Silkypix Developer Studio Pro for Panasonic - Special !!!

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ChrisJS
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Silkypix Developer Studio Pro for Panasonic - Special !!!
Dec 14, 2012

Hi,

Just had an email newsletter from Silkypix regarding an upgrade from the 3.1se software to Silkypix Developer Studio Pro for Panasonic (version 5)

Its restricted to Panasonic cameras only and seems a good price - £28 - $45 - Yen3800 compared to the unrestricted version at around $320 - £200 - Yen27000... for limited time only..

There is a free trial and I just pulled it down and had a quick look, its 64bit.

I fired up a FZ200 800ISO image..the default settings were for me very impressive especially in the Noise reduction department and just required a tadge more sharpening to make me happy...

For me, compared to PP RAW in ACR (LR4.3 or CS6), this is appears to be very good indeed and could well be a cost effective route to good PP Panasonic RAW.

Okay, there's a mass of stuff on the forum regarding Silkypix but perhaps some people have not learnt to use the software - it uses different terminology compared to adobe ... whatever, it may be good for you..

Here's the link.. http://www2.isl.co.jp/SILKYPIX/english/campaign/forpana/download/dl_dsp5fpwin.cgi

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Chris

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In reply to ChrisJS, Dec 14, 2012

I use Sillypix all the time for RAW pp on all my Panny cameras. The free version works great - you can even change the demosaic algorithm if you play with the tabs.

However, you need to understand what a mosaic is. And I think that is the barrier to entry of the Panny Sillypix software - it is great for pros, but requires a knowledge of digital photography.

From what you are saying the Pro Sillypix version seems more user-friendly...

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I got the email and clicked on the website. I was a bit puzzled by this statement:

"Note) A connection to the Internet (online certification) is required for using this product."

Any idea what's it about?

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In reply to trevmar, Dec 14, 2012

trevmar wrote:

From what you are saying the Pro Sillypix version seems more user-friendly...

No, I would not say that, Silkypix is just different to say Adobe... but the

"Improved high ISO speed noise suppression.This enables high-speed shutter in dark places. High-performance noise reduction "NR3" / Suppress the color noise that occurs in the dark. / Fringe removal function"

appears really good compared to ACR.

Coincidently, I've been doing a fair bit of experimenting with CS6 / LR4 ACR engine to see if it worth moving up - at first glance Silkypix 5 does a far better job... even bolt on the ACR - deNoise or NeatImage plugins -   as regards further manipulation CS5 or even some of the less popular softare is fine...

There are additional promises of one image HDR, AWB improvements, Black Level tools and improvements to colour mode but I haven't really looked at them yet...

The resultant after PP in this software looks very good, time taken relatively short and for me it appears as good if not better that ACR and I probably buy it.

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Chris

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Skip wrote:

I got the email and clicked on the website. I was a bit puzzled by this statement:

"Note) A connection to the Internet (online certification) is required for using this product."

Any idea what's it about?

You have to fill in 3 fields to download it - name, email address and something else - I forget - you can opt out of newsletters etc...

The trial is for 1 month then you have to buy and enter a code to continue.

There's no 'Cloud' rental such as CS6 upgrades etc... as far as I can see..

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ChrisJS wrote:

I fired up a FZ200 800ISO image..the default settings were for me very impressive especially in the Noise reduction department and just required a tadge more sharpening to make me happy...

It may not be "cool" to use the default settings, but I tend to, and it is a big plus if they give a good result.

Thanks for telling us about this deal Chris!

If you get it, please let us know about your further experience, especially with the default settings - if they work well, why bother to sweat the complicated stuff?

Mike

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ChrisJS wrote:

Skip wrote:

I got the email and clicked on the website. I was a bit puzzled by this statement:

"Note) A connection to the Internet (online certification) is required for using this product."

Any idea what's it about?

You have to fill in 3 fields to download it - name, email address and something else - I forget - you can opt out of newsletters etc...

The trial is for 1 month then you have to buy and enter a code to continue.

There's no 'Cloud' rental such as CS6 upgrades etc... as far as I can see..

I don't have any experience with them, but I am concerned that they didn't say the internet was required for download, but instead said it was required for 'using.' Makes me think they want to spy on me or something. Actually, they can spy all they want - they would quickly give up from boredom. But what concerns me is that if my isp went out during some sort of winter storm or I couldn't make the payment, or whatever, I still would want to be able to process my photos without the internet.

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Skip wrote:

I don't have any experience with them, but I am concerned that they didn't say the internet was required for download, but instead said it was required for 'using.'........... I still would want to be able to process my photos without the internet.

Sometimes meanings get lost in translation... here's what the their web says..

This product is only available by download.
This license can be registered in your own 2 computers.
This license is the same Windows / Macintosh.
(Note) A connection to the Internet (online certification) is required for using this product.

> >> Mikedigi

Certainly so far, the resultants are very good... others milage may vary ... I cannot find any disablements in the trial version ....

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In reply to ChrisJS, Dec 14, 2012

Hi Chris,

I recently bought an LX7.

I just tried to buy the Silkypix software at the low price, and couldn't figure out how to make the saile go through.

