x100s - Fuji gives Sony sensor the flick

This is exactly what I have been patiently waiting in the wings for. I have resisted the initial X100 knowing Fuji would eventually get their act together. Way too may little quirks, it was an immature device in my op.

The Pro1 and E1 are nice devices but same again with the Pro1 - in my opinion an immature device whereas the E1 is a tighter package - not falling short trying to deliver what it is designed to do. Apologies about the critical words but these are my observations.

Second generation Pro1 and E1 is going to be where it's at for those that want to pop glass. They will own the market unless something magical comes out from someone else. A two year cycle seems logical unless the wind of sales/demand blows harder than Fuji expects.

The x-Trans sensor is the strength, glad they got rid of Sony from the mix with this one. x-Trans is like a breath of unexpected fresh air, very little trade off's to achieve significant major improvement in core image quality streets beyond any other similar mp count traditional Bayer pattern.

The other strength is Fujinon glass. As more people directly compare the quality of Fujinon glass to other similar costing lenses, this will become majorly apparent although for me I am content with my hassie (camera and glass manufactured by Fuji) I pop a different class of glass

For me personally the long wait is over. The concept is great and now by the sounds of the specs the device will match the promise. I'm going to have some fun with this little beauty.

How many of you have been sitting on the fence like me waiting for Fuji to deliver what I feel the X100 should have been in the beginning? or isn't anyone as stupid as me?

Clive

And just who do you think makes the X Trans sensor?  Do you know that there is compelling evidence that indicates it is a Sony IMX071 sensor?  Tear downs of the X Pro 1 show it to be a pin for pin duplicate.

Nope.  I have been enjoying my X100 for the past 2 years and have thousands of images and memories recorded by this wonderful camera.

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"compelling evidence" that something "indicates" something are not facts.

Pin for pin duplicate is.

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No it's not, far from it.

Well, that's compelling evidence that you have there.

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Nothing wrong with the X100 , user issues more likely.

I underatand what you are saying. "Compelliing evidence" may be enough to satisfy yourself that something is fact, but for me it is not.

Fujifilm sold off their fabrication plant many years ago. (See Fujifilm Press release archives for proof).   Who do you think/know they are buying from then?

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Ah, I believe I am following your train of thought now. I am correct to assume you don't know the answer to your own question therefore the easiest route for you is to conclude Sony is the sensor component suppler in light of the same/similar pin placement situation?

So you do not know who makes Fujifilm's X Trans sensor?

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I would call it "brave" or "patient" rather than "stupid".  You have all my respect for resisting the X100 for so long, I was not that strong

Check any board and you'll see these posts flood in every release cycle.

Let's see:

Trashing cameras you've never touched?

-check!

Pinning all your hopes on a spec sheet?

-check!

Poor ability to reason critically?

-check!

Soul crushing defeat when "product x" fails to conform to their wishes and then instantly rebounding on the next rumor?

-wait for it....

You have avoided answering my queston. I am still waiting for you to answer.

No, YOU have avoided MY question. There was NO open question when this post below was composed. If you will review you will see this. The ONLY question mark appears in MY sentence.

Now, are you going to continue to avoid this question?

Fujifilm sold off their fabrication plant many years ago. (See Fujifilm Press release archives for proof). Who do you think/know they are buying from then?

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I'm pretty certain this is the Sony 16mp sensor - how else would Fuji be offerring PDAF on sensor just after Sony has just released a new version of its 16mp sensor with PDAF on sensor?

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Ah, I believe I am following your train of thought now. I am correct to assume you don't know the answer to your own question therefore the easiest route for you is to conclude Sony is the sensor component supplier in light of the same/similar pin placement situation?

Most people believe that Sony makes the X Trans sensor.  There are all kinds of pointers to this if you take 5 mins and use Google.

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Yep, that's the post where you ignored my question.  You are ignored in return.

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Why don't we all wander over to an automotive forum and simply join in the irrational centuries old * debate of whose products are better - Ford or GM? Same thing - a misplaced product loyalty or at least, it's perceived superiority/dominance.

Outside of Canon, Sony, & Panasonic there are only a handful of small fab plants - most incapable of developing top of the line sensor products alone. Many subcontract for the big guys for that reason.

Quite why 'giving Sony the flick' is a progressive step forward - even if true - I can't fathom. If Fuji were - in truth - to give Sony the finger (see comments re. X-Trans origins) you'd rather they go out on an (unsupported) technology path and possibly fail?

To justify what exactly? Standing up to Sony - some purist ethos perhaps .....?

Pointless post topic ... but if Sony did something reallynasty to you as a child to deserve the venom, I sympathise ....

* I know it's not centuries of Ford v GM - just feels like it.