D90 user thinking about move to D600

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tamasine
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D90 user thinking about move to D600
Jan 17, 2013

I hope you folks can give me some advice please. I've been using a D90 for three years now. I have the following lenses:

Nikon 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 VRII

Tokina 11-16mm f2.8

Nikon 60mm f2.8 AFD

Nikon 50mm f1.8 AFD

Nikon AIS 24mm f2.8

Nikon 70-300mm 3.5-5.6 VRII

Whilst I would like to upgrade my camera, I'm not sure what to do. I could wait until there's a D7000 replacement, or I could go to FF and get the D600.

I've never used FF before, but after reading lots of threads here I believe the D600 will offer me a significant upgrade, especially in terms of low light performance and general image quality.

I can see one obvious downside, and that is the lenses. I use my 16-85mm as my walkaround lens and love it. I don't want to carry a huge, heavy lens as I have small hands, so a prime would be better. The most used focal length I shoot at is 24mm (the short end of the 16-85mm). I know I can use three of my existing lenses (I really don't know what the AIS 24mm is going to be like on the D600 or if it will even meter on it).

From those that changed from DX to FF, what am I going to be pleased or disappointed with if I move from the D90 to the D600? Are there any compelling reasons to stick with DX and wait for the D7000 successor?

Thanks for any help you can give me

Btw - I mainly use my D90 for doing landscape pics, long exposures, some HDR, light painting, some macro work, and have just started getting into flash photography (just bought an SB-700!)

T.

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In reply to tamasine, Jan 17, 2013

Go for it!!!

I have used the the D90 for years, and what I am getting out of the D600 in contrast, Dynamic range, focus accuracy, crop-ability, is absolutely amazing.

Not to mention the High ISO capabilities of this camera.

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In reply to Bamboojled, Jan 17, 2013

Be aware that you will need to clean the sensor sooner than you would expect.

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I went from d90 to d600...
In reply to tamasine, Jan 17, 2013

And couldn't be happier.

I had the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 and Tokina 12-24 f/4. I traded both of them in toward the purchase price of my d600. I got the 24-85 VR as part of the kit, and my guess is that it is optically pretty close to the 16-85 (only, obviously, with less reach).

Your 24mm AIS will be great on the d600, with the added bonus of yes, it will meter.

It's a huge upgrade; my guess is you'll be thrilled with the full frame.

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A few pieces of advice, though
In reply to paulski66, Jan 17, 2013
  1. I miss the wide-angle i enjoyed with the 12-24; my guess is you'll miss the 11-16mm range as well.
  2. Batteries aren't compatible; you 'll need to factor in buying a spare.
  3. Unless you happen to have large, fast memory cards that you use with your d90, be prepared to shell out a few bucks for those as well. I'd say minimum of two fast 16 gig cards.
  4. 24 mp files are big. They take up lots of storage, and they take a lot of processing power and RAM to load, manipulate, and batch process. I had a 4 year old computer 3 months ago; now I have a 6 week old computer.
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Re: D90 user thinking about move to D600
In reply to tamasine, Jan 17, 2013

OP....the D600 is a very significant upgrade over the D90...yet I've seen many (and made) wonderful images with the D90.

If I were in your shoes, I'd get the D600 and build a lens kit with the f1.8 primes (28, 50, 85).  Plus a Tamron 70-200 f2.8 VC.  Choose based on your needs and personal prefs.  The Tamron 24-70 f2.8 VC is quite good as well.  I'm a "prime" guy.

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In reply to tamasine, Jan 17, 2013

I upgraded from D90 and it was an upgrade in every single way. There are 4 potential issues which you will have to live with: 1) AF points in FX is not as spread out and even less so in D600. For Rule of 3rd shots, that can be mitigated a bit by cropping given 24mpx. 2) sensor dust issues that show up in low aperture given that you are into landscape. 3) the size is small and feels like you are holding a crop camera... it can be good or bad. 4) your WA crop lenses will not be the same.

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In reply to tamasine, Jan 17, 2013

Thanks for all your replies!  I'll respond below to some of them:

Paulski66

If the 24-85 VR is as good as the 16-85 VR then I would be very happy.  It's my favourite lens of all, not just for the focal range, but for the great IQ, colours and contrast it gives me.  However, from a lot of reviews (professional and consumer) it seems that the 24-85 doesn't have the equivalent performance on FX as the 16-85 has on DX

I guess the way forward is with higher MP cameras now...even on DX we're up to 24MP and the D7000 successor will surely have this as well.  Personally, I prefer lower MP.  I even considered a D700 but I think that would be a mistake in the long run.

