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String
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I have to laugh...
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Coming from the Nikon world over to the m43 world has been a nice experience - so many small, fast high quality lenses and image quality has me shooting more than I have in years. I still like to pop over to the Nikon boards once in a while just to keep track of what's happening in that world.

Anyway, a thread caught my attention; something along the line of "taking a trip to Disney Land and taking a D4, what's the best carry around lens?"  ????

Seriously, a D4 as a carry around tourist camera? Wow, just wow!

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They don't expect to need shallow DOF, so no need to take the Hasselblad.

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String wrote:

Coming from the Nikon world over to the m43 world has been a nice experience - so many small, fast high quality lenses and image quality has me shooting more than I have in years. I still like to pop over to the Nikon boards once in a while just to keep track of what's happening in that world.

Anyway, a thread caught my attention; something along the line of "taking a trip to Disney Land and taking a D4, what's the best carry around lens?" ????

Seriously, a D4 as a carry around tourist camera? Wow, just wow!

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This past May I saw a guy walking around the Louvre with a Canon 1D series camera and the 100-400L, and he was no pro. Just shrugged my shoulders and walked on with my E-P3, 12/25/45 prime setup.

Think of it as jewelry. The bigger the chain....

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Ulric wrote:

They don't expect to need shallow DOF, so no need to take the Hasselblad.

LOL.  Post of the month.

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I don't understand why you find this funny. Personally, I can't understand why people their 'good' cameras and lenses at home when they go on vacation.

All of my vacations are literally once in a lifetime trips because life is too short to return to the same place twice. Why wouldn't you take your best equipment?

I'm in modest shape so I have no problem carrying my gear aound.


However, I also never take more than I carry on my back all day period. Even when I went to Costa Rica for 3 weeks in the spring everything fit into one backpack that I could shoulder all day.

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I don't understand why you find this funny. Personally, I can't understand why people their 'good' cameras and lenses at home when they go on vacation.

Because they weigh a ton and ruin a family vacation where you have to walk around a lot and it is hot.

All of my vacations are literally once in a lifetime trips because life is too short to return to the same place twice. Why wouldn't you take your best equipment?

Becuase the other, light weight equipment takes pictures that are indistinguishable, and the extra DOF is highly desirable in "Disneyland" shots.

I'm in modest shape so I have no problem carrying my gear aound.

Not everyone is.

Also, you are not in as good shape as you think.


However, I also never take more than I carry on my back all day period. Even when I went to Costa Rica for 3 weeks in the spring everything fit into one backpack that I could shoulder all day.

If you are on a family vacation, you need to carry other stuff on your back, e.g. tired kids!

Doesn't sound like you are every really been on a "family vacation".

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tedolf wrote:

HatWearingFool wrote:

I don't understand why you find this funny. Personally, I can't understand why people their 'good' cameras and lenses at home when they go on vacation.

Because they weigh a ton and ruin a family vacation where you have to walk around a lot and it is hot.

I'm just pointing out how people view things differently. I've my gear for hours at a time in very hot climates so I understand the discomfort invloved.

All of my vacations are literally once in a lifetime trips because life is too short to return to the same place twice. Why wouldn't you take your best equipment?

Becuase the other, light weight equipment takes pictures that are indistinguishable, and the extra DOF is highly desirable in "Disneyland" shots.

Are you claiming the output from a D4 is indistinguishable from a m4/3 camera?

Depth Of Field isn't the only difference between a D4 and m4/3 camera.

I'm in modest shape so I have no problem carrying my gear aound.

Not everyone is.

Also, you are not in as good shape as you think.

I realize I'm not a superstar. I need to lose ~25 pounds. Many people are in much better shape than myself, but I run 5 km (~3 miles) in under 25 minutes 4 days a week and bench my own body weight.

I believe I have a pretty good handle on my level of fitness since I hit the gym 5 days a week, and get annual medical check-ups.


However, I also never take more than I carry on my back all day period. Even when I went to Costa Rica for 3 weeks in the spring everything fit into one backpack that I could shoulder all day.

