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Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
5 months ago
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Hi,
I tend to buy the above (chipped) lens as a WA solution to my D800. As, so far, I haven't used any non-AF lens, I'd appreciate if somebody can enlighten me as to the following operational aspects:
Thanks
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Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
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Re: Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
In reply to mibadt,
5 months ago
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mibadt wrote:
Hi,
I tend to buy the above (chipped) lens as a WA solution to my D800. As, so far, I haven't used any non-AF lens, I'd appreciate if somebody can enlighten me as to the following operational aspects:
Thanks
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Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
I don't know what you mean by a chipped version (is the chip there to pass exif data?) so here are my responses for the version I use on D800e.
1. yes
2. No
3. No
4.No
5.Yes
6.No
7. Use the camera in aperture priority setting the aperture on the lens, camera chooses the appropriate shutter speed. Or use in manual mode and set the shutter speed on camera. Focus manually through LV or viewfinder. Works like a charm. Lens sharp to furthest corners (as long as you are focussed at the corner). I do not get lens exif data from mine (only shutter speed) but maybe that chipped version you speak of does that.
Enjoy!
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Alistair Owens
http://www.alistairowensphotography.com
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Re: Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
In reply to A Owens,
5 months ago
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Thanks for your insight.
Just to clarify, I'm referring to this lens.
Anybody else?
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Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
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Re: Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
In reply to mibadt,
5 months ago
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mibadt wrote:
Thanks for your insight.
Just to clarify, I'm referring to this lens.
Anybody else?
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Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
I am somewhat mystified by the answers given in the previous response. If I read the questions correctly the answers were almost all wrong. Maybe I should go back and see if the questions were asked in the negative.
The chipped version of the Samyang lenses give you complete automatic (or electronic) control of the lens. The lens will behave just like any modern day Nikon lens except that it is manual focus. The answer to almost all your questions is 'yes'. I have the 85mm Samyang. The 14mm chipped version of the lens should behave in the same way.
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Mike Dawson
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Re: Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
In reply to mibadt,
5 months ago
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mibadt wrote:
Hi,
I tend to buy the above (chipped) lens as a WA solution to my D800. As, so far, I haven't used any non-AF lens, I'd appreciate if somebody can enlighten me as to the following operational aspects:
Thanks
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Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
A couple of links you may find useful
http://www.samyang.co.uk/samyang-14mm-f28-if-ed-umc-nikon-ae.html
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/samyang-14mm-f-2-8-ed-as-if-umc-lens-review-19621
from the review
The version tested here includes a metering chip with electronic contacts so matrix metering is supported on all Nikon cameras. This means the lens has to be left at f/22 to operate normally on modern Nikon cameras, but no lock is provided to hold the aperture in this position. No such issues should be encountered with the basic version, as no metering information is transferred to the camera.
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Q 1 to 6 = YES
In reply to mibadt,
5 months ago
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Q 7: the lens focusses way beyond "infinity", i.e. if you set the lens to infinity on the distance scale everything will be blurry. In my experience - as well as others - setting the lens at ~3m will result in sharpness out to infinity.
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Re: Q 1 to 6 = YES
In reply to Ralf Ronander,
5 months ago
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On the fish eye, that's something you can adjust at home with a screwdriver (I don't remember if it's phillips or flat.
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Re: Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
In reply to michaeladawson,
5 months ago
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michaeladawson wrote:
mibadt wrote:
Thanks for your insight.
Just to clarify, I'm referring to this lens.
Anybody else?
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Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
I am somewhat mystified by the answers given in the previous response. If I read the questions correctly the answers were almost all wrong. Maybe I should go back and see if the questions were asked in the negative.
The chipped version of the Samyang lenses give you complete automatic (or electronic) control of the lens. The lens will behave just like any modern day Nikon lens except that it is manual focus. The answer to almost all your questions is 'yes'. I have the 85mm Samyang. The 14mm chipped version of the lens should behave in the same way.
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Mike Dawson
Correct. And I have the 14mm Rokinon (chipped) version. And for those that don't know, the "chipped" version means the lens has a CPU chip to work with the auto exposure system of the camera. Everything works other than auto focus as this is a manual focus lens.
As for Exif data...
Dreamwalk, D800E, Rokinon 14mm lens (chipped). Color Efex soft filter applied
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Re: Q 1 to 6 = YES
In reply to Ralf Ronander,
5 months ago
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Ralf Ronander wrote:
Q 7: the lens focusses way beyond "infinity", i.e. if you set the lens to infinity on the distance scale everything will be blurry. In my experience - as well as others - setting the lens at ~3m will result in sharpness out to infinity.
