[need sugg] Second DSLR+Lens @ 2200$ - Canon 7D--Nikon D7000--Nikon D300s

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Madhav
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[need sugg] Second DSLR+Lens @ 2200$ - Canon 7D--Nikon D7000--Nikon D300s
Dec 31, 2012

Hello All,

I am amateur photographer for the last five years.I have had Canon 500D + 18-55 and i love the camera.I have also tried LowLight and Timelapse photography with Nikon D300 + 50mm (i loaned this camera from a friend) and i love Nikon for its low light captures.

I recently won an Amazon gift card (2000$) in a photography contest and I looking forward to get a Mid level-pro camera that suits my interests.

What i looking for - Nature , Landscape , Low Light Slow Shutter (i love this) , TimeLapse

I am stuck with --- Canon 7D (1100$) -- Nikon D7000 (890$) ----- Nikon D300s (1600$)

Do suggest some good lens so that i can have a combo deal.

I have read all the pros and cons of all the cameras stated ,but please your personal experiences.

Please don't get me wrong if this kind of question is already answered,the cost of the cameras mentioned above being recent rebates.

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Madhav

Canon EOS 500D (EOS Rebel T1i / EOS Kiss X3) Canon EOS 7D Nikon D300 Nikon D300S Nikon D7000
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Re: [need sugg] Second DSLR+Lens @ 2200$ - Canon 7D--Nikon D7000--Nikon D300s
In reply to Madhav, Dec 31, 2012

Madhav wrote:

I am amateur photographer for the last five years.I have had Canon 500D + 18-55 and i love the camera.I have also tried LowLight and Timelapse photography with Nikon D300 + 50mm (i loaned this camera from a friend) and i love Nikon for its low light captures.

This seems a bit strange to me - at least according to DxOmark, there's no significant difference between the low-light abilities of the 500D and the D300. Seems to me more likely that the difference you're seeing is in the lens - 50mm f/1.8 is going to seem a more impressive in low light than f/3.5, and much more impressive than f/5.6. Even more so if the lens you borrowed was an f/1.4.

I recently won an Amazon gift card (2000$) in a photography contest and I looking forward to get a Mid level-pro camera that suits my interests.

What i looking for - Nature , Landscape , Low Light Slow Shutter (i love this) , TimeLapse

If low light is your primary interest, you should be looking full frame. A modern Canon crop camera will only be a bit better than your 500D (maybe 1/3 to 1/2 a stop); the D300s will be similar. The D7000 would be better than both, but still nowhere near as good as a full frame camera.

I am stuck with --- Canon 7D (1100$) -- Nikon D7000 (890$) ----- Nikon D300s (1600$)

Do suggest some good lens so that i can have a combo deal.

IMO, you need to be thinking lenses first and body second.

I have read all the pros and cons of all the cameras stated ,but please your personal experiences.

What are you finding limiting about your current body? (note this is a different question from what are you finding limiting about your current lens - adding the 17-55 f/2.8 and a couple of fast primes would make a world of difference to the low light ability of your 500D).

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In reply to Madhav, Dec 31, 2012

Nikon is better at low light but the difference is 1 stop.

Based on your budget I would try to get D5100 with Nikkor 17-55 mm f/2.8. You are accustomed with an entry level body and the lens is more important.

If you want to stay with Canon better buy a good lens and a lesser body (like Canon 60D).

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Re: [need sugg] Second DSLR+Lens @ 2200$ - Canon 7D--Nikon D7000--Nikon D300s
In reply to baloo_buc, Jan 1, 2013

The Nikon D7000 is at the sweet spot in price. Also there are more affordable wide angle prime lenses for it. That or the D5100 same quality lower price.

I would try and grab a D600 with kit lens for $2000.00 (if the deal is still going) and then sell the kit lens and get the Nikon 50mm/1.8G or perhaps the 35mm or 28mm.

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In reply to Madhav, Jan 1, 2013

Without a doubt in my mind and as others have suggested, get the Nikon D600 FX camera with the kit 24-85 VR lens that might still be on sale for $2000. Get it now before the deal ends. Basically it is a free lens and the sale is over about now. You'll be full frame and have one of the best cameras made by anyone.

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In reply to Madhav, Jan 2, 2013

You're looking at lenses more than a camera; your current Canon should do better than the Nikon D300 in low light given that it has a newer sensor. The next step up wold be a Canon 7D but in all truth lenses could make a much bigger difference.

For landscapes you could get the Canon 10-22 or the Samyang 14mm 2.8 if you don't mind manual focus (usually not a problem for landscapes with live view on your LCD).

If by nature you mean animals you could get a Canon 100-400 or the 400mm 5.6. The 70-300L covers a good range with great quality. If you don't need that reach any of the 70-200 are great.

For low light you could get a fast lens, but you need to decide on the focal length; IS would also help.

There are also cheap intervalometers for time lapse.

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photosen wrote:

You're looking at lenses more than a camera; your current Canon should do better than the Nikon D300 in low light given that it has a newer sensor. The next step up wold be a Canon 7D but in all truth lenses could make a much bigger difference.

Unfortunately Canon sensor is still worse (not too much) than Sony sensor used by Nikon:

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In reply to baloo_buc, Jan 2, 2013

baloo_buc wrote:

Unfortunately Canon sensor is still worse (not too much) than Sony sensor used by Nikon:

That all depends on whether you're comparing at 100% (Nikon wins) or at a fixed size (more difficult. Canon might win).

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decided on Nikon D600 + 24-85..but...dust issues bothering me
In reply to baloo_buc, Jan 3, 2013

As lot of pointed here and my inner guts telling me to go for FullFrame.

But the recent threads about D600 dust/oil sensor issues are bothering me.

First of all I am DIY kinda guy but Pros need your advice on this particular.

Cheers

Madhav

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Re: decided on Nikon D600 + 24-85..but...dust issues bothering me
In reply to Madhav, Jan 3, 2013

All new cameras have guys that are paranoid and exaggerate any small flaw (either real or imagined).

It may happen to get a lemon but usually 1/200 or 1/500 would be the chance with the current manufacturing processes. The QC could reduce to 1/10000. So it is better to buy from a shop that can exchange very easily the body.

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