NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment Locked

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Maroof Choudhury
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NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
5 months ago

I enjoy landscape photography so I carry a light weight camera during my backpacking trips.

I bought this camera as a replacement for my Lumix LX5. Found this camera to be a huge disappointment. The lens is not sharp, the contrast is poor. Too much internal reflections and flare. Its very difficult to point this camera with the sun anywhere in the view. The image capture is VERY noisy above 200 ISO. The dynamic range is not anywhere comparable to the LX5. The D-lighting feature is not effective. The widest this lens can go is 28mm eqv compared to 24mm with the LX5.The body is bulky and heavy for no apparent reason - battery life is not impressive either. Buttons and ergonomics are not well thought through.

Nikon USA... can I get my money back?

Edited 5 months ago by Maroof Choudhury
Ben Herrmann
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What friekin' camera are you talking about?
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

Save us the suspense - will ya....which camera are you referencing here?  If you're talking about the P7700, then I must take issue with you as I also have the LX-5.

I love both cameras, but the P7700 is certainly not lacking.  It's a matter of "knowing your camera," that's for sure.  All too often folks get a camera, put everything on Program or Auto mode and then, wallaaaaaa.....they eventually wind up being disappointed.

I use the P7700 in RAW mode and the files I get are superb - close to DSLR quality.  So, if you're referencing the P7700, then what can I say.

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Edited 5 months ago by Ben Herrmann
Steinhansel
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Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

The other members of this forum will positively FRY this guy!

dpmaxwell
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Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

Maroof Choudhury wrote:

I enjoy landscape photography so I carry a light weight camera during my backpacking trips.

I bought this camera as a replacement for my Lumix LX5. Found this camera to be a huge disappointment. The lens is not sharp, the contrast is poor. Too much internal reflections and flare. Its very difficult to point this camera with the sun anywhere in the view. The image capture is VERY noisy above 200 ISO. The dynamic range is not anywhere comparable to the LX5. The D-lighting feature is not effective. The widest this lens can go is 28mm eqv compared to 24mm with the LX5.The body is bulky and heavy for no apparent reason - battery life is not impressive either. Buttons and ergonomics are not well thought through.

Nikon USA... can I get my money back?

Glad you are enjoying your new Nikon P7700 with Extra-large 12.2 megapixel CMOS sensor and Full HD (1080p) videos with stereo sound!

Please be sure to "like" us on facebook - http://www.facebook.com/nikon.

Signed,

Nikon USA

Edited 5 months ago by dpmaxwell
walkaround
Regular MemberPosts: 299
Your post - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

Maroof Choudhury wrote:

I enjoy landscape photography so I carry a light weight camera during my backpacking trips.

I bought this camera as a replacement for my Lumix LX5. Found this camera to be a huge disappointment. The lens is not sharp, the contrast is poor. Too much internal reflections and flare. Its very difficult to point this camera with the sun anywhere in the view. The image capture is VERY noisy above 200 ISO. The dynamic range is not anywhere comparable to the LX5. The D-lighting feature is not effective. The widest this lens can go is 28mm eqv compared to 24mm with the LX5.The body is bulky and heavy for no apparent reason - battery life is not impressive either. Buttons and ergonomics are not well thought through.

Nikon USA... can I get my money back?

This doesn't even deserve a point by point response. I can't even grant you that these may be subjective opinions - they are so far off base and false. Please go somewhere else TROLL.

mallbuedel
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Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

Lame provocation 

mallbuedel
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Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to mallbuedel, 5 months ago

mallbuedel wrote:

Lame provocation

If it wasn't meant so... you must have checked the cam before buying it, so you knew before, or was it from heaven sent?

Edited 5 months ago by mallbuedel
ehazera
Senior MemberPosts: 1,715
Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

Set the camera to A .

"arshole"

Edited 5 months ago by ehazera
Juggernaut122
Regular MemberPosts: 277
Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

Hi find the P7700 to be great.

Images are very sharp.   Even at ISO at 800 in low light they are pretty darn good for a point and shoot with so much reach.

