Macro question....

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vishal540 Junior Member • Posts: 34
Macro question....

Hi everybody,
I am new to JJM. Well I have a question to ask regarding macro photography. I have D5200 and 60mm F2.8G ED lens. I don't know why I am not able to get close to my subject. People say in dedicated macro lens you don't need any extra things like a closeup filter and neither extension tubes.. then why I am not able to get too close ... Am I doing anything wrong here.???

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bgD300 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,552
Re: Macro question....

The 60mm f2.8G should get you to 1:1 magnification without any additional equipment.

What are you trying to shoot?  There are a number of alternatives ranging from simple reversing mounts to apochromat lenses to extension tubes and bellows.

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vishal540 OP Junior Member • Posts: 34
Re: Macro question....

Hi bgD300,

I am uploading an image of a spider in original JPEG file without crop.. Let me tell you that the image uploaded is the closest my lens let me do in manual mode... Image was taken at ISO 100, Aperture 3.8, shutter speed 200sec. and using external flash..........I just wanna know how other people fill the entire frame.. Do I have to use extension tube, bellows etc..???

Thanks...

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bgD300 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,552
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It's hard to tell without knowing the size of the spider.  One way to see how close you can get is to set the lens to minimum focus distance in manual mode and then move in and out over a newspaper.  You will be able to tell how close you can get when you see the type come in to focus.

Another thing to do is to continually work on technique until you get the image really, really sharp.  This will then allow you to crop your image to create an apparent increase in magnification.



A bee at less than 1:1

The same Bee butt from the picture above.  Inverted.

This was taken with the 105mm but, my 60mm is equally sharp.

I always use at least a monopod when shooting macros to minimize camera movement.  I sometimes need to use a clamp to minimize subject movement.

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mbernard Senior Member • Posts: 1,080
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vishal540 wrote:

Hi bgD300,

I am uploading an image of a spider in original JPEG file without crop.. Let me tell you that the image uploaded is the closest my lens let me do in manual mode... Image was taken at ISO 100, Aperture 3.8, shutter speed 200sec. and using external flash..........I just wanna know how other people fill the entire frame.. Do I have to use extension tube, bellows etc..???

Thanks...

You were too far away from the spider. To get 1:1 size of the subject with the 60/2.8 G, you need to be as close as ca 5 cm from the subject, measuring from the lens edge. If the subject is still too small you can use extension tubes but this is not very practical with this lens. For shooting insects, spiders etc., a longer macro lens (at least 100 mm) is greatly preferred.

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bgD300 wrote:

It's hard to tell without knowing the size of the spider. One way to see how close you can get is to set the lens to minimum focus distance in manual mode and then move in and out over a newspaper. You will be able to tell how close you can get when you see the type come in to focus.

Another thing to do is to continually work on technique until you get the image really, really sharp. This will then allow you to crop your image to create an apparent increase in magnification.



A bee at less than 1:1

The same Bee butt from the picture above. Inverted.

This was taken with the 105mm but, my 60mm is equally sharp.

I always use at least a monopod when shooting macros to minimize camera movement. I sometimes need to use a clamp to minimize subject movement.

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I see you are continually work on technique until you get the image really, really sharp.  Nice photos and technique.  Thanks for posting.

John

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vishal540 OP Junior Member • Posts: 34
Re: Macro question....

bgD300,

I know that my lens does not need any kind of extension tubes or closeup filter but after reading your post I felt I am really doing something wrong.. I will now first try to get sharp images and then will get back to you if nothing works out..

Thanks a lot for your advice..

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bgD300 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,552
Re: Macro question....

Does the G mount lens have a range limit?  I have the f2.8D and it has a limit switch for the AF so that it doesn't hunt the full range when it isn't necessary.  It can be seen here on the left side of the lens in the center.

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T Evergreen Forum Member • Posts: 66
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For starters, set the lens and camera on manual focus.  Then turn the focus ring on the lens to the closest focus point the lens will allow.  Turn on the live view mode of the camera.  Put a coin or other small object on the table, and then place the front of the lens about 3 inches/75mm from the coin.  Then move the camera slowly toward and then away from the coin until the coin is in focus.  You should have 1:1 reproduction at that point.

The depth of field is very shallow when focusing this close.  Also, the camera's built-in flash will be no use because you are so close to the object being photographed.

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vishal540 wrote:

I am uploading an image of a spider in original JPEG file without crop.. Let me tell you that the image uploaded is the closest my lens let me do in manual mode... Image was taken at ISO 100, Aperture 3.8, shutter speed 200sec. and using external flash..........I just wanna know how other people fill the entire frame.. Do I have to use extension tube, bellows etc..???

The max 1:1 magnification means 24mm along the long side of the frame on a DX camera. I don't know how big this spider is, but images of enlarged insects are often made at 3:1 or more. Canon has a dedicated lens MP-E 65mm for this. Your lens can be used if you reverse it on top of macro bellows or a couple of sets of extension tubes. Wide-angle lenses (including kit lenses for the start) produce such magnification reversed without additional extension or with a shorter one. But the technique is a bit involved; DoF is thin, light is scarce, so you need to work either on tripod or with flash; everything is manual including aperture; you need some specific gear. But all you need may be googled up on this forum.

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