If you are on a family vacation, you need to carry other stuff on your back, e.g. tired kids!

Doesn't sound like you are every really been on a "family vacation".

I think our ideas of 'family vacation' are just different. Hopefully everyone can agree that shouldn't prompt us to laugh at one another.

I just don't understand why it's ok to laugh at person who wishes to travel with a camera that was an expensive investment.

Do you feel better about your choices when you laugh at people who make different choices?

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HatWearingFool wrote:

tedolf wrote:

HatWearingFool wrote:

I don't understand why you find this funny. Personally, I can't understand why people their 'good' cameras and lenses at home when they go on vacation.

Because they weigh a ton and ruin a family vacation where you have to walk around a lot and it is hot.

I'm just pointing out how people view things differently. I've my gear for hours at a time in very hot climates so I understand the discomfort invloved.

All of my vacations are literally once in a lifetime trips because life is too short to return to the same place twice. Why wouldn't you take your best equipment?

Becuase the other, light weight equipment takes pictures that are indistinguishable, and the extra DOF is highly desirable in "Disneyland" shots.

Are you claiming the output from a D4 is indistinguishable from a m4/3 camera?

Depth Of Field isn't the only difference between a D4 and m4/3 camera.

I'm in modest shape so I have no problem carrying my gear aound.

Not everyone is.

Also, you are not in as good shape as you think.

I realize I'm not a superstar. I need to lose ~25 pounds. Many people are in much better shape than myself, but I run 5 km (~3 miles) in under 25 minutes 4 days a week and bench my own body weight.

I believe I have a pretty good handle on my level of fitness since I hit the gym 5 days a week, and get annual medical check-ups.


However, I also never take more than I carry on my back all day period. Even when I went to Costa Rica for 3 weeks in the spring everything fit into one backpack that I could shoulder all day.

If you are on a family vacation, you need to carry other stuff on your back, e.g. tired kids!

Doesn't sound like you are every really been on a "family vacation".

I think our ideas of 'family vacation' are just different. Hopefully everyone can agree that shouldn't prompt us to laugh at one another.

I just don't understand why it's ok to laugh at person who wishes to travel with a camera that was an expensive investment.

Do you feel better about your choices when you laugh at people who make different choices?

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i totally agree with you, small light and compact isn't important to everyone and shouldn't be used to criticise others

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String wrote:

Coming from the Nikon world over to the m43 world has been a nice experience - so many small, fast high quality lenses and image quality has me shooting more than I have in years. I still like to pop over to the Nikon boards once in a while just to keep track of what's happening in that world.

Anyway, a thread caught my attention; something along the line of "taking a trip to Disney Land and taking a D4, what's the best carry around lens?" ????

Seriously, a D4 as a carry around tourist camera? Wow, just wow!

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HatWearingFool wrote:

tedolf wrote:

HatWearingFool wrote:

I don't understand why you find this funny. Personally, I can't understand why people their 'good' cameras and lenses at home when they go on vacation.

Because they weigh a ton and ruin a family vacation where you have to walk around a lot and it is hot.

I'm just pointing out how people view things differently. I've my gear for hours at a time in very hot climates so I understand the discomfort invloved.

Were you carrying a diaper bag as well?

All of my vacations are literally once in a lifetime trips because life is too short to return to the same place twice. Why wouldn't you take your best equipment?

Becuase the other, light weight equipment takes pictures that are indistinguishable, and the extra DOF is highly desirable in "Disneyland" shots.

Are you claiming the output from a D4 is indistinguishable from a m4/3 camera?

For Disneyland snapshots with deep depth of field in bright daylight printed 4 x 6", maybe 8 x10" at most?

Yes-indistinguishable.

Depth Of Field isn't the only difference between a D4 and m4/3 camera.

I'm in modest shape so I have no problem carrying my gear aound.

Not everyone is.

Also, you are not in as good shape as you think.

I realize I'm not a superstar. I need to lose ~25 pounds. Many people are in much better shape than myself, but I run 5 km (~3 miles) in under 25 minutes 4 days a week and bench my own body weight.