Can't say anything about anyone else, but I went through a lot researching this camera and others.  Bought a different one and returned it because it was unimpressive.

But this camera - it is like having a cool younger brother to my DSLR.  Not as good as the DSLR but definitely an acceptable substitute when I don't want to carry the D5100.

Juggernaut

MMS Photo
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Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

..and once again, a brand new member's first post trashes the P7700.

Am I seeing a trend here?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3347820

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donaldsc
Senior MemberPosts: 1,072
Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

I notice that this is your 1st post.

So tell us - do you like your new camera?

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Yvan/G2
Regular MemberPosts: 171
Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

Hey Maroof, I also purchased the P7700 recently and I find the whole package really outstanding.

Have you used DPR Studio comparison tool? The watch is off centre and its rendition tells a lot about lens quality. Compare the images of the LX3, LX5, LX7 and the P7700.

Case closed!

Nikonworks
Senior MemberPosts: 1,978
Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

Maroof Choudhury wrote:" really

I enjoy landscape photography so I carry a light weight camera during my backpacking trips.

I bought this camera as a replacement for my Lumix LX5. Found this camera to be a huge disappointment. The lens is not sharp, the contrast is poor. Too much internal reflections and flare. Its very difficult to point this camera with the sun anywhere in the view. The image capture is VERY noisy above 200 ISO. The dynamic range is not anywhere comparable to the LX5. The D-lighting feature is not effective. The widest this lens can go is 28mm eqv compared to 24mm with the LX5.The body is bulky and heavy for no apparent reason - battery life is not impressive either. Buttons and ergonomics are not well thought through.

Nikon USA... can I get my money back?

Hello,

Your...... "The widest this lens can go is 28mm eqv compared to 24mm with......" comment

really reveals what is under your sheep's clothing.

While you are here why not get invloved with a real hobby:  digital photography.

No film to buy, not bad, and plenty of help for you right here.

Patco
Forum ProPosts: 11,066
Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Nikonworks, 5 months ago

Nikonworks wrote:

Maroof Choudhury wrote:" really

I enjoy landscape photography so I carry a light weight camera during my backpacking trips.

I bought this camera as a replacement for my Lumix LX5. Found this camera to be a huge disappointment. The lens is not sharp, the contrast is poor. Too much internal reflections and flare. Its very difficult to point this camera with the sun anywhere in the view. The image capture is VERY noisy above 200 ISO. The dynamic range is not anywhere comparable to the LX5. The D-lighting feature is not effective. The widest this lens can go is 28mm eqv compared to 24mm with the LX5.The body is bulky and heavy for no apparent reason - battery life is not impressive either. Buttons and ergonomics are not well thought through.

Nikon USA... can I get my money back?

Hello,

Your...... "The widest this lens can go is 28mm eqv compared to 24mm with......" comment

really reveals what is under your sheep's clothing.

While you are here why not get invloved with a real hobby: digital photography.

No film to buy, not bad, and plenty of help for you right here.

Using full frame FOV equivalences to compare lenses used with different sized sensors is pretty well accepted in the digital world.  The comparison is not necessarily based on film cameras, as the same equivalency holds true with 36mm x 24mm sensors.

But yes, the OP seems to have made a wrong turn somewhere.

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Patco
A photograph is more than a bunch of pixels

mobydick
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Strange...
In reply to Maroof Choudhury, 5 months ago

I also use the P7700. I don't know the LX5, my comparison points are the Canon G10 and a large number of DSLRs/DSLTs I own or owned in the past.

Based on my experience with these cameras, I think that the P7700 stands up pretty well even against serious DSLRs (of course, taking into account the different sensor sizes and different typs of technology).

In the end, I won't agree with any of your statements about the P7700 except for your comment about the focal range. Of course, there are some points I would like to see improved, but overall my impression about the P7700 is very positive.

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Wolfram

Edited 5 months ago by mobydick
walkaround
Regular MemberPosts: 299
DPR should remove these threads
In reply to mobydick, 5 months ago

The OP's mission was simply to place that headline in the forum. It will probably show up in google searches, and he realizes the negative impression it will leave. I won't speculate which company he works for, but "they" have been hitting Flickr also with similar bizarre posts.