True; however, you can always use the green focus dot in the view finder. That's what I do, and I have no problems. But yes, the infinity side seems to be off a little. Other than that, it's a great lens for the money, and it's plenty sharp.
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Re: Q 1 to 6 = YES
In reply to Ralf Ronander,
5 months ago
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Ralf Ronander wrote:
Q 7: the lens focusses way beyond "infinity", i.e. if you set the lens to infinity on the distance scale everything will be blurry. In my experience - as well as others - setting the lens at ~3m will result in sharpness out to infinity.
The quality control on this lens is poor and from what I've read the focus scale can be all over the place. Some people say infinity is infinity, some say it's at 2m, and plenty in between (including 3m like you have). I had one that initially seemed tilted (left side of frame infinity was beyond infinity on the focus scale, middle was ~ 3m, right side of frame was ~2m) but opened it up and tinkered with it a bit and now it's pretty spot on.
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Re: Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
In reply to michaeladawson,
5 months ago
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michaeladawson wrote:
mibadt wrote:
Thanks for your insight.
Just to clarify, I'm referring to this lens.
Anybody else?
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Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
I am somewhat mystified by the answers given in the previous response. If I read the questions correctly the answers were almost all wrong. Maybe I should go back and see if the questions were asked in the negative.
The chipped version of the Samyang lenses give you complete automatic (or electronic) control of the lens. The lens will behave just like any modern day Nikon lens except that it is manual focus. The answer to almost all your questions is 'yes'. I have the 85mm Samyang. The 14mm chipped version of the lens should behave in the same way.
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Mike Dawson
My lens works like mike wrote above. The previous answers are wrong.
V
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NPU.member
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Re: Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
In reply to Verkku,
5 months ago
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Verkku wrote:
michaeladawson wrote:
mibadt wrote:
Thanks for your insight.
Just to clarify, I'm referring to this lens.
Anybody else?
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Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
I am somewhat mystified by the answers given in the previous response. If I read the questions correctly the answers were almost all wrong. Maybe I should go back and see if the questions were asked in the negative.
The chipped version of the Samyang lenses give you complete automatic (or electronic) control of the lens. The lens will behave just like any modern day Nikon lens except that it is manual focus. The answer to almost all your questions is 'yes'. I have the 85mm Samyang. The 14mm chipped version of the lens should behave in the same way.
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Mike Dawson
My lens works like mike wrote above. The previous answers are wrong.
V
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NPU.member
Probably just confusion between the chipped/non-chipped version of the lens.
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Re: Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
In reply to Verkku,
5 months ago
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Verkku wrote:
michaeladawson wrote:
mibadt wrote:
Thanks for your insight.
Just to clarify, I'm referring to this lens.
Anybody else?
--
Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
I am somewhat mystified by the answers given in the previous response. If I read the questions correctly the answers were almost all wrong. Maybe I should go back and see if the questions were asked in the negative.
The chipped version of the Samyang lenses give you complete automatic (or electronic) control of the lens. The lens will behave just like any modern day Nikon lens except that it is manual focus. The answer to almost all your questions is 'yes'. I have the 85mm Samyang. The 14mm chipped version of the lens should behave in the same way.
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Mike Dawson
My lens works like mike wrote above. The previous answers are wrong.
V
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NPU.member
To be clear, you might want to clarify/specify what "previous answers" you're talking about. I, like you, agree with Mike - that the chipped version gives full electronic auto exposure.
Thanks.
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Re: Q 1 to 6 = YES
In reply to gobiassumcoffee,
5 months ago
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gobiassumcoffee wrote:
Ralf Ronander wrote:
Q 7: the lens focusses way beyond "infinity", i.e. if you set the lens to infinity on the distance scale everything will be blurry. In my experience - as well as others - setting the lens at ~3m will result in sharpness out to infinity.
The quality control on this lens is poor and from what I've read the focus scale can be all over the place. Some people say infinity is infinity, some say it's at 2m, and plenty in between (including 3m like you have). I had one that initially seemed tilted (left side of frame infinity was beyond infinity on the focus scale, middle was ~ 3m, right side of frame was ~2m) but opened it up and tinkered with it a bit and now it's pretty spot on.
Is it an easy fix? Like changing the position of a limit screw? If so, I may try to fix mine!
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Thanks for the tip
In reply to nelsonal,
5 months ago
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I´ll try that
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Just chipping in to say...