Have you ever been married?

Ever have kids?

Do you have any idea what a wife will load you down with if you have a toddler?

I believe I have a pretty good handle on my level of fitness since I hit the gym 5 days a week, and get annual medical check-ups.

We are all impressed.


However, I also never take more than I carry on my back all day period. Even when I went to Costa Rica for 3 weeks in the spring everything fit into one backpack that I could shoulder all day.

If you are on a family vacation, you need to carry other stuff on your back, e.g. tired kids!

Doesn't sound like you are every really been on a "family vacation".

I think our ideas of 'family vacation' are just different. Hopefully everyone can agree that shouldn't prompt us to laugh at one another.

We are not laughing at you......just shaking our heads.

I just don't understand why it's ok to laugh at person who wishes to travel with a camera that was an expensive investment.

Because they are makeing a foolish spectacle of themselves.

Do you feel better about your choices when you laugh at people who make different choices?

Yes.

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illy wrote:

HatWearingFool wrote:

tedolf wrote:

HatWearingFool wrote:

I don't understand why you find this funny. Personally, I can't understand why people their 'good' cameras and lenses at home when they go on vacation.

Because they weigh a ton and ruin a family vacation where you have to walk around a lot and it is hot.

I'm just pointing out how people view things differently. I've my gear for hours at a time in very hot climates so I understand the discomfort invloved.

All of my vacations are literally once in a lifetime trips because life is too short to return to the same place twice. Why wouldn't you take your best equipment?

Becuase the other, light weight equipment takes pictures that are indistinguishable, and the extra DOF is highly desirable in "Disneyland" shots.

Are you claiming the output from a D4 is indistinguishable from a m4/3 camera?

Depth Of Field isn't the only difference between a D4 and m4/3 camera.

I'm in modest shape so I have no problem carrying my gear aound.

Not everyone is.

Also, you are not in as good shape as you think.

I realize I'm not a superstar. I need to lose ~25 pounds. Many people are in much better shape than myself, but I run 5 km (~3 miles) in under 25 minutes 4 days a week and bench my own body weight.

I believe I have a pretty good handle on my level of fitness since I hit the gym 5 days a week, and get annual medical check-ups.


However, I also never take more than I carry on my back all day period. Even when I went to Costa Rica for 3 weeks in the spring everything fit into one backpack that I could shoulder all day.

If you are on a family vacation, you need to carry other stuff on your back, e.g. tired kids!

Doesn't sound like you are every really been on a "family vacation".

I think our ideas of 'family vacation' are just different. Hopefully everyone can agree that shouldn't prompt us to laugh at one another.

I just don't understand why it's ok to laugh at person who wishes to travel with a camera that was an expensive investment.

Do you feel better about your choices when you laugh at people who make different choices?

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i totally agree with you, small light and compact isn't important to everyone and shouldn't be used to criticise others

I know some kids do that.

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I've found this man reasonable: he did not ask for 3 travel kit lenses

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I saw a guy in a museum with a large Canon kit around his neck, and he was taking a picture of a sculpture with his cell phone!  I tried to catch the shots with my camera but wasn't quick enough.  Pretty funny looking, though.

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String wrote:

Coming from the Nikon world over to the m43 world has been a nice experience - so many small, fast high quality lenses and image quality has me shooting more than I have in years. I still like to pop over to the Nikon boards once in a while just to keep track of what's happening in that world.

Anyway, a thread caught my attention; something along the line of "taking a trip to Disney Land and taking a D4, what's the best carry around lens?" ????

Seriously, a D4 as a carry around tourist camera? Wow, just wow!

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What's wrong with taking a D4 to Disney Land?

I use to take one to Vegas all the time, until my bad back told me otherwise.

Then I decided the iPhone was all I needed most of the time.

If you're not a professional on paid assignment, who needs a fancy expensive camera for snaps anyway. Right?

With a cell phone even photography can be fun

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I just don't understand why it's ok to laugh at person who wishes to travel with a camera that was an expensive investment.