They want a product serial #, but I don't know what for.

I tired the LX7 serial # and that didn't work.

I couldn't find a Silkypix serial # on the 3.1 software that came with the LX7.

Any suggestions?

Thanks and good health,  Weogo

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Weogo wrote:

Hi Chris,

I recently bought an LX7.

I just tried to buy the Silkypix software at the low price, and couldn't figure out how to make the saile go through.

They want a product serial #, but I don't know what for.

I tired the LX7 serial # and that didn't work.

I couldn't find a Silkypix serial # on the 3.1 software that came with the LX7.

Any suggestions?

Thanks and good health, Weogo

Hi Weogo...

I'm just starting the trial but I checked the email and this link will take you a Silkypix page

http://www.isl.co.jp/SILKYPIX/english/campaign/forpana/

scroll down and on the right there is 2 image links to buy - 1 to their online store and the other to a PayPal linked purchase...

They seem to work OK...

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Chris

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In reply to ChrisJS, Dec 15, 2012

Downloading now...slow site!

So I don't see how you can pay for it...is the link to pay in the program?  Granted will try it first.  Does it install on 32bit OS?

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Wow this really is good isn't it!  Its better than camera raw 7.2 and just using the defaults on an iso800 image.

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ChrisJS wrote:

Skip wrote:


I don't have any experience with them, but I am concerned that they didn't say the internet was required for download, but instead said it was required for 'using.'........... I still would want to be able to process my photos without the internet.

Sometimes meanings get lost in translation... here's what the their web says..

This product is only available by download.
This license can be registered in your own 2 computers.
This license is the same Windows / Macintosh.
(Note) A connection to the Internet (online certification) is required for using this product.

> >> Mikedigi

Certainly so far, the resultants are very good... others milage may vary ... I cannot find any disablements in the trial version ....

Online Armor says "Keylogger Detected" when using this version!!

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In reply to ChrisJS, Dec 15, 2012

But the high prices and increasingly fragmented product lines really irked me.  I really hate and despise companies that offer all the product tiers with one or two things missing from each one.  Bah!  There's only 1 Aperture, 1 ACR, 1 Raw Developer, 1 PhotoMechanic, 1 iPhoto - no need to splinter any of those into 5 different price tiers.

And I'm not sure this is a good deal if it means another $45 (or worse, full price) when the LX8 comes out.

Having ranted, I am downloading it to see whether it really has been improved enough to get over my annoyance at the company. 

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Well it looked so good with my FZ200 ISO 800 images I bought it!  So good that I plan to just shoot raw from now on and use the defaults.  At least on high iso's.

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Trafford wrote:

.......

Online Armor says "Keylogger Detected" when using this version!!

I would be very surprised that there is any issues here as the file is offered and downloaded from Silypix's own site ... but then anything is possible.

Certainly, my anti-virus reveals nothing and there are no alerts on Comodo FW.

'Online Armor' although quite effective is well known for 'false positives'...

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Ronomy wrote:

Well it looked so good with my FZ200 ISO 800 images I bought it! So good that I plan to just shoot raw from now on and use the defaults. At least on high iso's.

After a long session and copious studying of the manual to get to grips with their terminology I agree its a keeper on the NR and SH functionality alone!  The 1 image HDR & Dodger tools are good and the absolute WB is very effective -  but the terminology and manual well... suffice to say its an acquired taste - but once learnt it all works remarkably well...

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In reply to Pikme, Dec 15, 2012

I tried it and it does seem really good.  A little clunky with view refreshes, but that might be my slower speed computer. Very good aberration controller and I like the dynamic range expansion as it doesn't look like HDR.

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ChrisJS wrote:

Ronomy wrote:

Well it looked so good with my FZ200 ISO 800 images I bought it! So good that I plan to just shoot raw from now on and use the defaults. At least on high iso's.

After a long session and copious studying of the manual to get to grips with their terminology I agree its a keeper on the NR and SH functionality alone! The 1 image HDR & Dodger tools are good and the absolute WB is very effective - but the terminology and manual well... suffice to say its an acquired taste - but once learnt it all works remarkably well...

Me too!  It's a little gem and seems to run much faster than previous versions of Silkypix that I've used.  The results are excellent - better than I can do with ACR by quite a bit, with NR/sharpness especially.

Their terminology is unfamiliar and the translated manual is sometimes obscure; but worth persisting with given the excellent IQ output from even the higher ISO files.

The built-in auto-development of an image based on the camera model & EXIF data is very welcome too.  One can spend hours making and saving such profiles for later auto -development in AdobeCameraRaw.

Given that this Silkypix auto-development of FZ200 RAWs is so good it makes one wonder - why not put the identical development engine in the camera, so it's jpegs are much better?  Perhaps it's the processing power required to run it.

SirLataxe, very pleased with Chris for finding this for us.

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In reply to Pikme, Dec 15, 2012

I know its blowing me away with every RAW file I load.  The best images yet out of my FZ200 and even pixel peeping lower iso's its very clean and the best fine detail yet out of my camera at all zoom levels.  Well worth the $45-$46!

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