In reply to Meganrogers,
5 months ago
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This is a great lens. Admittedly my first copy was decentered but it was replaced immediately with one that is perfect.
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Brian
Fine Art Print sales of the Isle of Skye at:
http://www.eyeofskye.co.uk/
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Re: Q 1 to 6 = YES
In reply to Meganrogers,
5 months ago
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Meganrogers wrote:
gobiassumcoffee wrote:
Ralf Ronander wrote:
Q 7: the lens focusses way beyond "infinity", i.e. if you set the lens to infinity on the distance scale everything will be blurry. In my experience - as well as others - setting the lens at ~3m will result in sharpness out to infinity.
The quality control on this lens is poor and from what I've read the focus scale can be all over the place. Some people say infinity is infinity, some say it's at 2m, and plenty in between (including 3m like you have). I had one that initially seemed tilted (left side of frame infinity was beyond infinity on the focus scale, middle was ~ 3m, right side of frame was ~2m) but opened it up and tinkered with it a bit and now it's pretty spot on.
Is it an easy fix? Like changing the position of a limit screw? If so, I may try to fix mine!
Not particularly; I wouldn't have bothered if it was just a miscalibrated focus scale but the tilt on mine was a real issue that needed resolving. I hear lots of people complaining of decentering with this lens but I wonder if it's not actually a tilt issue like mine had. The defects can look somewhat similar; i.e. the edges being blurry when the center is in focus.
If your only issue is a miscalibrated focus scale and optically the lens is fine then I wouldn't bother. There are ways to tweak that but I don't think it's worth the effort.
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Re: Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
In reply to ADMint,
5 months ago
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ADMint wrote:
Verkku wrote:
michaeladawson wrote:
mibadt wrote:
Thanks for your insight.
Just to clarify, I'm referring to this lens.
Anybody else?
--
Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
I am somewhat mystified by the answers given in the previous response. If I read the questions correctly the answers were almost all wrong. Maybe I should go back and see if the questions were asked in the negative.
The chipped version of the Samyang lenses give you complete automatic (or electronic) control of the lens. The lens will behave just like any modern day Nikon lens except that it is manual focus. The answer to almost all your questions is 'yes'. I have the 85mm Samyang. The 14mm chipped version of the lens should behave in the same way.
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Mike Dawson
My lens works like mike wrote above. The previous answers are wrong.
V
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NPU.member
To be clear, you might want to clarify/specify what "previous answers" you're talking about. I, like you, agree with Mike - that the chipped version gives full electronic auto exposure.
Thanks.
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New to this forum, not to forums!
Are you all saying that the chipped version controls the aperture from the camera? So you can use it in Shutter priority and the camera will work the aperture? If so disregard my answers. As I said they refer to the version I have which is a Samyang ED AS IF UMC made in Korea!
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Alistair Owens
http://www.alistairowensphotography.com
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Re: Q 1 to 6 = YES
In reply to gobiassumcoffee,
5 months ago
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Thanks all of you for the detailed responses which helped me decide to go for it!
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Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
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Re: Operational aspects of D800+Samyang 14mm/2.8 (chipped)
In reply to A Owens,
5 months ago
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A Owens wrote:
ADMint wrote:
Verkku wrote:
michaeladawson wrote:
mibadt wrote:
Thanks for your insight.
Just to clarify, I'm referring to this lens.
Anybody else?
--
Regards, Michael Badt Photos gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mibadt/
I am somewhat mystified by the answers given in the previous response. If I read the questions correctly the answers were almost all wrong. Maybe I should go back and see if the questions were asked in the negative.
The chipped version of the Samyang lenses give you complete automatic (or electronic) control of the lens. The lens will behave just like any modern day Nikon lens except that it is manual focus. The answer to almost all your questions is 'yes'. I have the 85mm Samyang. The 14mm chipped version of the lens should behave in the same way.
--
Mike Dawson
My lens works like mike wrote above. The previous answers are wrong.
V
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NPU.member
To be clear, you might want to clarify/specify what "previous answers" you're talking about. I, like you, agree with Mike - that the chipped version gives full electronic auto exposure.
Thanks.
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New to this forum, not to forums!
Have you guys read the questions? Lets go through them again slowly:
Now which particular response do you feel is wrong?
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Alistair Owens
http://www.alistairowensphotography.com
I have the chipped version of the lens. I set the lens to f/22 and the camera controls aperture. The aperture shows up in my EXIF. You clearly do not have the chipped version of the lens, or perhaps yours is malfunctioning.
Check the EXIF - I promise you I did not alter it.
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