NX300 Official - See the News!

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Tilting Screens

Although on a tripod tilting screens are problematical sometimes and not good in portrait mode for ME ... i much prefer them and I do think that as Eric says that position near your waist is SUCH a good position ..... for me  ... a fixed screen alone is awful ... but I think if the AMOLED is as good as I think it might be then overall i may well prefer the articulating Amoled to the LCD + EVF just because I seem yself using that lower waist level position a lot potentially ... i'm just not sure

BUT it is odd to me that things that make a  BIG difference are often weighed much the same as stuff you'd hardly use ... so in pentax the IBIS I consider for me a HUGE plus. Likewise the EX! screen let alone this new one make  such a big diference as they are so bvibrant compared to an LCD screen

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In reply to targut, Jan 8, 2013

Thank you for your excellent counsel, Mr. teacher.

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Retail price for the 45mm 3D lens $500 - March

http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/samsung-nx300-smart-camera-unveiled-ahead-of-ces/
NX300 $750 with an 20-50mm kit lens - March
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I have been thinking of getting a NX. Like the lens line up but looks like the NX200 left much to be desired in the sensor department. Any idea if the NX300 has a much different sensor?

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sj2 wrote:

I have been thinking of getting a NX. Like the lens line up but looks like the NX200 left much to be desired in the sensor department. Any idea if the NX300 has a much different sensor?

What  makes you think so? I find that the sensor in the nx 1000 is excellent up to ISO 1600.  I'm not measuring test patterns. I just know what I see.

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Let us see how 3D works ... small, small eye distance, two shutter curtains ... buuuut stills and 1080/60fps video. I hope it isn't the same flop like Panasonic.

3D-Image  4MP only!?

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I think Samsung (or SONY) have MORE innovative ideas than Canon/Nikon together.

They have them too but do not show them yet. Money-making seems more important. Understandable.

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I think Samsung (or SONY) have MORE innovative ideas than Canon/Nikon together.

They have them too but do not show them yet. Money-making seems more important. Understandable.

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I think Samsung (or SONY) have MORE innovative ideas than Canon/Nikon together.

They have them too but do not show them yet. Money-making seems more important. Understandable.

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I think Samsung (or SONY) have MORE innovative ideas than Canon/Nikon together.

They have them too but do not show them yet. Money-making seems more important. Understandable.

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Re: I think it 's pretty good.
In reply to Joe Melillo, Jan 9, 2013

I do not claim any first hand experience with the NX series but have been reading reviews and looking at sample images. While noise can be artistically used and could be acceptable to a certain level, as a buyer, I have other choices in MILC/EVIL and some have clearly better sensors than NX. So the question is why settle for a lesser sensor? What does Samsung offer that is so head and shoulders above the competition that I should overlook the sensor? Don't get me wrong, I do like NX lens series. Anyway, my curiosity is about the NX300 sensor.

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Yes, NX300 has focus peaking on board :-)

Samsung NX300 Hands-on by techradar @ CES

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Really excited to see this! It looks great, and I like the sound of 'focus peaking'. Like to hear more about that...

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Joe Melillo wrote:

sj2 wrote:

I have been thinking of getting a NX. Like the lens line up but looks like the NX200 left much to be desired in the sensor department. Any idea if the NX300 has a much different sensor?

What makes you think so? I find that the sensor in the nx 1000 is excellent up to ISO 1600. I'm not measuring test patterns. I just know what I see.

The nx1000 sensor is not really able to compete with other modern APS-C sensors when it comes to DR (especially highlights, see also the nx200 review http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/samsungnx200/11 ).

Also ISO 1600+ IQ is a bit behind other sensors, however the results up to ISO 400 are great.

No big issue. Some reviewers mentioned that it makes sense to expose a little bit to the left to prevent blown highlights, which can happen quite easily on the NX200 (I assume it's the same on the NX1000).

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Re: I think it 's pretty good.
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Joe Melillo wrote:

sj2 wrote:

I have been thinking of getting a NX. Like the lens line up but looks like the NX200 left much to be desired in the sensor department. Any idea if the NX300 has a much different sensor?

What makes you think so? I find that the sensor in the nx 1000 is excellent up to ISO 1600. I'm not measuring test patterns. I just know what I see.

The nx1000 sensor is not really able to compete with other modern APS-C sensors when it comes to DR (especially highlights, see also the nx200 review http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/samsungnx200/11 ).

Also ISO 1600+ IQ is a bit behind other sensors, however the results up to ISO 400 are great.

No big issue. Some reviewers mentioned that it makes sense to expose a little bit to the left to prevent blown highlights, which can happen quite easily on the NX200 (I assume it's the same on the NX1000).

It's not just a sensor issue with Samsung IMO, it's also the heavy handed way they handle N/R that has always put me off. Hopefully it wil lbe less obtrusive or at least have some way of turning it off/down.

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It's not just a sensor issue with Samsung IMO, it's also the heavy handed way they handle N/R that has always put me off. Hopefully it wil lbe less obtrusive or at least have some way of turning it off/down.

Use RAW above ISO400, problem solved.

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The nx1000 sensor is not really able to compete with other modern APS-C sensors when it comes to DR (especially highlights, see also the nx200 review http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/samsungnx200/11 ).

A JPEG DR comparison is completely useless.

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Robert N wrote:

The nx1000 sensor is not really able to compete with other modern APS-C sensors when it comes to DR (especially highlights, see also the nx200 review http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/samsungnx200/11 ).

A JPEG DR comparison is completely useless.

I no longer have time to play with RAW. I need the in-camera JPEG engine to do a good job with NR. So I guess I will have to wait and see what the NX300 engine does.

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sj2 wrote:

Robert N wrote:

The nx1000 sensor is not really able to compete with other modern APS-C sensors when it comes to DR (especially highlights, see also the nx200 review http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/samsungnx200/11 ).

A JPEG DR comparison is completely useless.

I no longer have time to play with RAW. I need the in-camera JPEG engine to do a good job with NR. So I guess I will have to wait and see what the NX300 engine does.

Well said. This notion that everyone has the time to shoot and process RAW is nonsense when we are dealing with a small/pocketable camera. There is no excuse for a company with Samsungs resources and expertise to use such heavy handed NR.

Hopefull this  new camera will correct this.

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Well said. This notion that everyone has the time to shoot and process RAW is nonsense when we are dealing with a small/pocketable camera. There is no excuse for a company with Samsungs resources and expertise to use such heavy handed NR.

Hopefull this new camera will correct this.

I don't know what the size of the camera has to do with RAW. Post processing can be time consuming, but a simple RAW conversion is very fast. Shouldn't be a problem since you have time enough to post on a photography forum.

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Robert N wrote:

Well said. This notion that everyone has the time to shoot and process RAW is nonsense when we are dealing with a small/pocketable camera. There is no excuse for a company with Samsungs resources and expertise to use such heavy handed NR.

Hopefull this new camera will correct this.

I don't know what the size of the camera has to do with RAW. Post processing can be time consuming, but a simple RAW conversion is very fast. Shouldn't be a problem since you have time enough to post on a photography forum.

Using RAW is probably not very compatible with the touted auto-copy-to-smartphone feature, or the social networking features.

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