C'mon, can't we laugh a little bit?  I promise lots of D800 users laugh at M43 guys with our toy cameras and crappy image quality.  What's wrong with a little good-natured snickering?

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Went I wen to Disney, there were DSLRs everywhere.   I carried an E-PM1 in my cargo shorts along with several lenses and my wife took, with out any issues, an A65 and super-zoom.

Still, the D4 is way too big. 

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get my vote for the fine sarcasm and the "photographer" reality check.

I just imagined you walking down a Punta-kana beach and totally agree with you.

At such moment then what is more important : freedom in your hands and shoulders, or an obligation to "register" the beautiful moment with the "best" and heaviest camera ?

You either hold hands with your wife and kids or carry your "cross".

I bet the wife and kids will remember forever that moment you spent together and not the camera you carried with you then.

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...at most of this thread. 

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Much smaller?

Either way, I think big cams make you look like a numpty or paparazzi, or both and it aint a good look!

String wrote:

Coming from the Nikon world over to the m43 world has been a nice experience - so many small, fast high quality lenses and image quality has me shooting more than I have in years. I still like to pop over to the Nikon boards once in a while just to keep track of what's happening in that world.

Anyway, a thread caught my attention; something along the line of "taking a trip to Disney Land and taking a D4, what's the best carry around lens?" ????

Seriously, a D4 as a carry around tourist camera? Wow, just wow!

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tedolf wrote:

HatWearingFool wrote:

tedolf wrote:

HatWearingFool wrote:

I don't understand why you find this funny. Personally, I can't understand why people their 'good' cameras and lenses at home when they go on vacation.

Because they weigh a ton and ruin a family vacation where you have to walk around a lot and it is hot.

I'm just pointing out how people view things differently. I've my gear for hours at a time in very hot climates so I understand the discomfort invloved.

Were you carrying a diaper bag as well?

All of my vacations are literally once in a lifetime trips because life is too short to return to the same place twice. Why wouldn't you take your best equipment?

Becuase the other, light weight equipment takes pictures that are indistinguishable, and the extra DOF is highly desirable in "Disneyland" shots.

Are you claiming the output from a D4 is indistinguishable from a m4/3 camera?

For Disneyland snapshots with deep depth of field in bright daylight printed 4 x 6", maybe 8 x10" at most?

Yes-indistinguishable.

Prehaps he/she wants to take photographs that require more than deep depth of field in daylight?

Depth Of Field isn't the only difference between a D4 and m4/3 camera.

I'm in modest shape so I have no problem carrying my gear aound.

Not everyone is.

Also, you are not in as good shape as you think.

I realize I'm not a superstar. I need to lose ~25 pounds. Many people are in much better shape than myself, but I run 5 km (~3 miles) in under 25 minutes 4 days a week and bench my own body weight.

Have you ever been married?

July 10, 2013! Very excited. However, I have been in multi-year relationships before.

Ever have kids?

Do you have any idea what a wife will load you down with if you have a toddler?

I believe I have a pretty good handle on my level of fitness since I hit the gym 5 days a week, and get annual medical check-ups.

We are all impressed.

You're the one who questioned my pyshical conditioning. I didn't go into detail originally because I didn't think it mattered much.


However, I also never take more than I carry on my back all day period. Even when I went to Costa Rica for 3 weeks in the spring everything fit into one backpack that I could shoulder all day.

If you are on a family vacation, you need to carry other stuff on your back, e.g. tired kids!

Doesn't sound like you are every really been on a "family vacation".

I think our ideas of 'family vacation' are just different. Hopefully everyone can agree that shouldn't prompt us to laugh at one another.

We are not laughing at you......just shaking our heads.

Laughter was the word used in the OP.

I just don't understand why it's ok to laugh at person who wishes to travel with a camera that was an expensive investment.

Because they are makeing a foolish spectacle of themselves.

Do you feel better about your choices when you laugh at people who make different choices?

Yes.

Perhaps you should seek out some counsoling. I'm not an expert in mental health but--to me--this beaviour indicates you have some underlying issues that should be resolved.

At this point I concede we'll never see eye-to-eye on this behaviour.

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