I almost bought the wrong 6D today...didn't know there were differences

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I almost bought the wrong 6D today...didn't know there were differences
Jan 21, 2013

I'm just putting this out there in case anyone is looking around for a 6D sale.  I found a great price and called the seller in New Jersey, but after much discussion with him I found out the 6D he was selling did not come with wi-fi or GPS.  Also it had a limited warranty that was not from Canon, which I expected.  After reading many ads for the 6D on various seller websites I found that Canon does offer the camera without wi-f-i and GPS...they are for overseas markets, but find their way here through import resellers.  So, if you are in the market, please beware of what you are buying.  I believe the model labeled 6D (WG) body has the wi-fi and GPS.  Hope this helps someone avoid buying the wrong product.
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Thanks for the info.

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Thanks for the heads up! Heard there was a non GPS version, but thought it was a special order. Is there a big price difference between the two? Happy shooting!

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jjshooter wrote:

Thanks for the heads up! Heard there was a non GPS version, but thought it was a special order. Is there a big price difference between the two? Happy shooting!

I saw the body only listed at a Jersey dealer for $1794...that was non GPS and Wi-Fi...which he was reluctant to tell me until I kept asking about the price difference...so, I assume the warranty and GPS- WiFi is about $200 less

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thanks, I had the impression that the non-Wifi/GPS versions were future discounted models. So they are already on the market ... This is going to cause a lot of confusion, strange that Canon gives them all the same model number

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It is certainly something to be aware of.  As I stated in my original remarks, I believe the designation (WG) refers to the body with the WiFi and GPS built in.  I read the product info on this particular website, and he had two versions available for about $200 difference in price, but of course, did not tell you up front what the differences were.  So, be aware if you find a "too good to be true" price!

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I just checked at B&H, could not find this model. If there are plans to sell it in the US with a US warrentee I might be interested. I have read too many battery drain threads with GPS.

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Ben_Egbert wrote:

I just checked at B&H, could not find this model. If there are plans to sell it in the US

I haven't heard of this model version previously, Since I don't have no use for Wi-Fi or GPS I'd definitely be interested in saving some money on one without those features.

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In reply to Sunpilot, Jan 21, 2013

I bought my 6D (W) from Hong Kong...it's WiFi only, no GPS for a small discount ($50)

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The non Wifi and GPS version was created for sale in those jurisdictions where the local dictator or military junta thinks anybody with a GPS must be a spy or terrorist. I don't believe there is any intention for Canon to sell this one in more normal countries.

I don't think there is much of a production cost in adding these features, so the main discount you will see is due to the camera being a parallel "grey" import. (addit: I see Nigels's reply a couple of minutes ago- $50 difference for no GPS)

As far as battery drain is concerned, best solution is to leave the feature switched off unless required. You have about a thousand shots on a single battery, so if you go out with GPS enabled for a few hours you should be fine.

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rjjr wrote:

Ben_Egbert wrote:

I just checked at B&H, could not find this model. If there are plans to sell it in the US

I haven't heard of this model version previously, Since I don't have no use for Wi-Fi or GPS I'd definitely be interested in saving some money on one without those features.

Check here...http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=47430  for the 6D without GPS and Wifi...price is $1769

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Apparently these are grey market versions. Be careful that you get a warranty that is recognized by Canon USA otherwise they may not repair your camera for no cost during the warranty period.  Another reason to shop reputable, authorized Canon dealers.

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In reply to rjjr, Jan 21, 2013

rjjr wrote:

Ben_Egbert wrote:

I just checked at B&H, could not find this model. If there are plans to sell it in the US

I haven't heard of this model version previously, Since I don't have no use for Wi-Fi or GPS I'd definitely be interested in saving some money on one without those features.

...Canon offered a 6D without WiFi/GPS, but an internal flash with wireless flash control?  Apparently, they occupy the same space.

Which would you prefer?

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In reply to Sunpilot, Jan 21, 2013

This factor is at work with flashes, too. Members have posted that they bought a 600EX from a dealer in New Jersey, only to find that it lacked the radio trigger feature. Some countries prohibit some electronic features, so Canon makes dumbed-down models for those markets. This is not just a camera thing; consider the motor vehicles that are not available in countries with the most stringent rules regaring safety or pollution-contol equipment. For example, I would love to own a certain model of Land Rover, but the USA will not allow its importation, because it has no air bags.

Some dealers, such as B&H, are honest about their grey-market items. Others leave the grey-market factor unsaid, or will be deceptive.

I am not ranting against grey-market items. An educated buyer is what is important. I have recently considered a certain grey-market item, myself.

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Rexgig0 wrote:

This factor is at work with flashes, too. Members have posted that they bought a 600EX from a dealer in New Jersey, only to find that it lacked the radio trigger feature. Some countries prohibit some electronic features, so Canon makes dumbed-down models for those markets. This is not just a camera thing; consider the motor vehicles that are not available in countries with the most stringent rules regaring safety or pollution-contol equipment. For example, I would love to own a certain model of Land Rover, but the USA will not allow its importation, because it has no air bags.

Some dealers, such as B&H, are honest about their grey-market items. Others leave the grey-market factor unsaid, or will be deceptive.

I am not ranting against grey-market items. An educated buyer is what is important. I have recently considered a certain grey-market item, myself.

I agree with you....some resellers do cloud their advertisements.   I am not bashing them either, grey market or imports items have their place...just trying to inform people what to look out for...I almost pulled the trigger on this item...now I know better.

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In reply to Sunpilot, Jan 21, 2013

Sunpilot wrote:

Check here...http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=47430 for the 6D without GPS and Wifi...price is $1769

There are quote a few unkind comments about that particular seller on review sites.  Google their name and add the word "scam" and see what shows up.

Personally I think there are better choices in e-tailers if I were spending my money.

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Not very good reviews for "digital depot online" neither. Scary sellers out there!

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Ben_Egbert wrote:

I might be interested. I have read too many battery drain threads with GPS.

There probably is an option to turn it off, just like on a phone.  Just turn it off when you don't want it to get attached to your photos.  I usually don't take photos in a single day that goes beyond a city or two in the same state, and I name the folder with the event or location so I really have no need for the position on earth being recorded into my photos.

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Nigel Wilkins wrote:

I bought my 6D (W) from Hong Kong...it's WiFi only, no GPS for a small discount ($50)

If I could add GPS to one of my cameras for $50, I'd jump on it.

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Rick Knepper wrote:

Nigel Wilkins wrote:

I bought my 6D (W) from Hong Kong...it's WiFi only, no GPS for a small discount ($50)

If I could add GPS to one of my cameras for $50, I'd jump on it.

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I post on Panaramio, so I would love to have GPS embedded, but I really hate dead batteries. Getting used to a dinky battery after the 1DS-mk3 will be a big shock anyway.

I would consider an add on wi-fi remote and gps that ran on its own battery. Still considering a 5d-mk3, got one coming on loan tomorrow for try out. If it is not a lot better than my 1DS-mk3 at long exposure high iso, I will probably just get a 6D. But if it is good in that regard, I could see getting a wifi attachment.

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