Studio311

I already have the AIS 24mm f2.8, 50mm f1.8 and 60mm f2.8.  I would probably get the 24-85 VR if it gave good results, partnered with the D600.  Definitely no heavy lenses for me!

Varuas

That's two of you who have indicated it's a massive upgrade from the D90.  The relatively small size is one of the big plus points, as the D90 is the perfect size for me.

I just feel that to buy another DX camera would be a lateral (and not upwards) move.  Maybe I'm wrong - maybe DX is perfectly fine for my needs.  It's just that now with the price of the D600 coming down, it's really worth considering.

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In reply to tamasine, Jan 17, 2013

tamasine wrote:

Thanks for all your replies! I'll respond below to some of them:

Paulski66

If the 24-85 VR is as good as the 16-85 VR then I would be very happy. It's my favourite lens of all, not just for the focal range, but for the great IQ, colours and contrast it gives me. However, from a lot of reviews (professional and consumer) it seems that the 24-85 doesn't have the equivalent performance on FX as the 16-85 has on DX

I guess the way forward is with higher MP cameras now...even on DX we're up to 24MP and the D7000 successor will surely have this as well. Personally, I prefer lower MP. I even considered a D700 but I think that would be a mistake in the long run.

I've never shot the 16-85, so take this with a grain of salt, but...many of the reviews that I read for the 24-85 VR cite the same issues that I see in reviews for the 16-85 VR: expensive for a kit lens, too much distortion for the price point, too much vignetting at the wide end, sub-pro build quality.

I've found the 24-85 to be sharp, offer nice contrast, have decent build quality (for what it is - I had the 18-135 years ago, and the 24-85 VR definitely seems more solid). It's not my favorite or most used lens, but I would imagine if you like the 16-85, you'll be comfortable with the 24-85.

If you could find a kit deal like that they were offering over Christmas (where the lens was essentially free), then it's a no-brainer IMO.

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Re: D90 user thinking about move to D600
In reply to tamasine, Jan 18, 2013

Love my D600!!

I had the D90 since it was released. It was a great camera but the D600 is an amazing difference in image quality, focus, low light and dynamic range.

I also have the Tokina 11-16mm 2.8 and as long as you’re on 16mm it works just fine with no vignette. 16mm FF is pretty wide. This will have to work until I save up to get something different.

Good Luck

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In reply to tamasine, Jan 18, 2013

It's going to be an upgrade in every single department, except bigger body, and bigger file size.

I'm currently using D90 and planning to go for D600 too. Has been trying the D600 around.

When trying it for the 1st time, the most obvious different is the AF acquiring speed. Miles ahead of D90 and it is so smooth. And next ofcos is the noise performance which is awesome!! (expected from a FF).

Seems like the kit lens can direct replace your 16-85mm. And beware, the large file size, and finest jpg setting, D600 file size is about 3x of D90. needless to say if you shoot raw.

And i'm glad that i already got myself 2x16gB Sandisk extreme SD card. Good Luck!

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In reply to tamasine, Jan 18, 2013

I also just migrated from the D90 to a D600. Build quality is similar (so if you were happy with the BQ of the D90 ...) but the IQ is a significant improvement.

There's just no way I could get the IQ out of the D90, over a number of years (and D80 and D40X before that), that I'm getting with the D600.

The only other bit of photographic equipment that I'm enjoying as much as the D600 is my Zeiss 35 F2 lens - I don't please easily.

I could have chosen either the D600 or D800 but decided to save the difference for (another) Zeiss lens. Initially using my 4 year old laptop to open and process the D600 NEF files took long enough to be painful (Capture NX and Lightroom) so I'm glad I went for the D600. On an i5 desktop the processing is much faster but still a tad too slow. I'm unlikely to require the 36 MP to facilitate really large prints anyway.

There are those that complain about dust and oil (non yet on mine but only 200-300 actuations) but this is a simple matter to overcome. I clean my camera on the outside anyway so the 'inside' is not a biggy.