Greynerd
Senior MemberPosts: 2,138
Re: DPR should remove these threads
In reply to walkaround, 5 months ago

walkaround wrote:

The OP's mission was simply to place that headline in the forum. It will probably show up in google searches, and he realizes the negative impression it will leave. I won't speculate which company he works for, but "they" have been hitting Flickr also with similar bizarre posts.

They are always a threat. Possibly an automatic system could be set up where any criticism of a camera is detected and supressed. I can understand his point of view because I was disappointed with the pictures I got from a Canon G11. They were OK but I could not understand why the camera cost so much as they were not a great deal better than a normal point and shoot. I think these top end compact cameras are overhyped and I can imagine why people buying them can be a bit disappointed as they have only marginally larger sensors but cost the same or even more than an entry level aps-c camera. You can get a Sony A37/18-55 for £329 in mainline camera shops which is £50 less than the P7700 and I am sure the IQ and real dynamic range would blow the P7700 away but it is just not so compact.

The P7700 is just a compact camera with a slightly bigger sensor so I find it difficult to see how it can be a sacred object beyond criticism. I think these cameras are far too expensive for what they are and the advantage they give over cheaper options oftem with far more reach. They still have the problem of choosing to expose the foreground or the sky which only improves with much bigger sensors. The P7100 suffered from this.

walkaround
Regular MemberPosts: 299
Re: DPR should remove these threads
In reply to Greynerd, 5 months ago

Greynerd wrote:

The P7700 is just a compact camera with a slightly bigger sensor...

...and a faster lens

...and a flip out screen

...and threads for 40.5mm filters

...and Raw format

...and real manual control knobs/dials

...and better ergonomics

...and a hotshoe

...and wireless flash control

...and jacks for remote shutter, stereo mic input

Any other points you want to make while we're on the subject?

Nikonworks
Senior MemberPosts: 1,978
Re: DPR should remove these threads
In reply to walkaround, 5 months ago

walkaround wrote:

The OP's mission was simply to place that headline in the forum. It will probably show up in google searches, and he realizes the negative impression it will leave. I won't speculate which company he works for, but "they" have been hitting Flickr also with similar bizarre posts.

Exactly.

His complaint about the 28mm end is nonsense because he supposedly bought the camera knowing it was 28mm.

Nikonworks
Senior MemberPosts: 1,978
Re: NIKON P7700 - Big Dissappointment
In reply to Patco, 5 months ago

Patco wrote:

Nikonworks wrote:

Maroof Choudhury wrote:" really

I enjoy landscape photography so I carry a light weight camera during my backpacking trips.

I bought this camera as a replacement for my Lumix LX5. Found this camera to be a huge disappointment. The lens is not sharp, the contrast is poor. Too much internal reflections and flare. Its very difficult to point this camera with the sun anywhere in the view. The image capture is VERY noisy above 200 ISO. The dynamic range is not anywhere comparable to the LX5. The D-lighting feature is not effective. The widest this lens can go is 28mm eqv compared to 24mm with the LX5.The body is bulky and heavy for no apparent reason - battery life is not impressive either. Buttons and ergonomics are not well thought through.

Nikon USA... can I get my money back?

Hello,

Your...... "The widest this lens can go is 28mm eqv compared to 24mm with......" comment

really reveals what is under your sheep's clothing.

While you are here why not get invloved with a real hobby: digital photography.

No film to buy, not bad, and plenty of help for you right here.

Using full frame FOV equivalences to compare lenses used with different sized sensors is pretty well accepted in the digital world. The comparison is not necessarily based on film cameras, as the same equivalency holds true with 36mm x 24mm sensors.

But yes, the OP seems to have made a wrong turn somewhere.

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Patco
A photograph is more than a bunch of pixels

You are reading too much into my statement.

The issue on the 28mm comment is he likely never actually bought the camera, in my opinion.

If he did he should have known it was 28mm.

Edited 5 months ago by Nikonworks
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