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Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
4 months ago
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From an email I just got from Capture One:
"Dear Beta Customer.--
www.chris-sorensen.com
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to chris24net,
4 months ago
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I am working on some images I processed in LR and C1 is a pleasure compared to the warren of options and processing eccentricities of LR.
Still looking for the Fill Light command but otherwise it's just a lovely piece of software engineering.
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to PeterFXCassidy,
4 months ago
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Good news. I have the trial version loaded and testing it with my old files. Ready to click "buy".
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to chris24net,
4 months ago
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Although I don't currently own an Xtrans sensor camera and I am not a current Capture One user, I will be purchasing C1 ver 7.0.2 in support of Phase One and their efforts to support the Fujifilm community when others could not be bothered. It will be nice to have a single raw platform to convert my NEF and X100 RAF files.
Hopefully one of these days I will have the money set aside to buy an X-E1, 18-55, 55-200, until then I will continue to appreciate my X100 and D2x.
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Conrad --------------------------------------------------- Show Low, Arizona
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to Mr Gadget,
4 months ago
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Mr Gadget wrote:
Although I don't currently own an Xtrans sensor camera and I am not a current Capture One user, I will be purchasing C1 ver 7.0.2 in support of Phase One and their efforts to support the Fujifilm community when others could not be bothered. It will be nice to have a single raw platform to convert my NEF and X100 RAF files.
Hopefully one of these days I will have the money set aside to buy an X-E1, 18-55, 55-200, until then I will continue to appreciate my X100 and D2x.
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Conrad --------------------------------------------------- Show Low, Arizona
Thats awesome. Thanks for contributing to the cause even without an XTrans.
Personally, I am coming from Aperture and simply await the release of C1 to click the buy button. I have been Beta testing and I really like it.
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A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. - Sir Winston Churchill
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to TThorne,
4 months ago
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Personally, I am coming from Aperture and simply await the release of C1 to click the buy button. I have been Beta testing and I really like it.
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A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. - Sir Winston Churchill
I have been using Capture One since version 3.7 in I believe 2005??went astray and used Lightroom in between, then loaded a version of C1 6 Professional and was just blown away by the colour controls (which the standard version doesn't have...).
Very pleased to see that they now support (If I read this correctly??) Fuji X-Trans ...
Deed
Auckland, New Zealand
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to chris24net,
4 months ago
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As a long term CP1 (Using V7.0.1 currently) and looking at purchasing the X100s with X-Trans this is fantastic news....
Another tick in the box for the X100s...
Well done Phase One...
Trevor Kloeden
Aussie retired in the Philippines
https://trevorkloeden.wordpress.com
http://trevor.kloeden.com/
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to chooflaki,
4 months ago
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chooflaki wrote:
Good news. I have the trial version loaded and testing it with my old files. Ready to click "buy".
... and ready to "update" !
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Re: X-Pro1 RAW Comparison – Lightroom vs Capture One
In reply to chris24net,
4 months ago
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to chris24net,
4 months ago
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I have been using the Capture One 7.0.1 and Lightroom 4 since some months, for the files of D800E as well as some other models . Both developers are fine but there are slight differences as far as the IQ parameters are concerned:
- The default sharpness of C1 is higher than that of LR. One can think that through the sharpness slider LR can be brought to the same sharpness which is not %100 the same. C1 has higher microcontrast (acutance, like some Zeiss lenses exhibiting crisp edges) but also a little higher resolution at pixel level. Consequently LR introduces comperatively more artifacts at higher sharpness levels than C1. For the sensors with no low-pass filters I believe C1 would deliver more satisfactory results by revealing the crispness of the files.
- At default level, the colors of the warmer side of the spectrum (yellow, orange and red) are rendered as being slightly more pastel by C1 compared to LR4, surely no problem to compensate for it. BTW, I tend to believe the skin tones could be easier to achieve with C1, as the "hue" control seems to be more simple (but this is a personal taste...)
- LR is stellar in recovering desperate shots; up to 5-stops down (with D800E) under exposed frames can be developed to perfectly usable ones whereas with C1 4.5- stops seems to be the lower limit. However, while the output of LR was exhibiting -objectionable for some- larger sharp-edged-grain/noise, the same with C1 can be regarded as "creamy". If you are using C1 then in such situations you may not need any noise-reduction software.
On the "control" side I believe C1 is unique; once you mastered it you begin to realize why it's the favorite developer for many professional MF users. Now looking forward to test these with the 7.0.2.
For the X-Trans sensor users I suggest to give a try to the new version of C1 while comparing it to their favorite developer. I hope my X100S would be delivered soon so I could run a hi-ISO test to see how it would stand against a reference-class sensor like the one on the D800E.
Regards,
Bob
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BobYIL
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to BobYIL,
4 months ago
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BobYIL wrote:
I have been using the Capture One 7.0.1 and Lightroom 4 since some months, for the files of D800E as well as some other models . Both developers are fine but there are slight differences as far as the IQ parameters are concerned:
- The default sharpness of C1 is higher than that of LR. One can think that through the sharpness slider LR can be brought to the same sharpness which is not %100 the same. C1 has higher microcontrast (acutance, like some Zeiss lenses exhibiting crisp edges) but also a little higher resolution at pixel level. Consequently LR introduces comperatively more artifacts at higher sharpness levels than C1. For the sensors with no low-pass filters I believe C1 would deliver more satisfactory results by revealing the crispness of the files.
- At default level, the colors of the warmer side of the spectrum (yellow, orange and red) are rendered as being slightly more pastel by C1 compared to LR4, surely no problem to compensate for it. BTW, I tend to believe the skin tones could be easier to achieve with C1, as the "hue" control seems to be more simple (but this is a personal taste...)