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In reply to Antony John, Jan 18, 2013

I went from the D70-90-300s to the 600 & could not be happier. I went to Huntington Beach for work this week & snuck out early before our meetings & shot what you see below. I didnt bring a tripod & only had the old Tamron 28-75 and i still got some nice results. I shoot sports with it & it really works well. Do I have to remove the occasional dust spec? Absolutely, and yes at a pace greater than my other other bodies, but I would not give this camera up at this point, no way....

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In reply to mrjpack, Jan 18, 2013

Some very encouraging replies - thank you! (and great pics too!)

My first camera was a D40 and it also seems that the D600 might be as big a jump from the D90 as the D90 was from the D40.

As for lenses, I will probably get the kit lens (24-85mm VR) as it has received some pretty good reviews.  I'll also buy the Af-S 50mm 1.8G.  I can use my existing AIS 24mm f2.8 (although I suspect the 24-85 will probably be better at 24mm).  I know someone mentioned using the 11-16mm Tokina at the 16mm end so I'll try this too.

Would it be possible if you guys could please show some pics showing the D600's dynamic range and high ISO abilities (maybe at ISO 3200 and 6400)?

Thanks once again :))

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In reply to tamasine, Jan 19, 2013

The first two photos i posted where at 4000 & 3200. Ill have to search to find others higher than that...

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In reply to night1981, Jan 19, 2013

night1981 wrote:

Love my D600!!

I had the D90 since it was released. It was a great camera but the D600 is an amazing difference in image quality, focus, low light and dynamic range.

I also have the Tokina 11-16mm 2.8 and as long as you’re on 16mm it works just fine with no vignette. 16mm FF is pretty wide. This will have to work until I save up to get something different.

Good Luck

the tokina at 16mm on d600 is the same as it at 11 on the d90.  maybe even a little wider! i have that combination also.  it works well.  of course an uwa for FF would be better, but that could come later if necessary.

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In reply to tamasine, Jan 19, 2013

I never thought the 11-16mm could work on the D600 - does it lose any IQ at all?

My biggest concern was having to give up some of my lenses but it seems that the only one I'd have to lose is my 16-85.

Do any of you use the AFS 50mm f1.8G on your D600?  It seems a no brainer at the price for a general walkabout lens?

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tamasine wrote:

I never thought the 11-16mm could work on the D600 - does it lose any IQ at all?

My biggest concern was having to give up some of my lenses but it seems that the only one I'd have to lose is my 16-85.

Do any of you use the AFS 50mm f1.8G on your D600? It seems a no brainer at the price for a general walkabout lens?

I have & use the 1.8D...

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In reply to tamasine, Jan 20, 2013

Given what appears to be prominent sensor dust issue on the Nikon D600's, if it were me, I would wait.

I just returned my D600 due to dust problem.

If the dust on sensor problem is not solved in couple of months then I will just get a refund.

My solution in the interim: upgraded APS-C body to Sony Nex-5R. ( This is my p&s )

Haven't thought much about the dust since then.

I hear Nex full frame maybe released toward the end of this year.

If Nikon drags their feet too long, maybe I'll just switch to Nex altogether.

Happy to report that there were no dust on sensor found for the Nex.



tamasine wrote:

I hope you folks can give me some advice please. I've been using a D90 for three years now. I have the following lenses:

Nikon 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 VRII

Tokina 11-16mm f2.8

Nikon 60mm f2.8 AFD

Nikon 50mm f1.8 AFD

Nikon AIS 24mm f2.8

Nikon 70-300mm 3.5-5.6 VRII

Whilst I would like to upgrade my camera, I'm not sure what to do. I could wait until there's a D7000 replacement, or I could go to FF and get the D600.

I've never used FF before, but after reading lots of threads here I believe the D600 will offer me a significant upgrade, especially in terms of low light performance and general image quality.

I can see one obvious downside, and that is the lenses. I use my 16-85mm as my walkaround lens and love it. I don't want to carry a huge, heavy lens as I have small hands, so a prime would be better. The most used focal length I shoot at is 24mm (the short end of the 16-85mm). I know I can use three of my existing lenses (I really don't know what the AIS 24mm is going to be like on the D600 or if it will even meter on it).

From those that changed from DX to FF, what am I going to be pleased or disappointed with if I move from the D90 to the D600? Are there any compelling reasons to stick with DX and wait for the D7000 successor?

Thanks for any help you can give me

Btw - I mainly use my D90 for doing landscape pics, long exposures, some HDR, light painting, some macro work, and have just started getting into flash photography (just bought an SB-700!)

T.

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