FZ200 in dim light.

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FZ200 in dim light.
Dec 21, 2012

I wanted to show you what can do a very small sensor like we have with the FZ200 in dim light, a day with no sun and very cloudly.

All the 3 images are come from JPEG and all 3 are 50% croped from original and of course there are pp.

Sparrowhawk distance: 17 meters.

Squirrel distance: 10 meters

Blackbird distance: 15 meters

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That is nice.  I'd have to jack up the ISO and then do some noise reduction with the FZ150 under those conditions.

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In reply to kryzt, Dec 22, 2012

Excellent shots, really shows off why the FZ200 is the best camera Panasonic ever made, fact!

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In reply to kryzt, Dec 22, 2012

Looks really good on my screen. The soft light is quite nice.

Did you use a tripod and was it at maximum zoom?

Regards,

Arjun.

Check out some of my bird photos with the FZ 200 and FZ 38 on

http://picasaweb.google.com/100483235973839984776/Birds

Some of them were shot in dim light too.

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In reply to Arjun G, Dec 22, 2012

Arjun G wrote:

Looks really good on my screen. The soft light is quite nice.

Did you use a tripod and was it at maximum zoom?

Regards,

Arjun.

Check out some of my bird photos with the FZ 200 and FZ 38 on

http://picasaweb.google.com/100483235973839984776/Birds

Some of them were shot in dim light too.

Thanks for comments,

I didn't use tripod only hand hold and it was all at 600mm.

The major difficulty was the very poor light and to get i clear focus because of the distance and all the branchs so i didn't expected to get a clean shot because of the tiny sensor.

Maybe the key is to hold the camera so stable that you help your shoot a lot.

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kryzt wrote:

Arjun G wrote:

Looks really good on my screen. The soft light is quite nice.

Did you use a tripod and was it at maximum zoom?

Regards,

Arjun.

Check out some of my bird photos with the FZ 200 and FZ 38 on

http://picasaweb.google.com/100483235973839984776/Birds

Some of them were shot in dim light too.

Thanks for comments,

I didn't use tripod only hand hold and it was all at 600mm.

The major difficulty was the very poor light and to get i clear focus because of the distance and all the branchs so i didn't expected to get a clean shot because of the tiny sensor.

Maybe the key is to hold the camera so stable that you help your shoot a lot.

Thats amazing for a full 600mm shot, you must have steady grip

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What helps me sometime is use the 2 second shutter delay timer so that when you press the shutter button you stop moving before the shutter is opened.  Helps you get the best hand held shots at long zoom.

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Very nice shot.  I also like the soft feeling of the shots.

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In reply to manthasfamily, Jan 2, 2013

Was there a reason to use f/3.2 in the first shot, and 2.8 in the others? Great photos!

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Those were great shots. Very nice and sharp for hand held. My taste would have lightened them slightly. I am amazed you got the focus so well with all the branches in front of the birds. Good job!!

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NS 1 wrote:

Was there a reason to use f/3.2 in the first shot, and 2.8 in the others? Great photos!

Thanks for your comment , i don't remember why i put it to f3.2 but i don't think it will change anything to be f2.8 or f4.0 with the long distance from the subject.

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Jerry045 wrote:

Those were great shots. Very nice and sharp for hand held. My taste would have lightened them slightly. I am amazed you got the focus so well with all the branches in front of the birds. Good job!!

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Thanks Jerry for your comment. Yes you right i miss some light during this day i took them and i use the tiny spot focus on subject or if not good enough i try manuel focus too. The key if take your time and shot more than one picture each time to be sure to have good one.

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Jerry045 wrote:

Those were great shots. Very nice and sharp for hand held. My taste would have lightened them slightly. I am amazed you got the focus so well with all the branches in front of the birds. Good job!!

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About 1/2 of the commentors here seem to forget that this and other Panasonic cameras haveVERY GOOD Optical Image Stabilization, and as such a steady hand & 'good grip' aren't all that important at 1/125th second.

I think you have put your finger on it, Jerry, the focusing is brilliant.

And - I, too think lighter would be better:

What I AM wondering about are the strange "ISO 160" & "ISO 125" which I'll bet were chosen by the camera - what's up with this? I am finding the same thing on my ZS19 and at first I thought it had to do with +/- EV settings, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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Erik Ohlson wrote:

Jerry045 wrote:

Those were great shots. Very nice and sharp for hand held. My taste would have lightened them slightly. I am amazed you got the focus so well with all the branches in front of the birds. Good job!!

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About 1/2 of the commentors here seem to forget that this and other Panasonic cameras haveVERY GOOD Optical Image Stabilization, and as such a steady hand & 'good grip' aren't all that important at 1/125th second.

I think you have put your finger on it, Jerry, the focusing is brilliant.

And - I, too think lighter would be better:

What I AM wondering about are the strange "ISO 160" & "ISO 125" which I'll bet were chosen by the camera - what's up with this? I am finding the same thing on my ZS19 and at first I thought it had to do with +/- EV settings, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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Do you have i.Dynamic active?

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Do you have i.Dynamic active?

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Huh? Is this question for me or the OP?

I, myself, have never heard of "iDynamic" and Google finds it to be something on the G@, but does have a suggestion about using it in similar circumstances.

As far as what I posted - levels & a bit of unsharp mask.

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sherman_levine wrote:

Do you have i.Dynamic active?

Sherm

Huh? Is this question for me or the OP?

I, myself, have never heard of "iDynamic" and Google finds it to be something on the G@, but does have a suggestion about using it in similar circumstances.

As far as what I posted - levels & a bit of unsharp mask.

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Erik,

I think i.Dynamic is called i.Exposure on your camera.

It changes contrast on a per-image basis, and as part of that can nudge the ISO above the selected value.

Sherm

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Erik Ohlson wrote:

What I AM wondering about are the strange "ISO 160" & "ISO 125" which I'll bet were chosen by the camera - what's up with this? I am finding the same thing on my ZS19 and at first I thought it had to do with +/- EV settings, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

For FZ200 that is possible with setting "ISO Increments" in the Rec menu to 1/3 EV. It will then choose from [100]/[125]/[160]/[200]/[250]/[320]/[400]/[500]/[640]/[800]/[1000]/[1250]/[1600]/
[2000]/[2500]/[3200]/[H4000]/[H5000]/[H6400]. And also you can then manually choose from these options when setting ISO manually by the "up arrow" button.

I think default setting was 1 EV, which brings only [100]/[200]/[400]/[800]/[1600]/[3200]/[H6400].

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In reply to Marek Podmaka, Jan 13, 2013

I've seen beautiful pictures in that link ... with very little light, wow, the 200 behaves Fz wonders ..

www.flickr.com/photos/mirjamvanklaarbergen/8371984991/in/photostream

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