- LR is stellar in recovering desperate shots; up to 5-stops down (with D800E) under exposed frames can be developed to perfectly usable ones whereas with C1 4.5- stops seems to be the lower limit. However, while the output of LR was exhibiting -objectionable for some- larger sharp-edged-grain/noise, the same with C1 can be regarded as "creamy". If you are using C1 then in such situations you may not need any noise-reduction software.
On the "control" side I believe C1 is unique; once you mastered it you begin to realize why it's the favorite developer for many professional MF users. Now looking forward to test these with the 7.0.2.
For the X-Trans sensor users I suggest to give a try to the new version of C1 while comparing it to their favorite developer. I hope my X100S would be delivered soon so I could run a hi-ISO test to see how it would stand against a reference-class sensor like the one on the D800E.
Regards,
Bob
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BobYIL
I would indeed be interested in our findings!! Have used C1 from versions 3.7-4 then used LR up to version 3 then back to C1 when they released theri version 6 ... neverlooked back, although there were some things I actually quite liked in LR, e.g. the ALT-unshaprmask feature and the local adjustments with smart masking ...
Cheers
Deed
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to chris24net,
4 months ago
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I have been using the beta for a couple of weeks and it is without question better than current iterations of LR and PS. There is a 60 day demo so you have no excuse not to give it a try and see for yourself.
Jeff
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to Jsimmons,
4 months ago
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Some issues with CaptureOne:
These are long standing issues, not related to the beta. I have not tried it, so I do not know if CaptureOne edits on raw files can be "seen" in either Lightroom or Photoshop — in raw file. Obviously you can save as a tiff, but that is somewhat defeating the purpose of a raw editor.
This is a lot of money to spend on an app that, for me, would simply be doing the raw conversion, and a one way street at that.
Now that I think about it, in fairness to CaptureOne, many of the plugins I use act on tiff files — but, they are in the Lightroom or Photoshop environment, and can be compared XY with the raw file. If you don't like the plugin file, delete it and start over with the raw file, from within the same program.
To be meaningful for me, CaptureOne has to be more open with the digital photography community...
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LR user hoping to have X100S soon
In reply to chris24net,
4 months ago
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I am happy to see the encouraging news regarding C1. I do not want to start my 60 trial until I get my X100S. I use the LR brushes with auto masking quite a bit. Does C1 have that feature and the ability to save brushes. For example I have one brunch with reduced clarity to smooth skin, one brush to brighten eyes, etc.
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Re: LR user hoping to have X100S soon
In reply to Mark Weston,
4 months ago
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>I use the LR brushes with auto masking quite a bit.
I use for the X-Pro1 C1 as a pre-processor and still do these things in LR.
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Editor of Digital Outback Photo
http://www.outbackphoto.net/
Lightroom: http://www.outbackphoto.net/lightroom/
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to designdog,
4 months ago
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designdog wrote:
Some issues with CaptureOne:
These are long standing issues, not related to the beta. I have not tried it, so I do not know if CaptureOne edits on raw files can be "seen" in either Lightroom or Photoshop — in raw file. Obviously you can save as a tiff, but that is somewhat defeating the purpose of a raw editor.
This is a lot of money to spend on an app that, for me, would simply be doing the raw conversion, and a one way street at that.
Now that I think about it, in fairness to CaptureOne, many of the plugins I use act on tiff files — but, they are in the Lightroom or Photoshop environment, and can be compared XY with the raw file. If you don't like the plugin file, delete it and start over with the raw file, from within the same program.
To be meaningful for me, CaptureOne has to be more open with the digital photography community...
If the Capture One conversions of the RAF files are superior then it may just be worth the time and effort not to mention expense to export them to TIFF or DNG (if possible) then back into your favorite Adobe products. If I am not mistaken Capture One allows a demo period so each of us will be able to determine whether or not it meets our needs and is cost-effective.
After using LR on the "X" files I was less than impressed and have been a jpeg shooter with those cams. Hopefully that will change since I have been a RAW shooter for years.
Bob
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Re: LR user hoping to have X100S soon
In reply to Uwe Steinmueller,
4 months ago
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Uwe Steinmueller wrote:
>I use the LR brushes with auto masking quite a bit.
I use for the X-Pro1 C1 as a pre-processor and still do these things in LR.
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Editor of Digital Outback Photo
http://www.outbackphoto.net/
Lightroom: http://www.outbackphoto.net/lightroom/
Thank you, I am hoping for a one stop solution because I prefer a simple processing approach. Today, I shoot 100% raw and only use LR for editing. I guess I am looking for full X-Trans support in LR or for C1 to have the same tools. Looks like I may not find what I am looking for.
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Re: LR user hoping to have X100S soon
In reply to Uwe Steinmueller,
4 months ago
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Uwe Steinmueller wrote:
>I use the LR brushes with auto masking quite a bit.
I use for the X-Pro1 C1 as a pre-processor and still do these things in LR.
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Editor of Digital Outback Photo
http://www.outbackphoto.net/
Lightroom: http://www.outbackphoto.net/lightroom/
Uwe,
Can you comment on what file format you output from C1 to bring back to LR? I'm presuming it is TIFF?
Thanks,
Framus
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to Bobtheamateur,
4 months ago
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I'm thinking the same about C1 and using it with Aperture and Nik plug-ins. Guess it would work the same way, though it's not ideal.
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Re: Capture One 7.02 being released January 14
In reply to chris24net,
4 months ago
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Does anyone know what the cost will be in UK ?