Only D600 has the dust/oil issue or its regular about Nikon cameras?

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wint
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Only D600 has the dust/oil issue or its regular about Nikon cameras?
5 months ago

In our thread about the D600 oil/dust issue there is people saying it occurs with all their Nikon cametas, not only a D600 new issue for Nikonians.

What are your experience with others cameras?

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In reply to wint, 5 months ago

I own a d70, d90, d7000 and d600. D7000 had some oil but nothing like the d600. The lubricant issue on the d600 is in another league. I recall early production d7000's having similar issues. On some of them the mirror box motor from one vendor was found to have a over lubricant problem and that part was replaced. We may have a similar issue with the d600 and it may be combined with poor dirt QC at the new plant that is camera is assembled at. I dont trust people that say i have no issue because most dont know what to look for or test it correctly. I agree every sensor gets dust but I just cleaned at 1220pm in the afternoon and did a time lapse test at midnight and I can see oil gettind added again. I will say I think at some point it will run out but it is a joke to think everyone can do a wet clean every 1,000 shots or that they also want to shoot 3000-9000 shots to get most the oil off the parts. This is very poor quality control and I think nikon had to know this during the field testing and felt it was okay. How would you miss this. You are telling me that every test camera had no over lubrication show up and they had no idea? They dont pull samples during assembly and test them? It is not like this just shows up years later we are seeing dust/oil at 100 frames and day one for some.

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Nikonfan99 wrote:

. I dont trust people that say i have no issue because most dont know what to look for or test it correctly.

I have not seen a single picture with blue sky in it from anyone claiming no dust.

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Can I say that I was a self proclaimed nikon know it all because I thought I was all set until I hit 2,800 shutter counts. At that point I noticed spots in my shots at even f4.5. I would say anyone that thinks they are safe should wait a year or until over 10,000 frames before you start thinking you are immune from this issue. This is not a made up think. My gallery shows the fun oil issue. I think if the lubricant was consistant we would all have similar results but since some cameras are lubricated more or less that would explain the variances. Either way lets not say we should not have an issue. I should not have a clean sensor at 12pm and oil at midnight at the start of a time lapse test.

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My D600 is a two months old, has seven or eight spots, upper left, won't blow off.  I'm not hysterical, I can't see them in any of my pix so far, but I'll buy some stuff and clean it and life will go on.

Just to test the op's question, I pulled out my 6-year-old D200 that has been around the world changing lenses a lot, never been cleaned.  I saw four spots.  Hit it with the rocket blower and all but one are gone.

Interesting.

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This is so sad to buy a $2000 camera and go throught this.Does any know were the nikon D600 body is made?

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Randy Z wrote:

My D600 is a two months old, has seven or eight spots, upper left, won't blow off. I'm not hysterical, I can't see them in any of my pix so far, but I'll buy some stuff and clean it and life will go on.

Just to test the op's question, I pulled out my 6-year-old D200 that has been around the world changing lenses a lot, never been cleaned. I saw four spots. Hit it with the rocket blower and all but one are gone.

Interesting.

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Have you tried it at f16? I also had only some spots until shot the sky at f16. It's a lot of them, a mess!

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bosco1955 wrote:

This is so sad to buy a $2000 camera and go throught this.Does any know were the nikon D600 body is made?

Doesn't matter. They cannot deliver a $2000 like that.

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wint wrote:

Randy Z wrote:

My D600 is a two months old, has seven or eight spots, upper left, won't blow off. I'm not hysterical, I can't see them in any of my pix so far, but I'll buy some stuff and clean it and life will go on.

Just to test the op's question, I pulled out my 6-year-old D200 that has been around the world changing lenses a lot, never been cleaned. I saw four spots. Hit it with the rocket blower and all but one are gone.

Interesting.

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Have you tried it at f16? I also had only some spots until shot the sky at f16. It's a lot of them, a mess!

Just to clarify: In both cases I'm seeing spots at f16, not in normal shots.

The point is that yes, the D600 has a problem.  Anyone who has one knows about it, Nikon apparently hasn't looked.  It's a glitch, but not the end of the world.  Still a phenomenal camera for the price, especially now.

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Randy Z wrote:

wint wrote:

Randy Z wrote:

My D600 is a two months old, has seven or eight spots, upper left, won't blow off. I'm not hysterical, I can't see them in any of my pix so far, but I'll buy some stuff and clean it and life will go on.

Just to test the op's question, I pulled out my 6-year-old D200 that has been around the world changing lenses a lot, never been cleaned. I saw four spots. Hit it with the rocket blower and all but one are gone.

Interesting.

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Z-Man

Have you tried it at f16? I also had only some spots until shot the sky at f16. It's a lot of them, a mess!

Just to clarify: In both cases I'm seeing spots at f16, not in normal shots.

The point is that yes, the D600 has a problem. Anyone who has one knows about it, Nikon apparently hasn't looked. It's a glitch, but not the end of the world. Still a phenomenal camera for the price, especially now.

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I do agree it's a amazing camera and only because that I'm keeping it despite the issue. But I'm planning to work with my D600 and to have to clean frequently is very annoying.

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Wint, Would you take a look a the bottom fo your 600 and tell were its made?

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sorry my keybord is a little old.....

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bosco1955 wrote:

Wint, Would you take a look a the bottom fo your 600 and tell were its made?

Made in Thailand.

Is there  D600 made in another country?

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wint wrote:

bosco1955 wrote:

Wint, Would you take a look a the bottom fo your 600 and tell were its made?

Made in Thailand.

Is there D600 made in another country?

Not that I know of....Wint thanks for the reply.. Thailand  WOW!!

Maybe that why all the QC issue?

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D50, first year of use I had frequent dust spots, Rocket blaster cleans them off just fine. Last 3 years of use, I sometimes get a spot or two.

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In reply to bosco1955, 5 months ago

D2x only an occasional dust bunny. D700, clean as a whistle after 10K clicks. Lot's of outdoor lens changes, also.

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Some of you new guys are really clueless about where Nikon makes its lower end DSLRs.  Why is Thailand such a surprise.   Perhaps the problems with the QC stem from the fact that Nikon rushed the camera lines back into operation after some devastating floods in Thailand and the tsunami in Japan.   There can be any number of reasons but my bet is that these past weather events had some impact.   Hopefully, Nikon with get their "sierra" together and "iron" the problems out.

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bosco1955 wrote:

wint wrote:

bosco1955 wrote:

Wint, Would you take a look a the bottom fo your 600 and tell were its made?

Made in Thailand.

Is there D600 made in another country?

Not that I know of....Wint thanks for the reply.. Thailand WOW!!

Maybe that why all the QC issue?

Nikon has been making entry and mid level DSLR's in Thailand since the D70 series. It is a Nikon factory building cameras to Nikon QC levels. With the D600 it seems that the oil/dust issue is technical flaw that slipped through the QC standards for whatever reason.

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In reply to wint, 5 months ago

Had the oil issue with my first D7000 even after repeated wet cleans. Eventually gave up and sold it. After several months purchased another D7000 (which I very much like for it's excellent dynamic range). So far my new D7000 has been fine but if the problem shows up I will be very irritated. Nikon should have had this problem well under control by now.

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some of you people really need to get out more

do you really believe that it is just a nikon thing? canon has had and does have its issues with dust and oil on the sensor

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