Water Color effect, can someone show me what it is?

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Joel Stern
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Water Color effect, can someone show me what it is?
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I keep hearing it and not being as sophisticated as many of you I really would like to know what this is to my eyes.  Thank you

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I provided the link to the raw file in the previous link. You can download it, open in ACR and check the pine tree.

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Thanks, I don't use ARC

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If you are not using Lightroom or CS then no worry for you:)

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Joel Stern wrote:

I keep hearing it and not being as sophisticated as many of you I really would like to know what this is to my eyes. Thank you

What's with the "sophisticated" comment? Are you really asking for help or just being snarky?

There are many threads on the subject that include example images. Did you try a forum search?

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Randy, I wonder if the OP, like me has failed to see any of the so called bad examples as truly awful. I have looked at many images & some of my own(which were truly awful BTW) but I passed them (my images anyway) off as bad exposure choices, wind movement etc... There is no foliage at this time of year for me to test  where I live, save for some pine trees. The images I have with pine trees in the background do not seem offensive to me. But I must confess I have not intentionally tried to take a landscape with as much DOF as I can get nor am I likely to with the XE-1.

It is not my intention to dismiss what clearly is an issue to some, But I do not see that the OP was being snarky at all but perhaps wondering what all the fuss is about because he actually does not know.

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Here I show you Look at these two
In reply to Joel Stern, 5 months ago

This is the same shoot .  The one one the right is Photoshop CS6 ACR 73

The one on the left is Sylkpix Raw file converter.

I just opened the photo in silkpix , exported it in tif open in photoshop

Zoomed to 200%  , and a little bit of sharpening.

I hope you see it on these two the watercolor effect on the right one.



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Ok when you click on the photo then click again and choose

view gallery page

there you can zoom into full size

then its easy to see that beautiful watercolor effect

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vkphoto wrote:

If you are not using Lightroom or CS then no worry for you:)

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thx, yes, just got LR4

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Randy Benter wrote:

Joel Stern wrote:

I keep hearing it and not being as sophisticated as many of you I really would like to know what this is to my eyes. Thank you

What's with the "sophisticated" comment? Are you really asking for help or just being snarky?

There are many threads on the subject that include example images. Did you try a forum search?

I was and am not trolling, look at my history. I was using a word because it seems to be used over and over again and I have no clue as to what it means, sorry if it offended you, that was not the intent, and I do not know what snarky is but I can probably put that one together, so no need to explain.  I did a search and came up with little, that is why I asked, I looked at an example that was described as watercolor effect and it was hard for me to see and when blown up to what I would consider sizes that might never be used I just did not understand and thought, OK, what am I missing. Sorry if my post offended you

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WT Jones wrote:

Randy, I wonder if the OP, like me has failed to see any of the so called bad examples as truly awful. I have looked at many images & some of my own(which were truly awful BTW) but I passed them (my images anyway) off as bad exposure choices, wind movement etc... There is no foliage at this time of year for me to test where I live, save for some pine trees. The images I have with pine trees in the background do not seem offensive to me. But I must confess I have not intentionally tried to take a landscape with as much DOF as I can get nor am I likely to with the XE-1.

It is not my intention to dismiss what clearly is an issue to some, But I do not see that the OP was being snarky at all but perhaps wondering what all the fuss is about because he actually does not know.

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Thank you WT, and you pretty much hit the nail on the head for me and my experience. Thanks again

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Joel,  pls look at these samples.  I have been using this camera for a week and I love it.  Yes I can see this effect if I zoom into 200% but it don't bother me and I know there will be Raw converters dealing with it in the right way in the future .

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lorange wrote:

This is the same shoot . The one one the right is Photoshop CS6 ACR 73

The one on the left is Sylkpix Raw file converter.

I just opened the photo in silkpix , exported it in tif open in photoshop

Zoomed to 200% , and a little bit of sharpening.

I hope you see it on these two the watercolor effect on the right one.



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Thank you for posting, I will have to look with a larger monitor, on my laptop I cannot notice anything so I will later look on my desktop with large 20" monitor.

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Re: Here I show you Look at these two
In reply to Joel Stern, 5 months ago

You don't see it unless you choose View Gallery on the bottom left , then you zoom in there .

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lorange wrote:

Joel, pls look at these samples. I have been using this camera for a week and I love it. Yes I can see this effect if I zoom into 200% but it don't bother me and I know there will be Raw converters dealing with it in the right way in the future .

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lorange, I did and will look again on my bigger mac. What I have seen does not seem to bother me either. I have switched from Aperture to Lightroom so I can use the RAF files. I think you and I are in the same camp, if foliage proves to be a problem that will be disappointing but as you said, this is not the season, at least where I live to be able to evaluate that. I think I may not be a critical as many although I like a nice clean sharpened shot.

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lorange again Re: Here I show you Look at these two
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lorange wrote:

This is the same shoot . The one one the right is Photoshop CS6 ACR 73

The one on the left is Sylkpix Raw file converter.

I just opened the photo in silkpix , exported it in tif open in photoshop

Zoomed to 200% , and a little bit of sharpening.

I hope you see it on these two the watercolor effect on the right one.



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Nikon , Fuji

Yes, I hit gallery and enlarged, now on my other computer and what I see is that the steeple if that is what I can call it has a bit less detail, like bricks that may not show that rough edge. Other than that I do not see much which probably means for me this will be a non issue. I have been using the X-E1 with a trial lightroom and so far it works fine for my needs, thanks again

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Re: lorange again Re: Here I show you Look at these two
In reply to Joel Stern, 5 months ago

Ys you know you have to click twice when in the gallery to get full size ?

Its most obvious in the windows and the antenna.

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lorange wrote:

This is the same shoot . The one one the right is Photoshop CS6 ACR 73

The one on the left is Sylkpix Raw file converter.

I just opened the photo in silkpix , exported it in tif open in photoshop

Zoomed to 200% , and a little bit of sharpening.

I hope you see it on these two the watercolor effect on the right one.

Now, I'm starting to wonder as well. I thought I had seen some good examples that showed watercolor effect in foliage. But I am having a hard time seeing it in the images you posted. Where exactly? I see that the right image has been sharpened more than the left, so it's a bit noisier. But is that the watercolor effect you are referring to?

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In reply to lorange, 5 months ago

I think so many things are taken totally out of proportion here on these forums.  I was reading the Nikon forum and there everyone is complaining about dust ( like its something new ) has always been there on these cameras and you just live with it , clean it and enjoy taking photos :-).

Sometimes I think some do nothing but buy cameras to just investigate if there is a problem , then enjoy talking about it endlessly like its the end of the world ;-).

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lorange wrote:

Ys you know you have to click twice when in the gallery to get full size ?

Its most obvious in the windows and the antenna.

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I guess so, but at 200% it's probably not a major issue in most cases as Joel already remarked. There is also some discoloration in places.

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