canon 85mmf1.8 for 50D

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cjhuang
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canon 85mmf1.8 for 50D
Jan 16, 2013

Looking to add a "walkabout" lens and wonder if the canon 85mm f1.8 would be a good choice that would complement what I have but not be rtoo redundant.

Uses- portraits and candid shots as well as photos inside ballet studio or theater (most challenging bc of low light and theater spot lights). I have a 50d and currently have:

Nifty fifty, Tamron 70-200 f2.8, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6

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In reply to cjhuang, Jan 16, 2013

cjhuang wrote:

Looking to add a "walkabout" lens and wonder if the canon 85mm f1.8 would be a good choice that would complement what I have but not be rtoo redundant.

Uses- portraits and candid shots as well as photos inside ballet studio or theater (most challenging bc of low light and theater spot lights). I have a 50d and currently have:

Nifty fifty, Tamron 70-200 f2.8, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6

thanks!

If you already have a 2.8 70-200 I would not suggest it. I'd instead try saving up for a full frame body that will do better in those low light theater and studio shots and investing into a Canon 70-200 F4 IS after getting rid of the Tamron.

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In reply to cjhuang, Jan 17, 2013

It's a great lens for headshots on a crop body (I use it with a 7D). If you're sure the focal length is right for what you want to do, it's excellent value.

For indoor work, the difference between 1.8 and 2.8 is significant - more than a stop so.

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In reply to Sovern, Jan 17, 2013

Sovern wrote:

cjhuang wrote:

Looking to add a "walkabout" lens and wonder if the canon 85mm f1.8 would be a good choice that would complement what I have but not be rtoo redundant.

Uses- portraits and candid shots as well as photos inside ballet studio or theater (most challenging bc of low light and theater spot lights). I have a 50d and currently have:

Nifty fifty, Tamron 70-200 f2.8, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6

thanks!

If you already have a 2.8 70-200 I would not suggest it. I'd instead try saving up for a full frame body that will do better in those low light theater and studio shots and investing into a Canon 70-200 F4 IS after getting rid of the Tamron.

That's around $2500 (6D plus lens) rather than $350, not to mention the cost of replacing the 17-50 and the 10-20, both of which are APS-C designs.

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In reply to cjhuang, Jan 17, 2013

For me the question would be "Do I need this if I have the 50 1.8 already?". On a crop camera the 50 is great for portraits and has the same aperture. The build on the 85 is far better but I would note that for indoor candid shots on a crop camera, it is a bit long. Bokeh on the 75 can be very pleasing. I think that it is a fun lens for shooting outdoors and especially useful in low light but it isn't necessary. Of course, I own both...but use the 85 more.

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In reply to cjhuang, Jan 17, 2013

cjhuang wrote:

Looking to add a "walkabout" lens and wonder if the canon 85mm f1.8 would be a good choice that would complement what I have but not be rtoo redundant.

Uses- portraits and candid shots as well as photos inside ballet studio or theater (most challenging bc of low light and theater spot lights). I have a 50d and currently have:

Nifty fifty, Tamron 70-200 f2.8, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6

thanks!

i can't speak for your other lenses but 85mm f1.8 is a very good one with excellent subject isolation for candid shots or anything else for that matter!

cheerz.

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The 85 / 1.8 was my most used lens on a 20D...
In reply to cjhuang, Jan 17, 2013

cjhuang wrote:

Looking to add a "walkabout" lens and wonder if the canon 85mm f1.8 would be a good choice that would complement what I have but not be rtoo redundant.

Uses- portraits and candid shots as well as photos inside ballet studio or theater (most challenging bc of low light and theater spot lights). I have a 50d and currently have:

Nifty fifty, Tamron 70-200 f2.8, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6

thanks!

...but it was often a bit long -- a 60 / 1.4 would have been better.  Still, that didn't stop me from making good use with it:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/40149949

So, 50 / 1.4 is a bit short, 85 / 1.8 a bit long -- choose your poison.  There's also the Sigma 85 / 1.4 for double the money, which has been well received.

You already have the 50 / 1.8, so if you get the 85 / 1.8 and like it, you may find that the 50 / 1.8 you already have is a bit too close, and may wish to consider a 30 / 1.4 or 35 / 1.4 to complement it.

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In reply to cjhuang, Jan 17, 2013

When I was using my 40D, I loved the 85 1.8. It was decently sharp wide open, and super-sharp stopped down to f/2.8. The AF is very fast and accurate, the colors and contrast were very pleasing.

When I traveled, my kit was often only the 17-55 f/2.8 and this 85 1.8.

That said, I never considered this a walk-around lens. It was my vacation telephoto/action/portraits lens (I had a 70-200L 2.8 IS as well, but that was too heavy for me to travel with).

The only real issue was lots of purple fringing. I nick-named mine my purple lens. However, it's easy to remove the fringing in post-processing.

Some sample shots with 40D and the 85 1.8:

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It would be a good walk about depending. You indicated portraits, candid’s and theater low light opportunities. For portraits from 3.5 feet to about 8 feet from the subject (close as you can to fill the frame). Candid’s from 12 to 15 feet. I also have used a 1.4 for a little more reach (Kenco Pro 300) in my candid’s with great success. That gives you a 190mm F2.6 after figuring your crop factor and the multiplier and light loss for the 1.4. That would work well for the candid’s and depending on the reach you need and available low light theater..?

When shooting portrait’s wide open at around min focusing distance the DOF is very narrow. The subject has to be close to parallel to the lens at F1.8 and around F3.2 when shot at angle. (Focusing on the leading eye)

Making sure your background is far enough away adds to the magic of this lens in what it will do to out of focus features when shot close to wide open, close to the subject.

I might be reading to much into it. But I got the portrait’s and candid’s are a passion for you as well as your theater. If a little more reach than your 50 would be a sweet spot for you. You might find this lens on your camera all the time. As far as a bang for the buck lens for $360 it is hard to beat. There is of course the 85 1.2 at $2000. It is better than the 1.8 in all by a bit but AF speed and weight. For myself I don’t have that kind of cash floating around.

I’m showing 3 shots that in 2 of them show you the DOF issues I was talking about. For me the 85 1.8 is one of my favorite lenses.

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In reply to cjhuang, Jan 20, 2013

cjhuang wrote:

Looking to add a "walkabout" lens and wonder if the canon 85mm f1.8 would be a good choice that would complement what I have but not be rtoo redundant.

Uses- portraits and candid shots as well as photos inside ballet studio or theater (most challenging bc of low light and theater spot lights). I have a 50d and currently have:

Nifty fifty, Tamron 70-200 f2.8, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6

thanks!

I would think that the 85 would be a bit long for a walkabout lens, especially on an APS body. Having said that, I have both the 1.8 and 1.2 lenses and use both an equal amount. the f1.8 is a beautiful lens that is light to carry and delivers great shots. Personally, I would have thought your nifty 50 would be OK as a walkabout, although its bokeh's not too good. For portraits tough, you can't go wrong with the 85.

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In reply to cjhuang, Jan 21, 2013

I think it's worth it. The focal length is not as versatile as the 50 1.8 but extremely flattering. Also the lens is deliciously fast to focus, and the bokeh is lovely.

I've had mine for a couple of months on a 450D and use it as much as possible (but the 50 is still my walkabout as I find it more practical).

I tried to insert a pic I took today but it didn't work. My kitchen is a mess, so I NEED the 1.8! Here's the link: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/monvisoview/8402057423/" title="The boy by Monviso View, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8402057423_0885b107ca_o.jpg" width="640" height="427" alt="The boy"></a>

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