HS50 vs X-S1

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PAUL TILL
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HS50 vs X-S1
Jan 10, 2013

This might be interesting to some of you.

I wonder if they really are dropping the the X-S1 in favour of a more mainstream bridge camera like the other manufacturers?

It appears that the HS50 is almost the same size as the X-S1. I do like the look of the lens, the bubble shape zoom on the X-S1 has always irritated me, reminds me of those old Canon lenses.

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Any price do we know regarding the HS50 ? the X20 according to wex is £599 probably subject to change.

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Any price do we know regarding the HS50 ? the X20 according to wex is £599 probably subject to change.

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Any price do we know regarding the HS50 ? the X20 according to wex is £599 probably subject to change.

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LOL, Paul i have no use for the HS50 although i suspect it will be a good camera, i have recently gone FF so not for me, however i always kicked myself when i sold the X10 felt it was a great camera with or without the orbs.

The X20 would be a great little carry around camera, saves me getting a pain in the neck from my DSLR and heavy lens. You know i had the X-S1, well only for about a week, just did not think the IQ was great, saying that others had better results guess i had a lemon.

I have always been a fan of fuji, since the S100Fs days, i think for the money they do a good job.

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I think the successor of X-S1 will be an X-S2. And like all the new X-Series the X-S2 will have an X-Trans CMOS.sensor.

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That`s one big camera for a pinhead sensor !! (HS50) , even the HS20 was bigger than it ought to be .

the barrel shaped zoom on the XS1 reminded me of the crappo sigma film camera superzooms like the 28-300 compact Hypermacro ..

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I could live with a bulky camera but I could not live with a heavy one

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The HS50 is bigger than a D7000 !!!

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I could live with a bulky camera but I could not live with a heavy one

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I like big and heavy, the HS50 is looking better and better, if only it had the EVF from the X-S1, it would then be usable.

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Here's one for you HS30 owners thinking of upgrading. Most HS30 users on the FTF have said at some point that the X-S1 is too big.

How do you feel now?

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I spoke to Fuji UK this afternoon and they said there is no X-S2 planned as of yet and if there was they wouldn't know until the Autumn when the next release of cameras is announced.

For anyone in the UK interested in getting there hands on an HS50, it will be on show at the Focus on Imaging exhibition at the NEC in March.

http://www.focus-on-imaging.co.uk/

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I spoke with a Fuji rep. at the Ottawa camera show and he doubts there will ever be a xs-2! Kind of implied that sales were not so great and that it was too much of a niche market to warrant an update.

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I spoke with a Fuji rep. at the Ottawa camera show and he doubts there will ever be a xs-2! Kind of implied that sales were not so great and that it was too much of a niche market to warrant an update.

Tim

Looking at the evolution of the HS30 > HS50, I think the X-S1 will die young and childless.

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Looking at dpreviews article make it even more confusing.

Is the HS35 the HS30 replacement?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/07/Fujifilm-finepix-hs50-exr-hs35

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PAUL TILL wrote:

This might be interesting to some of you.

I wonder if they really are dropping the the X-S1 in favour of a more mainstream bridge camera like the other manufacturers?

It appears that the HS50 is almost the same size as the X-S1. I do like the look of the lens, the bubble shape zoom on the X-S1 has always irritated me, reminds me of those old Canon lenses.

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What a gorgeous hs50 camera. Size is perfect, weight is perfect and no stupid-looking barrel just like that on the x-s1. I can live with the smaller EVF as long as I have longer and faster and sharper lens with no droopage.

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TAGRIFFIN wrote:

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I spoke with a Fuji rep. at the Ottawa camera show and he doubts there will ever be a xs-2! Kind of implied that sales were not so great and that it was too much of a niche market to warrant an update.

Tim

I got a very similar response from Fuji NZ as well, hence my other thread asking if the HS50 is going to be the XS-1 replacement.

I've never thought for an instant that they would do an XS-2, price alone makes it prohibitive when compared to good entry level DSLR's with a half decent kit lens, not to mention its poor IQ compared to an entry level DSLR. The XS-1 could have been a great camera if they had stepped it up to 4/3, but with all its faults it was destined to be a failure. Fuji outlets here struggle to sell any at all, they are just too expensive and underwhelming for the money you pay.

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TAGRIFFIN wrote:

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I spoke with a Fuji rep. at the Ottawa camera show and he doubts there will ever be a xs-2! Kind of implied that sales were not so great and that it was too much of a niche market to warrant an update.

Tim

I got a very similar response from Fuji NZ as well, hence my other thread asking if the HS50 is going to be the XS-1 replacement.

I've never thought for an instant that they would do an XS-2, price alone makes it prohibitive when compared to good entry level DSLR's with a half decent kit lens, not to mention its poor IQ compared to an entry level DSLR. The XS-1 could have been a great camera if they had stepped it up to 4/3, but with all its faults it was destined to be a failure. Fuji outlets here struggle to sell any at all, they are just too expensive and underwhelming for the money you pay.

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I still can't agree, if you want a one lens system you can't touch the X-S1 with a DSLR. If you take one of the better vacation lenses such as Tamrons relatively new: Tamron 18-270mm F/3.5-6.3 Di II VC PZD and look at its recent review you can see what I mean.

http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/tamron-18-270mm-3p5-6p3-vc-pzd

To sum it up:

Conclusion - Pros
  • Very useful 15x zoom range
  • Good image quality at wideangle
  • Quiet autofocus
  • Reasonably effective image stabilization
  • Compact and lightweight
Conclusion - Cons
  • Rather soft at telephoto, especially wide open
  • Strong distortion across most of the range
  • Chromatic aberration at each end of the zoom (most pronounced at telephoto)
  • Slower autofocus than its peers
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PAUL TILL wrote:

This might be interesting to some of you.

I wonder if they really are dropping the the X-S1 in favour of a more mainstream bridge camera like the other manufacturers?

It appears that the HS50 is almost the same size as the X-S1. I do like the look of the lens, the bubble shape zoom on the X-S1 has always irritated me, reminds me of those old Canon lenses.

Paul.

And that's why I stated this in the thread I started a day or so ago.

  • I've just been comparing the HS50 and the XS-1. Apart from staying with the 1/2 inch sensor it looks like an all new model. In size its fractionally smaller than the XS-1, and slightly lighter weight wise.

It ain't no toy camera no more (at least size wise)

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In reply to PAUL TILL, Jan 10, 2013

its too much stuck in the middle, there are so many options in its price range, larger sensor or even less $ w/ much larger zooms.  that the only way to make it 'marketable' would be to make it a larger version of the fz200....maybe 24-500mm (may have to cut focal length to get a constant 2.8???) at a constant 2.8, close enough to the fz in focal but would have the operation,evf and the slightly larger sensor, but lens speed comes at such a premium $ with the larger sensor cameras and could could stand out against kits (dslr or m4/3).

just my 1/2cent worth.

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TAGRIFFIN wrote:

I spoke with a Fuji rep. at the Ottawa camera show and he doubts there will ever be a xs-2! Kind of implied that sales were not so great and that it was too much of a niche market to warrant an update.

It will probably die intestate, like the S100fs, with PAUL still showing us random park pics to compare in 5 years time.

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