's always Canon

And I would warrant more have switched from Canon than the other way round

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RP McMurphy wrote:

joneil wrote:

What would be nice is an updated D700.

Why do you need an updated D700 - FPS only?

Unless you want heavy build and high fps then the d800 can be used and you just output to a lower resolution with the added advantages of more detail at 12mp than a D700 can give you

I really do not understand why a D700 user wanting a new camera cannot find

Psssst RP..., fyi most folks dont shoot weddings in jpg or have all day waiting for the buffer to clear

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Steve Bingham wrote:

Shaun_Nyc wrote:

:-OSteve Bingham wrote:

Shaun_Nyc wrote:

Raul wrote:

Craig wrote:

I have a D700 and D3s and I am perfectly happy with the focusing ability of those two cameras and can't imagine missing all kinds of shot because of focusing problems. I grab, aim shoot...I cant wait for it to make up its mind.

Nikon please just take the D3s or D4 sensor and stick it into a D700 body and we are good to go.. thanks.

Hello Craig. To answer your question: In studio.

My D700 and D3ss are working full time. The 800... and the D4...

regards

Raul

Thats nice, have you ever shot a wedding ?

Funny! You might want to do a little research!

What should I research ? Do you have wedding experience w the D800 ?

Nope. Dozens - with film though (a hundred times slower than a D800). Hated it.

ok next ---->

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